Pocket-God wrote:-Mystic Gohan vs Super Janemba
-SSJ4 Vegeta vs Super 17(Post x10 KHH)
-Hirudegarn vs Beerus (1-5%)
-Androids 13, 14, 15 ,16, 17, 18, 19 and 20 vs Cell Junior (Bonus round: If cell jr kills all of them then lets say 13 absorbs all the other androids and becomes Super Ultra 13)
-Majuub vs Buuhan
-1st form Cell(During his 1st fight with piccolo) vs Krillin, Tenshinhan and Yamcha (At their strongest)
-Anime Filler Yamcha vs Perfect Cell
-Fat Buu vs Paikuhan, Tagoma and Dabura
-Tapion vs Super Perfect Cell
-BoZ Krillin and Tenshinhan vs Piccolo (23rd Budokai)
— Gohan puts up a better fight than Goku but still loses. In my book Super Janemba was way up there, just a step short of Gotenks- or Gohan-Boo's power, and nothing in Z less than a Goku-Vegeta Fusion is capable of handling him.
— GT. Pass.
— Who knows? We still haven't been shown or told exactly how much of an advantage Beerus has over Z's strongest folks.
— Individually the Androids get smoked. As for the bonus round, add all the Androids' power together and they might end up an even match for a Cell Junior, I guess.
— GT again, pass.
— The Earthlings stand no chance. Cell's PL is already in the hundreds of millions, whereas even Kuririn and Ten would be lucky to be over 100,000 even at their peaks. Cell can regenerate from Kienzan dismemberment and the Kikoho would just make him uncomfortable.
— Filler Yamcha's power only has any potency against other filler characters. Cell destroys him.
— It's one Super Saiyan 2 level guy, one possibly also Super Saiyan 2 level guy, and one Super Saiyan 1 level guy against Majin Boo, whom even 3 Super Saiyan 2 level guys could not have defeated. Boo cleans house.
— The strength of Tapion himself is a mystery. There's a generic "what an awesome ki" line in Movie 13 when he's first released from the music box. But not only is that super vague, it's also unclear whether that was Tapion's ki or Hirudegarn's. Personally, I don't think Tapion is any stronger than the Saiyans in their base forms, so Cell would annihilate him here.
— Officially they haven't even surpassed King Piccolo yet, so I'm'a say Piccolo Junior is still too much for them too.
ShadowBardock89 wrote:Bio-men (M2) vs. Saibamen
Muten Roshi was able to fight the bio-men surprisingly well, so I'm going to assume they're considerably weaker than Saibaimen on average, and this one gets wrecked.
ThePiccolo wrote:- Piccolo (Android Saga, pre Kami fusion) vs SSJ Trunks (Trunks' saga)
- SSJ Goku (Buu Saga) vs Perfect Cell
- SSJ Vegeta (Buu Saga) vs Paikuhan
- SSJ Trunks (Trunks' Saga) vs 5th form Cooler
- Super Bojack vs Perfect Cell
- SSJ Vegeta (Beginning of Android Saga) vs Future #18
- Hypothetical SSJ Vegeta (Freeza saga, post Zenkai) vs 100% Freeza
- SSJ Gohan (Cell Games) vs LSSJ Broly (Movie 8 )
— Piccolo's become slightly stronger than Trunks was in my view, and is more skilled to boot. He wins.
— If it's Cell's full power, then Goku can't quite win yet. The fight would progress like it did between them at the Cell Games.
— It's tough to place Paikuhan's power, but one way or another he beat Super Perfect Cell. Vegeta can't do that without Super Saiyan 2, so there's a big difference in power output. Paikuhan probably wins.
— Coola fares no better against Trunks than he did against Goku.
— They're evenly matched in power
(unless Cell is "Super Perfect"), but Cell's got a wider repertoire of techniques and that pesky regeneration. I'm going to say he wins.
— I think Vegeta actually has a bit of a power advantage and can win as long as he doesn't let the battle get dragged out.
— Vegeta ends up more or less an equal match for Freeza in power
(2.3-2.5 million x50 = 115-125 million). He's capable of prevailing in a direct fight, but he could win more easily if he just fights evenly until Freeza's power starts to drop. Either way, the odds are in Vegeta's favor.
— Broli is on-par with Cell's full power in my book, and Gohan can't overcome that without Super Saiyan 2. He gets brutalized.
Darkron2151 wrote:SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games) and SSJ Trunks (Cell Games) (Add Piccolo if too one-sided)
Zardoria (Hypothetical Dodoria and Zarbon Potara Fusion) vs. Freeza (True Form 100%)
Paikuhan vs Dabura
Coolza (Hypothetical Cooler and Freeza Fusion Dance) (True Form 100%) vs. SSJ Gogeta (Freeza Arc)
Hypothetical LSSJ3 Broly (Movie 10) vs. Ultimate Gohan (If overkill, change to Evil Buu)
Perfect Cell (Full Power) vs. SSJ Vegetto (Freeza Arc)
— Even with Piccolo helping, the team probably can't quite overcome Goku. Just too much of a power advantage.
