The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:02 pm

Tai Lung wrote:Next battle
Goku UI Omen and Kefla VS Broly Super and Toppo God
Vegeta SSBE, Anilaza and Merged Zamasu VS Jiren
Hit VS Trunks Rage
Piccolo current VS Mr buu
Uub GT and Caulifla VS Hell fighter 17 and Basil
-Goku UI Omen and Kefla would win this one imo
-Jiren wrecks (although i always take Toriyama's version of Fused Zamasu that could be beaten by Goku&Vegeta Blue without fusing)
-Hit wrecks
-Piccolo might be stronger but Mr Buu would probably win anyway due to his op abilities
-Uub or Caulifla alone rape Basil and Caulifla owns HF17 since she can transform. If it's early GT Uub then he loses to HF17, but Baby saga Uub (not Majub) maybe could beat him with difficulty. Anyway team 1 wins.
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Post by SSJgogeto » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Android 35 (hypothetical potara fusion of 17 and 18 in the ToP) vs. Kefla - 35

Goku UI Omen and Kefla VS Broly Super and Toppo God - Goku and Kefla
Vegeta SSBE, Anilaza and Merged Zamasu VS Jiren - Jiren
Hit VS Trunks Rage - Hit
Piccolo current VS Mr buu - Piccolo
Uub GT and Caulifla VS Hell fighter 17 and Basil - 17 and Basil

1) Super Saiyan 3 Raditz (Saiyan Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga) - Raditz
2) Super Saiyan 3 Nappa (Saiyan Saga) vs. Second Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga) - Nappa
3) Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) vs. Third Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga) - Vegeta

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:44 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 3 Raditz (Saiyan Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

2) Super Saiyan 3 Nappa (Saiyan Saga) vs. Second Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

3) Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) vs. Third Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).
Raditz PL = 1200 or 1500 (I've seen both stated).

1200 x 50 x 2 x 4 = 480,000.

1500 x 50 x 2 x 4 = 600,000.

First form Freeza = 530,000. Second form Freeza = 1,060,000. Third form Freeza = Unknown, but likely at least 2,120,000.
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Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 3 Raditz (Saiyan Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

2) Super Saiyan 3 Nappa (Saiyan Saga) vs. Second Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

3) Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) vs. Third Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).
R1) freezer not by much
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Post by MainJPW » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:40 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Raditz PL = 1200 or 1500 (I've seen both stated).
Broli movie info cards say he was 1,600 during the fight against Goku & Piccolo.

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MainJPW wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Raditz PL = 1200 or 1500 (I've seen both stated).
Broli movie info cards say he was 1,600 during the fight against Goku & Piccolo.
Promotional material isn't accountable.
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Post by PFM18 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:02 am

MainJPW wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Raditz PL = 1200 or 1500 (I've seen both stated).
Broli movie info cards say he was 1,600 during the fight against Goku & Piccolo.
Can somebody point me to an English translation of that? Only time I've seen it linked it was just a picture of it apparently in Japanese.

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Post by dragonball0900 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:14 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 3 Raditz (Saiyan Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

2) Super Saiyan 3 Nappa (Saiyan Saga) vs. Second Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

3) Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) vs. Third Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).
1. It could go either way, but I'll give it to Raditz due to him being used to fight.

2. Nappa stomps, even if he is just 4,000.

3. Vegeta one shots here too.

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Post by ahill1 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:29 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:01 pm
1) Super Saiyan 3 Raditz (Saiyan Saga) vs. First Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

2) Super Saiyan 3 Nappa (Saiyan Saga) vs. Second Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).

3) Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) vs. Third Form Frieza (Planet Namek Saga).
1 - Using the official 400x multiplier for SSJ3, we'd have Raditz at around 500k (exactly at 500k according to my numbers)... First form Freeza is slightly stronger and accounting for the low SSJ3 stamina that I believe Raditz would share, the victory goes to the tyrant.

2- I believe Nappa ought to be close to 8,000 post calming down, as Goku and Vegeta stated the battle would take forever at that rate. So SSJ3 Nappa would have a big enough advantage to stomp Freeza's in his 2nd form.

