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cantwaitanymore wrote:HAHAHHAHAHAHA, its actually hilarious how wrong you are, obviously you are an anime only watcher
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cantwaitanymore wrote:HAHAHHAHAHAHA, its actually hilarious how wrong you are, obviously you are an anime only watcher
cantwaitanymore wrote:dude keep walking, you are getting annoying
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Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:59 pm

-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?

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Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:07 pm

Piccolo (M2) vs Krillin, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (M3)
Goku (M2) vs Krillin, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (M3)
Goku (M2, with kaioken X2 only) vs Turles' Henchmen
Goku (M2, without kaioken) vs Gohan (M3)

Bear in mind that M2 Piccolo, while possessed, gave M2 Goku a good fight. And the power levels from them according to the M3 Movie Pamphlet were 8.2K for Piccolo and 10K for Goku, which I assume are from their M2 counterparts. The earthlings, meanwhile, were defeated by Turles' men, who were ranked between 7.6K and 9K by the same Movie Pamphlet. Let's also remember that Turles' men as a group managed to fight equally against M3 Goku, who has a power level of 30K, and needed Kaioken to stomp them.

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Berserker1921 wrote:-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?
Moro,vegeta via oozaru, gaelico jr,of it's base hit copy Vegeta wins,dyspo,god toppo,ssbkk10 goku (top), suppressed jiren, jiren 70% and god toppo wins this
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Post by ruler9871 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:02 pm

1. Enraged Base Broly vs Aniraza
2. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Present Zamasu
3. Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Buuhan
4. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
5. SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Normal SSB Goku (U6 arc)

And who is the strongest ToP contestant that SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power) could beat?
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ruler9871 wrote:1. Enraged Base Broly vs Aniraza
2. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Present Zamasu
3. Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Buuhan
4. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
5. SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Normal SSB Goku (U6 arc)

And who is the strongest ToP contestant that SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power) could beat?
R1: of it's broly using his oozaru power, I can give him the win
R2: freezer, counting that at tdp he was god tier in his final form and that present zamasu got stomped by ssj2 goku. Same if it is a manga versus, cause in the manga the only thing present zamasu has shown is to be stronger than kibito, who's inferior to shin who's weaker than base tdp manga goku, who's equal to final form freezer in power.
R3: enraged Vegeta disintegrates buuhan recklessly
R4: dabura spits
R5: ssg goku stomps hard
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Post by dragonball0900 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:58 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?
1. Pass, since I hadn't seen that yet.

2. Dr Wheelo wins easily against normal Vegeta. But if Vegeta turns Oozaru, he stomps.

3. I would say that it would be a close fight, but Frieza would win, probably in the same way Piccolo would if he was at full power (which he couldn't because of Kami).

4. Hit fought against SSJB Kaioken X20 Goku with his special techniques. SSJB Vegeta, despite being stronger than his U6 self, is still no match for that kind of fights.

5. Dyspo with his speed, obviously. He put trouble to SSJB tier fighters.

6. Gogeta Blue wins in my opinion. He's probably just a bit below Blue Vegito, who is stronger than God Toppo in my opinion.

7. I don't know Sidra's strength, but he probably wins.

8. Suppressed Jiren obviously wins since Suppressed Beerus was only comparable to SSJ God Goku.

9. I have a feeling that Champa's got this one probably. We don't know how strong is Jiren in comparison to the Gods of Destruction, other than him being stronger.

10. Corrupted Merged Zamasu's got this, since he managed to fight and hold his own against SSJB Vegito, something that I don't think God Toppo is able to do.

ruler9871 wrote:1. Enraged Base Broly vs Aniraza
2. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Present Zamasu
3. Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Buuhan
4. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
5. SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Normal SSB Goku (U6 arc)

And who is the strongest ToP contestant that SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power) could beat?
1. Aniraza was too much for even Goku, Vegeta and Frieza together (with Gohan and Android 17's help). Enraged Base Broly was a bit below SSJB Goku (even though Goku got stronger after the TOP). I still think that Aniraza would win.

2. Present Zamasu was only comparable to SSJ2 Goku. Final Form Frieza managed to be at SSJ God tier since ROF. I would say he wins.

3. Enraged Vegeta easily wins since he was portrayed as being the strongest being that was able to damage Beerus at that point. Even stronger than Ultimate Gohan and by a lot.

4. Krillin is officially stated to be below SSJ Goten and Trunks. Dabura is stronger than them. He is, therefore, miles above Krillin.