— There's such a MASSIVE difference between Zarbon and Dodoria's power levels in the 20,000 range and Freeza's full 120 million that even Potara Fusion doesn't come close to closing the gap. The necessary power increase would put Vegetto's to shame. I don't think these two are particularly well-matched for Fusion anyway, so they wouldn't even come close.
— Dabra would be lucky to have even half as much power as "Super Perfect" Cell, whom Paikuhan easily defeated. The King of the Demon Realm goes down like a bitch.
— Hard to tell... Goku and Vegeta might be too different in power to even do the Fusion Dance. But the same would probably hold true for Freeza and Coola at equivalent transformations. So I'll assume it evens out in both cases, and say that Gogeta wins.
— The way I rationalize SS3 for Broli is that his LSS form is already his substitute for Super Saiyan 2, and his SS3 is one more step above that. So he ends up moderately stronger than SS3 Goku, but that's no match for either Ultimate Gohan or Evil Boo.
— If the Potara are even
half as potent for Goku and Vegeta here as they were in the Boo arc, then Freeza-arc Super Vegetto ends up comfortably above all the Super Saiyan 2s and is more than capable of beating Cell.
apex_pretador wrote:- Nam vs krillin (21st TB)
- Goku 21st TB (ozaru, has control) vs Piccolo, giant form 23rd TB (no knowledge of tail or moon)
- Vegetto (saiyan saga) , can use moon ball and kaioken , vs 50% freeza (no planet destruction)
- Post god water goku vs BoZ yamcha
- Popo vs Tenshinhan (BoZ)
- Moon vs 22nd TB Tenshinhan (one shot allowed only)
- Nail , Monster zarbon, Dodoria , cui , vegeta (post zarbon) , guldo VS recoome , jeece , butter
— I would bet that Kuririn probably isn't hardy enough to withstand Nam's cross-armed finishing move like Goku did. Gonna give this to Nam.
— Depends on how strong Goku was normally during the 21st tournament. If he's got a PL of like 50 then that's 500 as an Oozaru which is too much for Piccolo to handle. Could go either way.
— With the Kaio-Ken x20 Vegetto can put up an admirable fight, but ultimately loses.
— This form of Goku could defeat King Piccolo, and I'm 99.999% certain that Yamcha couldn't. Goku wins.
— My gut says Tenshinhan. Dunno why.
— Uh...
— I'm thinking the team takes this. But Nail's going to end up doing the majority of the fight. Gurd's time-stop and telekinesis will be a big help though.
Zombie wrote:Goku [BoG; No KK or transformations] vs Freeza [Namek; 75% FP].
Champa vs Monaka.
Galbi vs Bear thief.
Shisami vs Zarbon [Monster form]
Sorbet [no ring] vs Roshi
— My numerical estimate for this Goku is 90 million, which is dead even with 75% of Freeza's full 120 million. I'm going to say Goku wins through skill and stamina.
— Dunno, pass.
— Who the heck is Galbi? *Googles* Oh, that cat-alien champion from Super. I guess he wins, since he at least displayed advanced abilities like sensing ki.
— My gut says Zarbon.
— I'm actually thinking Muten Roshi wins. Sorbet seems to be the leader type rather than much of a fighter, while the invincible ol' master's performance against Freeza's army seems to indicate he's improved greatly over the decades since he was an active fighter.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Kaioshin
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Fat Janemba vs. Fat Boo (Pre Split)
- Super Janemba vs. Kid Boo
- SSj Grade 3 Trunks (No Speed Issues) vs. MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Android 18
- SSj Goku (Namek) vs. Mecha Freeza
- Hypothetical SSj2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
— I'm thinking Tagoma is on a Super Saiyan 2 level, while Kaioshin is below the Boo-arc Super Saiyans, and thus would lose. Merged Kaioshin could win, though.
— That said, Tagoma could beat this form of Cell, but it would be a tough fight for him.
— Ginyu-Tagoma would have a very hard time, and only has a small shot at winning.
— Same, except Ginyu-Tagoma's odds are probably a little
better.
— Fat Janemba's a little stronger, but the question is if he's packing any attacks potent enough to totally eradicate Boo and his broken regeneration. Could go either way.
— Evil Janemba was a complete beast who nothing short of a Goku-Vegeta Fusion could deal with. He easily ends Pure Boo.
— Despite how comparatively large his power seemed at the time, this Trunks would be lucky to beat a Cell Junior. The Cell Games' stronger participants are too much for him.
— The two Super Saiyans have a small chance of winning. If it was Trunks or Piccolo instead of either of them that wouldn't be the case. but Goku and Vegeta together make a really good team.
— Goku probably wins, but it's not easy at all.
— Goku can beat full-power Cell, but "Super Perfect" Cell is too much for him.
