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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJgogeto » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:25 pm

Base Broly vs SSJ2 Gohan(ToP) and SSJ2 Cabba(ToP) - Broly
Ikari Broly vs Ultimate Gohan(ToP) - Gohan
Ikari Broly vs Android 17(ToP) - 17
SSJ1 Broly vs Hakai Toppo - Toppo

SSB Goku (Late Namek Arc) vs SSG Goku (BoG) - SSB Goku
SSG Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSB Copy-Vegeta - Copy-Vegeta
SSJ3 Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs Fat Buu (Buu arc) - Fat Buu
SSJ1 Goku (Start of BoG) vs Super Perfect Cell - Cell
Krillin & Tien (both Cell Games) vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (both End of Namek arc) - Goku & Vegeta, unless Tien uses Shin Kikoho
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs SSG Goku (End of ToP) - Gohan
Android 17 (ToP) vs Ikari Broly - 17
SSJ1 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs God Toppo - Toppo
SSJ1 Kefla vs SSBKKx20 Goku (when he fought her, full stamina) & SSB Vegeta (ep.122) - Goku & Vegeta
Piccolo (Buu arc) vs Semi-Perfect Cell & Android 16 - Cell & 16, probably

Piccolo(Top) vs Android 18(Top) - Piccolo
Piccolo(Top) vs Skinny Buu(Pre-Top) - Piccolo
Piccolo(RoF) vs Kibitoshin - Kibitoshin

Base Vegito (Early ToP) vs Golden Freeza (ToP) - Freeza
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games) - Gotenks
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Android 18 & Piccolo (both ToP) - 18 & Piccolo
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc) - Goku
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc) - Vegeta
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG) - Trunks
SSJ1 Kale vs SSJ2 Future Trunks (end of Black arc) - Trunks
Base Vegito (Saiyan arc) vs 100% Freeza (Namek arc) - Vegetto
Base Gotenks (Buu arc post-Rosat) vs Piccolo (BoG) - Gotenks
SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragon arc) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc) - Vegeta

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:49 pm

ruler9871 wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:
ruler9871 wrote:Base Vegito (Early ToP) vs Golden Freeza (ToP)
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Android 18 & Piccolo (both ToP)
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc)
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc)
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG)
SSJ1 Kale vs SSJ2 Future Trunks (end of Black arc)
Base Vegito (Saiyan arc) vs 100% Freeza (Namek arc)
Base Gotenks (Buu arc post-Rosat) vs Piccolo (BoG)
SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragon arc) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
- Freeza.
- I really haven't got a clue about this one.
- Okay, this might be Jiren's weaker state, but he was still holding his own against three opponents who're much stronger than Piccolo and 18. He wins.
- Pass.
- Pass.
- Pass.
- Kefla brutally stomps.
- Pass.
- Same as number 2.
- Vegeta, probably.
Its says Kale, not Kefla.
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As for the fight, I think Trunks would win.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:43 pm

1. SSJ3 Goku (RoF) vs Present Zamasu
2. MUI Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
3. Future 17 & 18 vs SSJ2 Future Gohan (both arms)
4. SSJ3 Vegito (End of ToP) vs SSJ2 Kefla
5. Android 17 (ToP) vs Full Speed Dyspo
6. SSJ1 Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ1 Goten & SSJ1 Present Trunks (Buu arc)
7. Android 18 (Post-Ribranne fight) vs Present Zamasu
8. Team U7's Bottom 5 (no Mafuba) vs SSJ2 Cabba & Frost (both ToP)
9. Ikari Broly vs Hit (ToP)
10. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:47 am

[quote="ruler9871"
1. SSJ3 Goku (RoF) vs Present Zamasu
2. MUI Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
3. Future 17 & 18 vs SSJ2 Future Gohan (both arms)
4. SSJ3 Vegito (End of ToP) vs SSJ2 Kefla
5. Android 17 (ToP) vs Full Speed Dyspo
6. SSJ1 Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ1 Goten & SSJ1 Present Trunks (Buu arc)
7. Android 18 (Post-Ribranne fight) vs Present Zamasu
8. Team U7's Bottom 5 (no Mafuba) vs SSJ2 Cabba & Frost (both ToP)
9. Ikari Broly vs Hit (ToP)
10. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura[/quote]