5. SSJB Goku in my opinion. Their powers are close but not by much. Goku as blue would eventually win still.

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RecolorSaiyan wrote:SSJ Gogeta vs SSJ2 Kefla?

SSJ Broly vs Vegito Blue (anime FT arc)

Wrathful Broly vs Base Kefla?
Kefla murders him in seconds.
Vegetto one shots. Broly needs his FPSS form to beat him.
Base Kefla was weaker than SSB Goku so she loses.
Berserker1921 wrote:-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?
Boo.
I think Vegeta is weaker but can always turn Oozaru.
I have them close but it doesn't matter since Garlic Jr wins by immotality.
Goku needed Kaioken to survive Hit so I can't see Commeson Vegeta winning this.
Dyspo eventually wins thanks to his speed.
Gogeta would be on par with Beerus. Toppo loses easily.
Sidra finger flicks.
Jiren has this easily.
Champa beats him to a pulp.
Zamasu one shots him.
ruler9871 wrote:1. Enraged Base Broly vs Aniraza
2. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Present Zamasu
3. Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Buuhan
4. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
5. SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Normal SSB Goku (U6 arc)

And who is the strongest ToP contestant that SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power) could beat?
Aniraza eats him.
Zamasu one shots.
Boo wins easily.
Dabura turns him into stone instantly.
SSB Goku finger flicks.

If Broly's SS form is a 50 times boost of his Ikari form then no one but Jiren, SSBE Vegeta [Rage boost], SS2 Kefla and GoD Toppo can stand a chance against him.

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Post by PFM18 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:58 am

RecolorSaiyan wrote:SSJ Gogeta vs SSJ2 Kefla?

SSJ Broly vs Vegito Blue (anime FT arc)

Wrathful Broly vs Base Kefla?
Gogeta one shots
Not sure about normal SSJ Broly, but his FPSSJ/LSSJ version would one shot.
Ikari Broly wins easily
Berserker1921 wrote:-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?
Moro
Vegeta
Freeza
Hit dominates
Dyspo one shots
not sure what this one is asking? Hypothetical Gogeta Blue from the Black arc?
Sidra one shots
Jiren one shots. That gap is unfathomably large.
Champa? I don't know, not sure.
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Base Vegito(Buu Saga) vs Super Buu

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Post by p-hyvo » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:53 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Base Vegito(Buu Saga) vs Super Buu
Vegetto rapes. he wasn't all that, weaker than buuhan in the manga, and even stringer than buuhan in the anime
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RecolorSaiyan wrote:SSJ Gogeta vs SSJ2 Kefla?

SSJ Broly vs Vegito Blue (anime FT arc)

Wrathful Broly vs Base Kefla?
1. It would be a good fight, it could go either way. I'll go with Kefla though.

2. Vegito Blue stomps easily. SSJ Broly is below SSJ Gogeta. Even if FT Vegito is weaker, it's still too much wide of a gap.

3. Wrathful Broly was above SSJ God Goku. Base Kefla was only above a weaker and tired SSJ God Goku. She could've been equal to him for all we know. Wrathful Broly wins then.
AvatarReiko wrote:Base Vegito(Buu Saga) vs Super Buu
Base Vegito wins. Not only he is way above SSJ3 Goku, but I also believe in the anime only fight that Vegito had with Buuhan, which means that Vegito's got this easily.

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Berserker1921 wrote:-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?
- I'm one of the few people who think current Ssjs are NOT God tier, but I highly doubt Moro, even in his worst state, is weaker than Buuhan.
- Pretty even match, I reckon they'd stalemate each other until Vegeta becomes Oozaru, and then it's bye bye for Wheelo.
- Freeza, easily.
- Hit's techniques wouldn't work on him, he needs to break the core or whatever that thing was to win. I reckon he could do that.
- Dyspo.
- Toppo destroys him.
- Sidra.
- That Jiren was confirmed to be stronger than Merged Zamasu (according to Shin) and Belmod (according to Whis). Beerus goes down immediately.
- I think 65% of Jiren's power would be enough to beat Champa.
- Hakai. :mrgreen:
ruler9871 wrote:1. Enraged Base Broly vs Aniraza
2. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Present Zamasu
3. Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Buuhan
4. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
5. SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Normal SSB Goku (U6 arc)

And who is the strongest ToP contestant that SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power) could beat?
- Aniraza, with some difficulty.
- This was already done, Freeza tortures him effortlessly.
- If Vegeta lasts enough, Buuhan is fodder compared to him.
- Dabura easy.
- SsjB > SsjG ALWAYS (unless it's the manga, but it doesn't count).

