The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:51 am

Zombie wrote:Shit I forgot about that. Poison is not allowed then.
They are about the same league in power,but i think Frost wins the majority of this.It was stated that he is the best hand to hand combatant in their team and Cabba doesn't seem to be that tough since he was out of breath just by fighting with Vegeta for a bit.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:58 am

Zombie wrote:Holy hell! I could swear I read 21st Kuririn there. :lol:

New match:

Base Cabba vs Assault form Frost.
Frost breaks him with medium difficulty.
If final form frost is there, he one-shots base cabba, and gets one-shotted by SS Cabba.

Freeza type people are just too good in H2H combat that non-ferocious saiyan fighter like cabba (whose fighting style frost knows) won't stand a chance to win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:04 am

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RandomGuy96 wrote:22nd Budokai Krillin is stronger than the Goku that beat the crap out of Tao and solo'd the RRA headquarters. I'd love to see Videl try to tank a Panzerschreck.
Hell, you could make an argument that Pre-Kame training Kuririn is stronger than Videl or Satan, seeing how he survived gunshots.
I don't think that's really in doubt either. Pre-training Krillin wasn't too far off from Goku, who was obviously way stronger than Videl and Satan. Videl can't lift a car over her head, nor can she kill a bear with one punch, nor can she shrug off a pistol bullet to the head with just a small bruise.
Zombie wrote:Holy hell! I could swear I read 21st Kuririn there. :lol:

New match:

Base Cabba vs Assault form Frost.
Assuming base Goku and Vegeta are basically identical in strength, Frost should take this. He was getting the upper hand on Goku, while Cabba was stated to be equal to Vegeta (which should be apparent from their beam struggle).
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Post by hellobooboo14 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:09 am

Base F. Trunks from movie 9 vs Kid Trunks Pre-RoSat?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:33 am

hellobooboo14 wrote:Base F. Trunks from movie 9 vs Kid Trunks Pre-RoSat?
Assuming you mean BASE kid future trunks, well , M9 just says nothing else on trunks' power except that he's close to Tien, which is more of a high-showing for tien than low showing for trunks.

Since filler humans are exceptionally strong, well, I'd say that pre-RoSaT kid trunks has nothing big on F trunks. They are probably close in power, with a very little advantage to kid trunks, but F trunks has a sword, and the aggression on his side. Can go either way honestly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:23 pm

Indestructible planet, no interference

RoF base gohan Gauntlet (Healed after every match / no zenkai)

- Dr Gero (post absorption)
- Pre-Kami Piccolo
- 100% Freeza
- SS vegeta
- #17
- #16
- Semi-cell
- Cell Jr

M-13 goku SS3 vs SS kid goku GT. If unfair, add mystic gohan to weaker side

Hit vs guldo and Tao Pai Pai - all three have equal power levels

SS4 gotenks (buu arc) VS SS vegetto

SS4 vegetto (BoG) vs SSG goku. If unfair, change it to M13 vegetto

Fat Janemba , Fat buu , SS (pre) gotenks vs kid buu (not srs)

Super Janemba (no sword), Super buu , SS gotenks (post) vs kid buu (100% SRS) and mystic gohan

Super vegeta, Super Trunks, around half goku VS cell jr
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:28 pm

apex_pretador wrote:Indestructible planet, no interference

RoF base gohan Gauntlet (Healed after every match / no zenkai)

- Dr Gero (post absorption)
- Pre-Kami Piccolo
- 100% Freeza
- SS vegeta
- #17
- #16
- Semi-cell
- Cell Jr

M-13 goku SS3 vs SS kid goku GT. If unfair, add mystic gohan to weaker side

Hit vs guldo and Tao Pai Pai - all three have equal power levels

SS4 gotenks (buu arc) VS SS vegetto

SS4 vegetto (BoG) vs SSG goku. If unfair, change it to M13 vegetto

Fat Janemba , Fat buu , SS (pre) gotenks vs kid buu (not srs)

Super Janemba (no sword), Super buu , SS gotenks (post) vs kid buu (100% SRS) and mystic gohan

Super vegeta, Super Trunks, around half goku VS cell jr
- Based on how Piccolo and Gohan matched up to Tagoma, I'd say that Gohan clears the list.
- Kid Goku knocks his older self out in one punch. He then does the same to Gohan.
- Hit's time ability seems much more useful than Gurd's, so I'd say he wins.
- Vegetto would probably need Super Saiyan 2 or 3 to win outright, but I bet he would be able to stall long enough for Gotenks to run out of time.
- SS4 Vegetto is probably strong enough to beat Beerus and Whis, much less Goku.
- Pure Boo is much too strong and much too unpredictable to succumb to the team. I'm not sure what the difference between "not serious" and "serious" is supposed to be.
- Gohan's the strongest guy here, but he's not strong or skilled enough to fend off both Evil Boo and Evil Janemba at once. Pure Boo and Gotenks are too weak to make a difference here.
- The three of them are probably enough to fend off a single Cell Junior without too much trouble.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ThePiccolo » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:37 pm

apex_pretador wrote:Indestructible planet, no interference

RoF base gohan Gauntlet (Healed after every match / no zenkai)

- Dr Gero (post absorption)
- Pre-Kami Piccolo
- 100% Freeza
- SS vegeta
- #17
- #16
- Semi-cell
- Cell Jr
I have Gohan beating Dr. Gero, but failing miserably at Piccolo. A shame, as I believe he would be nearly even against Freeza, and would ultimately win due to Freeza's crappy stamina
apex_pretador wrote:M-13 goku SS3 vs SS kid goku GT. If unfair, add mystic gohan to weaker side