R1 goku
R2 no idea
R3 mhh, future gohan never made them use more than 50%, considering that he would be around their 40%. With both arms he goes to 80%,ssj2 is 160% of a singular Android.
So, they together Conan fight back , but if he catches em by surprise he wins
R4 I'd say Kerala, brutally. Ssj3 vegetto isn't omen tier, Kerala ssj2 is
R5 dyspo if 17 do not manage to caught him in one of his barrier balls
R6 goku is individually stronger, but the kids together can give him problems. Still goku wins via experience
R8 power level wise, I'd say frost and maybe at this point, but if you count piccolo as one of the bottom 5, then u7 wins. At the top, piccolo > > frost
R9 broly smashes
R10 still dabra. I tend to have him around 18(z) tier at the top
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJgogeto » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:55 am

1. SSJ3 Goku (RoF) vs Present Zamasu - Goku
2. MUI Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly) - Black
3. Future 17 & 18 vs SSJ2 Future Gohan (both arms) - 17 & 18
4. SSJ3 Vegito (End of ToP) vs SSJ2 Kefla - Kefla
5. Android 17 (ToP) vs Full Speed Dyspo - 17
6. SSJ1 Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ1 Goten & SSJ1 Present Trunks (Buu arc) - Goku
7. Android 18 (Post-Ribranne fight) vs Present Zamasu - Zamasu
8. Team U7's Bottom 5 (no Mafuba) vs SSJ2 Cabba & Frost (both ToP) - Team U7's Bottom 5
9. Ikari Broly vs Hit (ToP) - Hit
10. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura - Dabura

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:06 pm

ruler9871 wrote:1. SSJ3 Goku (RoF) vs Present Zamasu
2. MUI Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
3. Future 17 & 18 vs SSJ2 Future Gohan (both arms)
4. SSJ3 Vegito (End of ToP) vs SSJ2 Kefla
5. Android 17 (ToP) vs Full Speed Dyspo
6. SSJ1 Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ1 Goten & SSJ1 Present Trunks (Buu arc)
7. Android 18 (Post-Ribranne fight) vs Present Zamasu
8. Team U7's Bottom 5 (no Mafuba) vs SSJ2 Cabba & Frost (both ToP)
9. Ikari Broly vs Hit (ToP)
10. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
- Present Zamasu barely held his own against a Ssj2, he has no chance of winning against Ssj3.
- MUI >> fusions. And Black wouldn't even need the scythe at all.
- Gohan utterly stomps them.
- This is soooo hard I won't even answer.
- I already answered to this: 17 wins, because plot made him perform great against a full powered Jiren.
- Goku oneshots them both.
- Since 18 had trouble with Ribrianne, who shouldn't be stronger than Base Goku/Vegeta (and if she is, by a small margin), I assume Zamasu would win easily.
- Cabba's presence makes this a little bit hard for the U7 team, because the humans, without Mafuuba, are literally worthless. 18 and Piccolo could certainly beat Frost, but Cabba? I don't know. U6's duo takes it.
- Hit is now a total jobber, he even forgot to use his assassin techniques or his Cage of Time against Zamasu, Hearts and the Tuffles. Those two techniques could make him win against Broly, but since Toei now portraits him as a dumb dude who only uses his Time-Skip (that doesn't even work on anyone no more), he loses badly.
- Please mate, it's not the first time you put humans against Cell-tier characters, why do you hate them so much? :mrgreen:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rubens » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:11 pm