3 - Err... Vegeta SSJ3 would end up even more powerful than initial final form Freeza when applying the official multipliers. 3rd form Freeza would get mercilessly pummeled around.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:39 am

1. Moro (current) vs Ikari Broly?
2. Buugito (Vegito, Gohan, Gotenks, and piccolo) vs 2% Beerus?
3. Hit vs Ssj Broly? (Hit can use killing techniques)
4. SsjR Black vs (Lightspeed) Dyspo and Android 17?
5. South Kaioshin vs Majin Vegeta?
6. Hit (ToP) vs 1st UI Goku (ToP)?

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Post by Rubens » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:06 am

1. Moro (current) vs Ikari Broly?
2. Buugito (Vegito, Gohan, Gotenks, and piccolo) vs 2% Beerus?
3. Hit vs Ssj Broly? (Hit can use killing techniques)
4. SsjR Black vs (Lightspeed) Dyspo and Android 17?
5. South Kaioshin vs Majin Vegeta?
6. Hit (ToP) vs 1st UI Goku (ToP)?
1. For as much as it annoys me to admit, I actually think Moro would beat Broli in that form with his magical abilities and whatnot (won't expand more on that at the cost of potential spoilers);
2. Erm, that greatly depends on how one gauges Beerus's power... I guess this version of Boo could beat that portion of his battle power;
3. I think Broli would mostly survive through Hit's techniques as a super saiyan, so I think Broli would eventually win through brute force;
4. Dyspo and 17 are individually much weaker than rosé Black but, combining efforts with their speed and resilience respectively, along with good coordination, I believe they could actually take him down;
5. The kaioshin seemed able to go toe to toe with pure Boo, who demolished ss2 Vegeta - the deity would probably win easily.
6. As far as I know Hit might be around ssg, close to ssb Goku at best so considering Goku is already aware of his abilities, I think he would win without a contest.
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Post by p-hyvo » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:37 am

Berserker1921 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:39 am
1. Moro (current) vs Ikari Broly?
2. Buugito (Vegito, Gohan, Gotenks, and piccolo) vs 2% Beerus?
3. Hit vs Ssj Broly? (Hit can use killing techniques)
4. SsjR Black vs (Lightspeed) Dyspo and Android 17?
5. South Kaioshin vs Majin Vegeta?
6. Hit (ToP) vs 1st UI Goku (ToP)?
R1 : moro I'd say
R2 : bills stomps
R3 : Broly. The gap is too big
R4 : dyspo/17
R5 : I'd go with south kaioshin definitely
R6 : goku stomps
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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:58 pm

Yo, guys, I would like to have your input on something.

Buu Saga

The famous question.

Who is stronger? Gokhan or Vegito?

Come to think of it, I recall Elder Kai saying after witnessing Vegito's might, that he performed better than his prediction on Gokhan's own performance. Correct me if I am wrong please.

But would the "rivarly boost" be enough to cover up for Gohan's unleashed potential?

Lastly, would Gokhan be able to go SSJ, or would he always be in a powered-up Base form kind of state? He could probably use Kaio Ken.
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Berserker1921 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:39 am
1. Moro (current) vs Ikari Broly?
2. Buugito (Vegito, Gohan, Gotenks, and piccolo) vs 2% Beerus?
3. Hit vs Ssj Broly? (Hit can use killing techniques)
4. SsjR Black vs (Lightspeed) Dyspo and Android 17?
5. South Kaioshin vs Majin Vegeta?
6. Hit (ToP) vs 1st UI Goku (ToP)?
- Broly is muche more aggressive than Vegeta, but I think Moro can beat him by absorbing his energy.
- Pass.
- Broly rapes him because Time-Skip is a joke now, anyone can overcome it.
- The duo wins.
- Well, judging by the DBZ filler, South Kaioshin did quite good against Kid Buu, while Vegeta was absolutely destroyed.
- Goku is vastly stronger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:49 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:58 pm
Yo, guys, I would like to have your input on something.