Hit vs guldo and Tao Pai Pai - all three have equal power levels

SS4 gotenks (buu arc) VS SS vegetto

SS4 vegetto (BoG) vs SSG goku. If unfair, change it to M13 vegetto

Fat Janemba , Fat buu , SS (pre) gotenks vs kid buu (not srs)

Super Janemba (no sword), Super buu , SS gotenks (post) vs kid buu (100% SRS) and mystic gohan

Super vegeta, Super Trunks, around half goku VS cell jr
-I don't really subscribe to movie hax, so SSJ GT Kid Goku stomps SSJ3 M-13 Goku and Ultimate Gohan

- Unfortunately, I'm not caught up on DBS yet, so pass

- Gotenks stomps Vegetto

- Vegetto wins here, imo

- My guess is the trio would be able to overwhelm a non serious Pure Boo

- My guess is that Gohan will be absorbed by Evil Boo just like in the series. Then, poor Pure Boo stands no chance against the team, since Gotenks alone is slightly stronger than Pure Boo in my book

- I have the Cell Junior too high for these guys to stand a chance. Their only hope is a Final Flash or an Instant Kamehameha.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:37 pm

apex_pretador wrote:Indestructible planet, no interference

RoF base gohan Gauntlet (Healed after every match / no zenkai)

- Dr Gero (post absorption)
- Pre-Kami Piccolo
- 100% Freeza
- SS vegeta
- #17
- #16
- Semi-cell
- Cell Jr
Gohan doesn't beat anyone.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:59 pm

Hit Vs Champa

SSJ Blue Goku Vs champa

ssj blue vegeta vs champa

Vados+Whis VS SSjblue Goku /SSJ blue Vegeta/Champa/Beerus/Golden Frieza/Hit/SSJ Kabba

Frost-no poison VS Kabba.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:35 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Hit Vs Champa

SSJ Blue Goku Vs champa

ssj blue vegeta vs champa

Vados+Whis VS SSjblue Goku /SSJ blue Vegeta/Champa/Beerus/Golden Frieza/Hit/SSJ Kabba

Frost-no poison VS Kabba.
- I'm fairly certain that Beerus and Champa are still a tier above the non-God character (Super Saiyan Blue included). So Champa wins.
- Same answer as above.
- Whis' "moving without thinking" fighting style seems pretty potent, and assuming Vados can do it too, I'd say they have this one in the bag.
- Assuming this is Super Saiyan Cabba, he wins in one blow.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:44 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Hit Vs Champa

SSJ Blue Goku Vs champa

ssj blue vegeta vs champa

Vados+Whis VS SSjblue Goku /SSJ blue Vegeta/Champa/Beerus/Golden Frieza/Hit/SSJ Kabba

Frost-no poison VS Kabba.
- I'm fairly certain that Beerus and Champa are still a tier above the non-God character (Super Saiyan Blue included). So Champa wins.
- Same answer as above.
- Whis' "moving without thinking" fighting style seems pretty potent, and assuming Vados can do it too, I'd say they have this one in the bag.
- Assuming this is Super Saiyan Cabba, he wins in one blow.

Well Vados knew about the poison and still had him two steps below Kabba pre ssj, so even without ssj I say Kabba wins, seeing as Champa<beerus and goku and vegeta are still very very close to beerus I say there's a good chance either would win. I bank on the both myself.

Vados and whis lose IMO. I mean if goku+vegeta>beerus I think this group together would manage a win. Wouldn't be a cake walk but it'd happen.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bansho64 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:41 pm

SS Goku (GT) vs Super Boo

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Post by Analytic » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:29 pm

Bansho64 wrote:SS Goku (GT) vs Super Boo
As long as this is Goku after his travels in space, he could easily defeat Boo in base, let alone Super Saiyan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:19 pm

I have new ones.

Buu absorbed (most of team universe 6, except for hit) vs ssj blue Goku?

Hit and frieza porta fusion vs Ssjblue vegito?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:31 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:I have new ones.

Buu absorbed (most of team universe 6, except for hit) vs ssj blue Goku?

Hit and frieza porta fusion vs Ssjblue vegito?
- SSJB Goku slaughters Boo. I don't have any of the U6 fighters on the 6-10-15 scale of God tier character.
- SSJB Vegetto finger flicks

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:45 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:I have new ones.

Buu absorbed (most of team universe 6, except for hit) vs ssj blue Goku?

Hit and frieza porta fusion vs Ssjblue vegito?
- Except for Hit, I don't think any of the U6 fighters are on the God Scale that Goku and Vegeta are on. Adding their powers to Boo's doesn't change that.
- My general rule for Potara is that the power boost is based on a lot of different variables, such as similarity in power, race, personal relationship, etc. That said, I don't think Hit and Freeza would make an optimal pairing for fusion. They'd probably get a decent boost (like 2x or 5x or something like that), but their power would be hilariously low in comparison to the sheer absurdity that a Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto would be.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:43 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:Indestructible planet, no interference

RoF base gohan Gauntlet (Healed after every match / no zenkai)

- Dr Gero (post absorption)
- Pre-Kami Piccolo
- 100% Freeza
- SS vegeta
- #17
- #16
- Semi-cell
- Cell Jr
Gohan doesn't beat anyone.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:32 pm

Hit vs Beerus (with no knowledge of his ability). Let's be real here, Beerus didn't figure out Hit's ability, only Goku and Whis did. Perhaps in a fight, Hit would be capable of taking him on.

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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:09 am

Doctor. wrote:Hit vs Beerus (with no knowledge of his ability). Let's be real here, Beerus didn't figure out Hit's ability, only Goku and Whis did. Perhaps in a fight, Hit would be capable of taking him on.
Hit has a really good chance to win but I still going to give this to Beerus.

New matches:

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc].
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc].
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin.
Magetta vs Buuhan.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc].

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