1. SSJ3 Goku (RoF) vs Present Zamasu
2. MUI Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
3. Future 17 & 18 vs SSJ2 Future Gohan (both arms)
4. SSJ3 Vegito (End of ToP) vs SSJ2 Kefla
5. Android 17 (ToP) vs Full Speed Dyspo
6. SSJ1 Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ1 Goten & SSJ1 Present Trunks (Buu arc)
7. Android 18 (Post-Ribranne fight) vs Present Zamasu
8. Team U7's Bottom 5 (no Mafuba) vs SSJ2 Cabba & Frost (both ToP)
9. Ikari Broly vs Hit (ToP)
10. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
1. Goku may be stronger at FT arc than back at the RoF arc but I don't think it is by much, therefore if ss2 was more than enough to handle Zamasu, ss3 is an easy win;
2. A tough one, but I think Gogeta would have a slight upperhand;
3. If Gohan could somewhat hold his own as a regular super saiyan, as ss2 he'd easily beat them;
4. I think Vegetto would win with ss2, maybe even with regular ss;
5. I'd bet on 17 simply because he would probably just defend until Dyspo gets exhausted;
6. By my standards, Goten and Trunks are around Android arc (early portion) super saiyans so Goku would easily win;
7. Zamasu would win, easily;
8. So Roshi, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Piccolo and 18 vs ss2 Cabba and Frost? Without a clever strategy, the Universe 6 duo would easily win;
9. I fight would like to see, which I think Hit would win fairly easy because I wouldn't expect Broli to figure out Hit's abilities;
10. Dabura easily wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:38 pm

1. MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Hope Sword Trunks, A17 & Golden Freeza (all post-ToP) vs Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit (all post-ToP).
2. UI Omen Krillin (ToP) vs SSB Goku (U6 arc)
3. SSJ3 Goku (17 arc) vs Super Baby 2
4. Krillin & Tien (Cell Games) vs Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc)
5. SSJ2 Raditz vs the Ginyu Force (no body-change)
6. SSJ1 Vegeta (early Android arc) vs SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut)
7. KKx5 Super Perfect Cell vs Fat Buu (Buu arc)
8. Base Black (in his prime + Scythe) vs Base Kefla
9. SSJ1 Kale vs Kamikaze Fireballs
10. SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat) vs Obuni
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:14 am

Zamasu55 wrote:- Since 18 had trouble with Ribrianne, who shouldn't be stronger than Base Goku/Vegeta (and if she is, by a small margin), I assume Zamasu would win easily.
I don't know much about Zamasu to say who win this fight, but the margins of Ribrianne's power I do know;

The Margin for Ribrianne's power is honestly pretty higher then that, she Tanked SSJ-1 Vegeta easy and Android 17 in episodes 102-103. She was nerfed in the later episodes, but if I had to figure an in-story reasoning, she was losing confidence by episode 111 and she had a de-transformation in episode 117 showing she was getting tired. So when Not Tired, factoring in her fighting abilities in Episodes 102-103 and with her Super and Giant taken into account for Ribrianne is and I am low-balling it her is around SSJ-2 to 3 at least at full health, not exhausted.

ruler9871 wrote:1. MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Hope Sword Trunks, A17 & Golden Freeza (all post-ToP) vs Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit (all post-ToP).
2. UI Omen Krillin (ToP) vs SSB Goku (U6 arc)
3. SSJ3 Goku (17 arc) vs Super Baby 2
4. Krillin & Tien (Cell Games) vs Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc)
5. SSJ2 Raditz vs the Ginyu Force (no body-change)
6. SSJ1 Vegeta (early Android arc) vs SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut)
7. KKx5 Super Perfect Cell vs Fat Buu (Buu arc)
8. Base Black (in his prime + Scythe) vs Base Kefla
9. SSJ1 Kale vs Kamikaze Fireballs
10. SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat) vs Obuni
1.) ~~~ MUI Goku & Awakened Jiren = each other out, while God Toppo finishes off most everyone else while the other give support alone is just to much ~~~ Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit!
2.) ~~~ SSB Goku (U6 arc)!
3.) ~~~ Super Baby 2!
4.) ~~~ Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc)!
5.) ~~~ The Ginyu Force (no body-change)!
6.) ~~~ SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut)!
7.) ~~~ KKx5 Super Perfect Cell!
8.) ~~~ Base Kefla!
9.) ~~~ I am Basing this on SSJ1 Kale is not Rage Kale, Kakunsa and Rozie Distract but Ultimately it takes Super or Giant Ribrianne to Finish ~~~ Kamikaze Fireballs!
10.) ~~~ SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat)!
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:39 am

