The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 20941
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:24 pm

Grimlock wrote:In a 1 x 1 battle, Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs:

Botamo.
Frost.
Magetta.
Cabba.
Future Trunks slaughters all of them.

User avatar
Darkron2151
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 467
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:04 pm

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkron2151 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:39 pm

Grimlock wrote:In a 1 x 1 battle, Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs:

Botamo.
Frost.
Magetta.
Cabba.
I assume the battles take place within the same tournament-style setting? If so:
  • 1. Trunks is probably fast and strong enough to throw Botamo out of the ring without him even noticing what happened.
    2. He beats Frost before he can transform since Trunks =/= Goku (not that it would make a difference, but it's just Trunks' style).
    3. Don't know if Trunks is the kind of guy that'll insult Magetta, so not gonna play that card. Even then, I'm sure Trunks is at a level of power now that he can fire a big enough blast to ring the big guy out.
    4. Pretty much what happened with SSB Vegeta vs. SSJ Cabba, except with Future Trunks.

User avatar
apex_pretador
I Live Here
Posts: 2074
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:17 pm

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:18 am

Krillin1994 wrote:Super Perfect Cell vs Future Trunks.

Kid buu vs Future Trunks

Hatchiyak vs Future Trunks

Tagoma (Ginyu) vs Future Trunks
Current future trunks one-shots them all, except kid buu, who might blow up the planet if trunks doesn't immediately kill him.

Darkron2151 wrote:DB Super Manga Matchups:
  • Hit (Full Power) vs. Golden Freeza

    Freeza (True Form/100%) (ROF) vs. Frost (1st Form)

    Base Vegeta (ROF) vs. Base Cabba

    Piccolo (U6 Tournament) vs. Freeza (True Form/100%) (ROF)

    SSJ3 Goku (U6 Tournament) vs. SSGSS Vegeta (10% Power)
Hit easily

Now way to tell, freeza never went 100% in anime, & manga never showed freeza fight.

Vegeta curbstomps

No way to tell

Goku
In Brightest Day wrote:Fights!

- Aka vs. Future Trunks (base, vs. Imperfect Cell).
- SSJ Cabba vs. SSJ Future Trunks (Super).
- Cyborg Tao vs. Chi-Chi, Master Roshi and Chaozu (23rd Budokai).
- Imperfect Cell (pre humans absorbed) vs. SSJ Future Trunks (Android arc) and SSJ Future Son Gohan.
- Drum vs. Tenshinhan and Yajirobe (Daimao arc).
- Son Goku (arrival on Namek, no Kaioken) vs. Krillin (vs. Freeza).
- Kaioshin vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Red Ribbon Army vs. Yamcha (22nd Budokai).
- Aka stomps. Current future trunks will one shot.

- Trunks

- Tao one-shots chiaotzu then beats ChiChi & Roshi with little trouble. If Roshi goes buff form, he solos.

- Cell absorbs their bodies.

- Drum stomps.

- Goku one-shots.

- Piccolo stomps because I don't buy into Kaioshin > Piccolo thing, because kaioshin's ki can't be sensed.

Yamcha gets tired, trips over a rock & dies.
My dragon ball respect threads
Respect Piccolo
Respect Tao Pai Pai
Respect Freeza

User avatar
MaxZ
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 331
Joined: Sat May 14, 2016 2:52 am
Location: Saskatchewan
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MaxZ » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:16 am

Grimlock wrote:In a 1 x 1 battle, Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs:

Botamo.
Frost.
Magetta.
Cabba.
absolutely zero chance against any of them, Trunks is only Dabura level.

well, maybe he could ring out Botamo the way Goku did.

User avatar
Khin
I Live Here
Posts: 2540
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:33 am
Location: West City
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:30 pm

Captain Space wrote:Oh...uh...er...
Captain Space wrote:Ah, curse my Toriyama-level memory XD
Oh. I thought you're only referring to my first quote on that one. And thought you're only referring to my second quote in your second sentence.
Krillin1994 wrote:Super Perfect Cell vs Future Trunks.
Kid buu vs Future Trunks
Hatchiyak vs Future Trunks
Tagoma (Ginyu) vs Future Trunks

current Future Trunks from Super
- Given how Copy-Vegeta (Who is equal to Base Vegeta) was able to stomp SSj3 Gotenks. Trunks, especially with Super Saiyan 2 would slaughter all these guys.
Darkron2151 wrote:DB Super Manga Matchups:

Hit (Full Power) vs. Golden Freeza
Freeza (True Form/100%) (ROF) vs. Frost (1st Form)
Base Vegeta (ROF) vs. Base Cabba
Piccolo (U6 Tournament) vs. Freeza (True Form/100%) (ROF)
SSJ3 Goku (U6 Tournament) vs. SSGSS Vegeta (10% Power)
- Without the tournament rules, Hit would be able to use his killing attacks freely and would kill Freeza. Given how he was implied to be able to do the same to Goku had he use his unseen killing techniques on the tournament. With the tournament rules, Freeza would destroy Hit. I personally have Champa Arc SSjB Goku as equal to Golden Freeza,(Assuming the unseen manga Golden Freeza is as strong as his movie and Super Anime counterpart) and Hit was getting decked by SSjB Goku.
In Brightest Day wrote:Fights!

- Aka vs. Future Trunks (base, vs. Imperfect Cell).
- SSJ Cabba vs. SSJ Future Trunks (Super).
- Imperfect Cell (pre humans absorbed) vs. SSJ Future Trunks (Android arc) and SSJ Future Son Gohan.
- Son Goku (arrival on Namek, no Kaioken) vs. Krillin (vs. Freeza).
- Kaioshin vs. Piccolo (ROF).
- Future Trunks needs Super Saiyan, otherwise he gets stomped.
- Both was shown to be inferior to Goku and Vegeta. They are probably equals, but Future Trunks got this in the bag.
- Trunks and Gohan dies a horrible death. Cell was implied to be superior to SSj Vegeta at that point,
- I'd like to put Kuririn at that time at around 150,000. So unless Goku can use Kaiou-ken, he gets destroyed by his best friend.
- Piccolo definitely improved since the last time they met. They are probably in the same league now, with Piccolo winning due to skills and experience.
Grimlock wrote:In a 1 x 1 battle, Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs:

Botamo.
Frost.
Magetta.
Cabba
.
Assuming you mean a Tournament match then...

- I think Trunks is smart enough to be able to find a way to beat Botamo.
- Trunks likely wouldn't fuck around unlike Goku. He'll punch Frost out of the ring before Frost can use his other forms and poison shenanigans.
- I don't think Trunks is a type of a guy who will insult someone, especially in a friendly tournament. So he'd likely going to pull a manga-Vegeta and destroy the ring in order to win.
- Trunks one shots.

User avatar
In Brightest Day
OMG CRAZY REG
Posts: 777
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:49 pm
Location: New Zealand

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:19 am

Mr. Lao (Cell arc filler) runs the gauntlet :

1. Videl (25th Budokai).
2. Spopovich.
3. Son Goku (first appearance).
4. Nam.
5. Jackie Chun (21st Budokai).
6. Grandpa Gohan.
7. Chaozu (23rd Budokai).
8. Tenshinhan (Daimao arc).
9. Drum.
10. King Piccolo (young).


Cyborg Tao didn't one shot Lao. Assuming Tao hasn't improved since the 23rd Budokai, how far would Lao get?

User avatar
DanielSSJ
I'm pretty cozy, here...
Posts: 1623
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:13 am
Location: Florida
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:55 am

In Brightest Day wrote:Mr. Lao (Cell arc filler) runs the gauntlet :

1. Videl (25th Budokai).
2. Spopovich.
3. Son Goku (first appearance).
4. Nam.
5. Jackie Chun (21st Budokai).
6. Grandpa Gohan.
7. Chaozu (23rd Budokai).
8. Tenshinhan (Daimao arc).
9. Drum.
10. King Piccolo (young).


Cyborg Tao didn't one shot Lao. Assuming Tao hasn't improved since the 23rd Budokai, how far would Lao get?
Even if it wasn't an OHKO, Tao Pai Pai still curb-stomped the old man with ease. He somehow knew about Goku and how powerful he was, but displays no real talent beyond normal martial arts. I'm thinkin' he only gets up to Namu, though Spopovich should be a lot higher on that list.

Rebel_Yeh
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 64
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:49 am

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rebel_Yeh » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:10 am

Super Shenron (yes, that enormous golden dragon) vs. Beerus. Who is more powerful?

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 20941
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:35 am

Rebel_Yeh wrote:Super Shenron (yes, that enormous golden dragon) vs. Beerus. Who is more powerful?
Super Shenron has the power to grant any kind of wish. There are no limitations to what he can't do. He wins by default.