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-New fights-

1. Moro (now) vs Buuhan?
2. Dr Wheelo vs Vegeta (saiyan saga)?
3. Garlic Jr (GJ saga) vs Third Form Frieza (namek)?
4. Ssjblue Copy Vegeta vs Hit (U6)? (No absorbing)
5. Dyspo vs Ssjgod Goku (BoG)?
6. Gogeta Blue (Black) vs GoD Toppo?
7. Sidra vs Ssjblue kkx10 Goku (ToP)?
8. Suppressed Jiren (109) vs suppressed Beerus (BoG)?
9. Jiren (70%) vs Champa?
10. GoD Toppo vs Corrupted M. Zamasu (no immortality)?
1. Haven't seen it yet;
2. Vegeta, and I don't think he would need to transform;
3. Tough fight, but ignoring the immortality thing I believe Freeza would still win;
4. Hit, since I'm not expecting Vegeta figuring him out yet and he'd use his assassination techniques;
5. Close call, but I'd still bet on Goku;
6. Gogeta, easily;
7. I give this one to Goku, Sidra is probably the least strong GoD;
8. Pass;
9. Possibly Jiren, but I think Champa would force him to use his full strength or close to that;
10. Toppo would be a good challenge but I think Fused Zamasu would win.
Piccolo (M2) vs Krillin, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (M3)
Goku (M2) vs Krillin, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (M3)
Goku (M2, with kaioken X2 only) vs Turles' Henchmen
Goku (M2, without kaioken) vs Gohan (M3)
1. Teaming up, the earthlings would probably beat Piccolo;
2. Goku would win and wouldn't need kk, maybe x2 at best;
3. Goku would one or two of them, but simultaneously they would be too much;
4. I think M2 Goku is about the same as his Saiyan arc counterpart and M3 Gohan was stated to have a BP of 10k - powerwise Gohan is stronger but maybe Goku would end up winning through skill.
1. Enraged Base Broly vs Aniraza
2. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Present Zamasu
3. Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Buuhan
4. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
5. SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Normal SSB Goku (U6 arc
1. Aniraza, easily;
2. Freeza, since he appears to have gotten significantly stronger in his final/normal form since after RoF;
3. Buuhan would still win;
4. Dabura, easily;
5. SSB Goku wins in my opinion but it would be close.
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Post by dragonball0900 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:01 pm

Here are other versus from Z.

Saiyan Arc Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu vs King Kai
Nappa (serious against Goku) vs M3 Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu
Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs Saiyan Arc Vegeta
Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs M3 Piccolo
M3 Piccolo, Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs Namek Arc Vegeta (24K)

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dragonball0900 wrote:Here are other versus from Z.

Saiyan Arc Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu vs King Kai
Nappa (serious against Goku) vs M3 Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu
Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs Saiyan Arc Vegeta
Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs M3 Piccolo
M3 Piccolo, Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs Namek Arc Vegeta (24K)
R1: king kai via kaioken
R2: m3 z fighters
R3: together they can,manage something and maybe win
R4: same answer as upper
R5: piccolo, Gohan and crillin can manage something
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Post by Rubens » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:40 am

Saiyan Arc Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu vs King Kai
Nappa (serious against Goku) vs M3 Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu
Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs Saiyan Arc Vegeta
Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs M3 Piccolo
M3 Piccolo, Namek Arc Gohan and Krillin (Post Guru) vs Namek Arc Vegeta (24K)
1. Kaio would easily beat the earthlings but not Piccolo who I think would beat him, unless Kaio is really capable of using the kaio-ken;
2. M3 earthlings seemed stronger than their saiyan arc counterparts, yet I still think Nappa could beat them but not easily;
3. Gohan and Krillin's battle power was over 10,000 and later they held their own against Ginyu in Goku's body (23k) - that plus Gohan's rage boost, I think they would beat Vegeta, unless the latter transformed into a great ape;
4. M3 Piccolo was 18k if I remember correctly, so it's the same as with saiyan arc Vegeta;
5. Tough call, but I guess Vegeta would come out victorious, depending on how he managed Gohan's rage boost;
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Post by AvatarReiko » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:32 am

Base Gotenks(Pre) vs SSJ2 Goku & SSJ2 Vegeta (Buu ARc)
SSJ Gogeta vs SSBKKx20 Goku & SBE Vegeta

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