ruler9871 wrote: 1. MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Hope Sword Trunks, A17 & Golden Freeza (all post-ToP) vs Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit (all post-ToP).
2. UI Omen Krillin (ToP) vs SSB Goku (U6 arc)
3. SSJ3 Goku (17 arc) vs Super Baby 2
4. Krillin & Tien (Cell Games) vs Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc)
5. SSJ2 Raditz vs the Ginyu Force (no body-change)
6. SSJ1 Vegeta (early Android arc) vs SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut)
7. KKx5 Super Perfect Cell vs Fat Buu (Buu arc)
8. Base Black (in his prime + Scythe) vs Base Kefla
9. SSJ1 Kale vs Kamikaze Fireballs
10. SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat) vs Obuni
R1 .much....if it is 1v1 I'd say team 2 wins.goku exhausts mui vs jiren, vegeta ties with toppo, then really no one is left for Kerala, who clears the remaining warriors
R2 goku. Too much base difference
R3 goku. He doesn't even need ssj, he can just beat sbv2 in base low diff
R4 I can say the Earthlings win
R5 following the daizenshuu's multiplier he ties with finer. In my opinion he still loses to guldo/ties with him
R6 vegeta was way stronger
R7 I can give this to cell
R8 kefla.
R9 kale
R10 obuni via scaling. He kept up with gohan, who at that moment was low God tier, that is equivalent to ft saga blue tier
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJgogeto » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:56 am

1. MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Hope Sword Trunks, A17 & Golden Freeza (all post-ToP) vs Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit (all post-ToP) - Goku and the others
2. UI Omen Krillin (ToP) vs SSB Goku (U6 arc) - Goku
3. SSJ3 Goku (17 arc) vs Super Baby 2 - Baby
4. Krillin & Tien (Cell Games) vs Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc) - Piccolo & Freeza
5. SSJ2 Raditz vs the Ginyu Force (no body-change) - Raditz
6. SSJ1 Vegeta (early Android arc) vs SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut) - Vegeta
7. KKx5 Super Perfect Cell vs Fat Buu (Buu arc) - Cell
8. Base Black (in his prime + Scythe) vs Base Kefla - Black
9. SSJ1 Kale vs Kamikaze Fireballs - Kale
10. SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat) vs Obuni - Vegeta

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Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:24 pm

ruler9871 wrote:1. MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Hope Sword Trunks, A17 & Golden Freeza (all post-ToP) vs Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit (all post-ToP).
2. UI Omen Krillin (ToP) vs SSB Goku (U6 arc)
3. SSJ3 Goku (17 arc) vs Super Baby 2
4. Krillin & Tien (Cell Games) vs Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc)
5. SSJ2 Raditz vs the Ginyu Force (no body-change)
6. SSJ1 Vegeta (early Android arc) vs SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut)
7. KKx5 Super Perfect Cell vs Fat Buu (Buu arc)
8. Base Black (in his prime + Scythe) vs Base Kefla
9. SSJ1 Kale vs Kamikaze Fireballs
10. SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat) vs Obuni
- Wow, this is a good match-up... okay, let's see:
The first team, which I'll call the "Heroes (despite Freeza)", has: the strongest character (not counting Zeno, Whis and the Grand Priest) of all DB Super (MUI Goku), a character that managed to defeat a God of Destruction (SsjBE Vegeta), a character that defeated a God with an immortal body (Trunks), and then two SsjB tier characters, probably the greatest strategists in the series.
The second team, the "Villains", has: the second strongest character of all DB Super (Jiren), a God of Destruction that in this fight can actually go all out and properly destroy his opponents (Toppo), a strooong fusion whose power rivaled Ultra Instict Omen Goku (Ssj2 Kefla), a creature that was beating into a pulp the entire U7 team (Aniraza) and an assassin that can stop time (Hit).
The Heroes' weakness is that some of them don't last that much, for example Goku after losing his MUI state can barely turn Ssj, and Trunks' Spirit Sword isn't infinite either. The Villains, on the other hand, only have a weakness, that being Aniraza's core that can be damaged.
That's why I think the second team can definetely win this fight.
- Pass... :mrgreen:
- Baby is still utterly superior.
- A Shinkikoho + Kienzan combo could beat one of them, but the one that remains instantly kills Krillin and Tien.
- Pass.
- It's 2 vs 1, Vegeta is stronger but not by a great margin. The duo takes it.
- Cell should surpass him, but he needs at least Kkx10 to completely erase Buu.
- Black Goku.
- Kale with slight trouble.
- Any SsjB, even from the RoF arc, is much stronger than Obuni, who I reckon is only Ssj3 tier or something like that.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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ruler9871 wrote:1. SSJ3 Goku (RoF) vs Present Zamasu
2. MUI Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
3. Future 17 & 18 vs SSJ2 Future Gohan (both arms)
4. SSJ3 Vegito (End of ToP) vs SSJ2 Kefla
5. Android 17 (ToP) vs Full Speed Dyspo
6. SSJ1 Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ1 Goten & SSJ1 Present Trunks (Buu arc)
7. Android 18 (Post-Ribranne fight) vs Present Zamasu
8. Team U7's Bottom 5 (no Mafuba) vs SSJ2 Cabba & Frost (both ToP)
9. Ikari Broly vs Hit (ToP)
10. Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
1. I would say SSJ3 Goku.