Rebel_Yeh
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 64
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:49 am

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rebel_Yeh » Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:28 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Rebel_Yeh wrote:Super Shenron (yes, that enormous golden dragon) vs. Beerus. Who is more powerful?
Super Shenron has the power to grant any kind of wish. There are no limitations to what he can't do. He wins by default.
Ok. Zalama and Super Shenron are probably the same strength. They're probably stronger than Whis, and Beerus (as you have just noted), but weaker than Omni-King.

User avatar
fadeddreams5
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5137
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:53 pm
Location: New York

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:42 am

Baby Pan vs. Baby Broly

Super Saiyan 4 Blue Gogeta vs. Buu (w/ Beerus, Golden Frieza, and Hit absorbed)
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super

Spencer_23
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 77
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:16 pm

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Spencer_23 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:19 pm

Omega vs Beerus?

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 20941
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:15 pm

Spencer_23 wrote:Omega vs Beerus?
Beerus wins with ease. Beerus has just got way more feats backing up his strength.

User avatar
Saiyan007
Regular
Posts: 653
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:14 pm

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiyan007 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:29 pm

Spencer_23 wrote:Omega vs Beerus?

Beerus wins with ease(I mean flick of the wrist ease) he has better feats and statements that put shenron and the entirety of the GT cast to shame

GT vs the Gods in Super is always going to be a stomp for the Gods

User avatar
GodVegetto91
I Live Here
Posts: 2098
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:49 pm

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GodVegetto91 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:58 pm

Fused Beerus & Whis Vs "1" of Omni-King's attendants.
Who wins?
“The fool looks to God outside him. The wise understands that God is within him.”

User avatar
The Monkey King
OMG CRAZY REG
Posts: 907
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:53 am

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The Monkey King » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:51 am

Hypothetical Namek saga SSJ Vegeta vs King Cold
garfield15 wrote:"Now Goku, we shall have our Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Movie 14, now available on DVD and blu-ray!"
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww11 ... wesome.gif

User avatar
DanielSSJ
I'm pretty cozy, here...
Posts: 1623
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:13 am
Location: Florida
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:33 pm

The Monkey King wrote:Hypothetical Namek saga SSJ Vegeta vs King Cold
Base on my made-up numbers, Super Saiyan Vegeta would've ended up exactly as strong as 100% Freeza, minus the stamina issues. King Cold has been described as being inferior to Freeza in power, so Vegeta would take the cake.

User avatar
Steven Bloodriver
I Live Here
Posts: 2875
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 pm

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:34 pm

1) What if Future Gohan had survived his final battle against the Androids of his time and was able to earn a Zenkai before training with (a now also Super Saiyan) Future Trunks for three years? Would they have become strong enough to defeat Future Android 17 and 18?

User avatar
DanielSSJ
I'm pretty cozy, here...
Posts: 1623
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:13 am
Location: Florida
Contact:

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:36 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) What if Future Gohan had survived his final battle against the Androids of his time and was able to earn a Zenkai before training with (a now also Super Saiyan) Future Trunks for three years? Would they have become strong enough to defeat Future Android 17 and 18?
Probably. In my opinion, the main reason why Gohan didn't get that strong in the last 20-ish years is that he didn't have any good sparring partners. If Gohan had lived to see Trunks get stronger, they probably would've taken out the Androids eventually. They probably would've fallen to Cell a few years later though.

User avatar
Hugo Boss
I Live Here
Posts: 3387
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:04 pm
Location: Brazil

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:47 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:Fused Beerus & Whis Vs "1" of Omni-King's attendants.
Who wins?
I don't have any way to tell. The Omni-King's attendants' strength is a mystery. A fused Beerus & Whis seems too over the top, though.
The Monkey King wrote:Hypothetical Namek saga SSJ Vegeta vs King Cold
I believe Vegeta's powerlevel could be at anywhere between 50,000,000~150,000,000, probably less than Freeza, and King Cold is somewhat weaker than Freeza, whose powerlevel is at 120,000,000. So.. I bet Vegeta would win after difficult fight.
Steven Bloodriver wrote:What if Future Gohan had survived his final battle against the Androids of his time and was able to earn a Zenkai before training with (a now also Super Saiyan) Future Trunks for three years? Would they have become strong enough to defeat Future Android 17 and 18?
Hmm, if Goku and Gohan were able to get much stronger in the present, then why not? Two years would probably be enough.

Post Reply