Buu Saga

The famous question.

Who is stronger? Gokhan or Vegito?

Come to think of it, I recall Elder Kai saying after witnessing Vegito's might, that he performed better than his prediction on Gokhan's own performance. Correct me if I am wrong please.

But would the "rivarly boost" be enough to cover up for Gohan's unleashed potential?

Lastly, would Gokhan be able to go SSJ, or would he always be in a powered-up Base form kind of state? He could probably use Kaio Ken.
I think it was stated in the Daizenshuu somewhere that a hypothetical Goku x Gohan potara fusion would be weaker than Vegito due to a lack of a rival boost, even though Ultimate Gohan was way stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta.
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Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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SSJ2 Future Trunks (end of Black arc) vs SSJ2 Cabba (ToP)
Base Vegito (Saiyan arc) vs Mecha Freeza
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ2 Caulifla, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ1 Kale (Post-ToP)
Base Gotenks (Buu arc post-Rosat) vs Piccolo (BoG)
SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragon arc) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
Mastered Berzerk Kale (Post-ToP) vs SSJ2 Goku (end of ToP)
UI Omen Goku (DBS Broly) vs Full Power Broly
Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Android 17 (ToP)
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs SSJR Goku Black (Scythe)
Super Perfect Cell (KKx100) vs Buutenks
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:08 am

Dialga and Palkia (game lore) vs MUI Goku and Jiren (Limit Broken)

Obviously Anime Dialga and Palkia would get blinked out of existence, and gameplay ability would give them even lower chances of winning, but according to in game lore, Dialga keeps all of time stable as long as his heart beats, and Palkia controls all of space with just his breath. With this, Dialga's level of time control is on a MUCH higher scale than Hit's, and Palkia has a similar level of control over space. Who wins?

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Post by p-hyvo » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:56 am

ruler9871 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:00 pm
SSJ2 Future Trunks (end of Black arc) vs SSJ2 Cabba (ToP)
Base Vegito (Saiyan arc) vs Mecha Freeza
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ2 Caulifla, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ1 Kale (Post-ToP)
Base Gotenks (Buu arc post-Rosat) vs Piccolo (BoG)
SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragon arc) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
Mastered Berzerk Kale (Post-ToP) vs SSJ2 Goku (end of ToP)
UI Omen Goku (DBS Broly) vs Full Power Broly
Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Android 17 (ToP)
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs SSJR Goku Black (Scythe)
Super Perfect Cell (KKx100) vs Buutenks
R1 kyabe if trunks isn't ikari
R2 mecha freezer
R3 vegeta
R4 gotenks neg diff
R5 vegeta neg diff
R6 goku
R7 ui omen
R8 17 If we count his best feat, otherwise gogeta
R9 vegeth easy
R10 buutenks
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Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:49 am

ruler9871 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:00 pm
SSJ2 Future Trunks (end of Black arc) vs SSJ2 Cabba (ToP)
Base Vegito (Saiyan arc) vs Mecha Freeza
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ2 Caulifla, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ1 Kale (Post-ToP)
Base Gotenks (Buu arc post-Rosat) vs Piccolo (BoG)
SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragon arc) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
Mastered Berzerk Kale (Post-ToP) vs SSJ2 Goku (end of ToP)
UI Omen Goku (DBS Broly) vs Full Power Broly
Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Android 17 (ToP)
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs SSJR Goku Black (Scythe)
Super Perfect Cell (KKx100) vs Buutenks
- Trunks is on a different level.
- Pass,
- The trio takes it with difficulty.
- Gotenks, of course. Piccolo hasn't made any significant improvements since the Buu arc.
- Vegeta.
- This fight already happened, Kale's stronger.
- Goku.
- Base Gogeta should win.
- Vegito needs at least SsjG to beat Black and his clones.
- Cell.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:15 am

New Hypothetical Question
How strong would Radgeta (the Metamoran fusion of Raditz and Vegeta [Saiyan Saga]) be?
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