2. Current Goku is stronger than Black. MUI Black would be weaker than MUI Goku. I have MUI Goku slightly weaker than SSB Gogeta, but SSG Gogeta would be much weaker than that, probably even weaker than Black (specially Scythe), so I will say MUI Black wins here.

3. This fight would go similar to the anime fight, Gohan would dominate one android, but would be dominated by two.

4. I don't know, maybe a tie? Kefla was overpowered a lot.

5. Full Speed Dyspo would more likely win this one. However, Android 17 might defend himself with his barrier and would also probably think of a plan.

6. SSJ Goku beats both of them easily.

7. Ribrianne is just stronger than Base Saiyans, and that's it. Android 18 must still be weaker than SSJs, meanwhile Zamasu was able to go toe to toe with SSJ2 Goku. Zamasu takes it.

8. The humans are non factor here. Piccolo was stated to be weaker than Frost officially. Android 18 is weaker than Piccolo, and Cabba is stronger than Frost. Cabba and Frost have this very easy.

9. Hit would take this in my opinion. Ikari Broly is around SSJBs, while Hit at his maximum potential is much stronger than that.

10. Krillin was officially stated to be weaker than SSJ Goten and Trunks. Dabura takes this with no problems.
ruler9871 wrote:1. MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta, Hope Sword Trunks, A17 & Golden Freeza (all post-ToP) vs Awakened Jiren, God Toppo, SSJ2 Kefla, Aniraza & Hit (all post-ToP).
2. UI Omen Krillin (ToP) vs SSB Goku (U6 arc)
3. SSJ3 Goku (17 arc) vs Super Baby 2
4. Krillin & Tien (Cell Games) vs Piccolo & 3rd from Freeza (both Namek arc)
5. SSJ2 Raditz vs the Ginyu Force (no body-change)
6. SSJ1 Vegeta (early Android arc) vs SSJ1 Goku (Yartrat) & SSJ1 Trunks (debut)
7. KKx5 Super Perfect Cell vs Fat Buu (Buu arc)
8. Base Black (in his prime + Scythe) vs Base Kefla
9. SSJ1 Kale vs Kamikaze Fireballs
10. SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-Rosat) vs Obuni
1. There are much more powerful fighters in the second team. Android 17 is fodder. Golden Frieza, although much less fodder than 17, is still non factor. I don't know how this will go, but I feel like Team 2 would have it.

2. Pass.

3. Pass. Hadn't seen it in a while.

4. Piccolo and Frieza. I don't have the earthlings that strong.

5. He stomps everyone with one punch, battles equally with Ginyu, and his tougher saiyan body will make him win in that fight.

6. SSJ Vegeta's got this. He was supposed to be the strongest and unbeatable SSJ at the time.

7. Cell takes this.

8. Base Kefla probably. She was around TOP SSJG tier, while Black was only SSG tier from the FT arc.

9. I don't know this one, but I will say Kale just because.

10. SSB Vegeta. Gohan is not blue tier in my opinion. SSB Vegeta, even during the Black arc, would win this fight.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:30 pm

1) SSJ1 Goten (Buu arc, post-Rosat) vs 1st form Cell (peak)
2) Videl (Buu arc) vs General Blue
3) SSB Vegeta (ep.122) vs SSJR Black (Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
4) A17 & A18 (both ToP, post ep.117) vs Golden Freeza & Piccolo (both ToP)
5) Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) & Full Speed Dyspo
6) SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs SSJ1 Kefla
7) SSJ3 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Purple arm, no immortality)
8) SSJ2 Caulfila & SSJ2 Cabba vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (both DBS Broly)
9) SSJ2 Goku (Start of BoG) vs Kid Buu
10) Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Base Goku (Baby arc)
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:15 pm

1. SSJ3 Vegito (Start of BoG) vs Nova Shenron

2. SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs 3rd Omen Goku

3. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale

4. SSJ3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Fat Buu
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Post by p-hyvo » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:02 am

ruler9871 wrote:1) SSJ1 Goten (Buu arc, post-Rosat) vs 1st form Cell (peak)
2) Videl (Buu arc) vs General Blue
3) SSB Vegeta (ep.122) vs SSJR Black (Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
4) A17 & A18 (both ToP, post ep.117) vs Golden Freeza & Piccolo (both ToP)
5) Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) & Full Speed Dyspo
6) SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs SSJ1 Kefla
7) SSJ3 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Purple arm, no immortality)
8) SSJ2 Caulfila & SSJ2 Cabba vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (both DBS Broly)
9) SSJ2 Goku (Start of BoG) vs Kid Buu
10) Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Base Goku (Baby arc)
R1 goten via ssj
R2 blue via psychic powers
R3 blue vegeta from episode 109 would already be enough to take black out
R4 18 is taken out easily, but 17 wins cause he's far stronger than piccolo and doesn't consume energy like golden freezer
R5 golden freezer
R6 broly ez
R7 gogeta stomps
R8 goku and vegeta easily
R9 still kid buu
R10 rageta wins
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rubens » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:37 am

1) SSJ1 Goten (Buu arc, post-Rosat) vs 1st form Cell (peak)
2) Videl (Buu arc) vs General Blue
3) SSB Vegeta (ep.122) vs SSJR Black (Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
4) A17 & A18 (both ToP, post ep.117) vs Golden Freeza & Piccolo (both ToP)
5) Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) & Full Speed Dyspo
6) SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs SSJ1 Kefla
7) SSJ3 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Purple arm, no immortality)
8 ) SSJ2 Caulfila & SSJ2 Cabba vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (both DBS Broly)
9) SSJ2 Goku (Start of BoG) vs Kid Buu
10) Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Base Goku (Baby arc)
1. I think Goten would have a chance against Cell from Ginger Town, but against the one who fought #16 evenly I think Goten would lose to;
2. Nice match-up: Videl has the ability to fly but Blue has psychic powers and that paralyzing technique - I think he wins;
3. I think Vegeta would be roughly on par with Goku Black, only Zamasu tips the scale but without his immortality this fight can go either way. I would bet on the duo;
4. Freeza and 17 should be pretty close, Piccolo is a lot stronger than 18 as far as I know. Even though the twins are much better fighting as a team, the two aliens are individually stronger and should win this after a tough match;
5. Gohan is much weaker than Golden Freeza and Dyspo did put up a good fight in the anime, although I think the large gap in power provides Freeza the edge to win;
6. Broly, quite easily. If Kefla turn ss2 she might win if Broli doesn't go full power;
7. For me Gogeta=Vegetto, so I think Gogeta would need at least super saiyan god to win;
8. Goku was able to handle super saiyan Caulifla in base and Vegeta would probably do the same with Cabba, but ss2 might be too much. I think Goku and Vegeta lose unless they turn super saiyan;
9. Goku did seem a bit stronger since he fought Boo, and appeared to have been training his ss3 form, but I think ss2 still wouldn't be enough to overpower pure Boo;
10. I'm assuming enraged ss2 - I think Vegeta would win;
1. SSJ3 Vegito (Start of BoG) vs Nova Shenron
2. SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs 3rd Omen Goku
3. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale
4. SSJ3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Fat Buu
1. That's tough, I guess Vegetto would win eventually;
2. I'm guessing, mastered UI? Even then, I think Gogeta is a bit stronger (but not by much) so I believe he wins?
3. Final form Freeza seemed very strong since the ToP so I think he easily wins;
4. If ss2 Goku at the Boo arc was a bit stronger than Gohan and his ss3 form was stronger than fat Boo, I believe Gohan was be proportionally just as strong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:31 am

ruler9871 wrote:1) SSJ1 Goten (Buu arc, post-Rosat) vs 1st form Cell (peak)
2) Videl (Buu arc) vs General Blue
3) SSB Vegeta (ep.122) vs SSJR Black (Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
4) A17 & A18 (both ToP, post ep.117) vs Golden Freeza & Piccolo (both ToP)
5) Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) & Full Speed Dyspo
6) SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs SSJ1 Kefla
7) SSJ3 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Purple arm, no immortality)
8) SSJ2 Caulfila & SSJ2 Cabba vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (both DBS Broly)
9) SSJ2 Goku (Start of BoG) vs Kid Buu
10) Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Base Goku (Baby arc)
- Goten has definetly surpassed him after the RoSaT.
- General Blu.
- Vegeta's Final Flash kills Goku Black and his clones (I think it can do it since its power was higher than a Genkidama), Zamasu, without his immortality, is absolutely useless here.
- The funny thing is that team 2 should easily win this, but 17's plot armor made him survive much stronger foes, like Hakaishin Toppo and FP Jiren.
- Freeza is done for.
- Ssj Broly takes it.
- Gogeta needs SsjG at the very least, even if Zamasu isn't immortal.
- The first duo stomps badly.
- Kid Buu stomps badly.
- Vegeta definitely surpassed Ssj Vegito (SOMEHOW, because it doesn't make any sense), Goku gets trashed.

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ruler9871 wrote:1. SSJ3 Vegito (Start of BoG) vs Nova Shenron

2. SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs 3rd Omen Goku

3. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale

4. SSJ3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Fat Buu
Nova rapes
freezer rapes
Fatbuu non buu much
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:08 pm

ruler9871 wrote:1) SSJ1 Goten (Buu arc, post-Rosat) vs 1st form Cell (peak)
2) Videl (Buu arc) vs General Blue
3) SSB Vegeta (ep.122) vs SSJR Black (Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
4) A17 & A18 (both ToP, post ep.117) vs Golden Freeza & Piccolo (both ToP)
5) Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) & Full Speed Dyspo
6) SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs SSJ1 Kefla
7) SSJ3 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Purple arm, no immortality)
8) SSJ2 Caulfila & SSJ2 Cabba vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (both DBS Broly)
9) SSJ2 Goku (Start of BoG) vs Kid Buu
10) Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs Base Goku (Baby arc)
1. SSJ Goten would win here.

2. Blue wins, even without his psychic powers. Let's not forget that he dominated Krillin (post Roshi) without them.

3. Vegeta would already be stronger than Black here. However, the duo with Future Zamasu would complicate things for him. But I will still bet on Vegeta.

4. Android 18 is defeated by Piccolo, who in turn is defeated by Android 17. Then Golden Frieza wins against him in a somewhat good fight (which is just because 17 is smart and has infinite energy, not because he is as strong as people think).

5. Golden Frieza is much stronger than Ultimate Gohan, but against Full Speed Dyspo things would get complicated. I would say the team has this.

6. SSJ Kefla was only comparable to Kaioken Blue Goku. SSJ Broly is much stronger than that.

7. I would say Merged Zamasu would still win here.

8. I don't know why people say Goku and Vegeta win. Caulifla and Cabba should stomp here.

9. Kid Buu. I don't think Goku got that much stronger after the Buu saga.

10. Base Goku was only comparable to Buu. I believe it's Kid Buu. Enraged Vegeta was supposed to be much stronger than SSJ3 Goku (BOG), who is stronger than Kid Buu. Enraged Vegeta wins.

ruler9871 wrote:1. SSJ3 Vegito (Start of BoG) vs Nova Shenron

2. SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs 3rd Omen Goku

3. Final Form Freeza (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale

4. SSJ3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Fat Buu
1. I don't know, but I will go for Nova Shenron.

2. I will go with SSG Gogeta for this one, maybe.

3. Final Form Frieza would win here.

4. SSJ3 Gohan should win in my opinion.

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