The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rubens » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:45 pm

*New Fights*
1. Devil Man vs Frieza (Broly)? (But here is the kicker, he is allowed to do one attack, before Frieza attacks. Can he kill Frieza?)
2. Buu ( Gohan, gotenks, janemba) vs Ssj Kale?
3. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Ssj 2 Trunks (Black, pre-training)?
4. Darbra, SP Cell, and Bojack vs Ssj2 Goku (Buu)?
5. SsjB Gogeta (ToP) vs MUI Goku? (can Gogeta lay a hit Goku?)
1. Theoretically the Devilman should be able to take out Freeza with his special move, though I can see something silly like Freeza having too much evil to expand that its explosion could even endanger the universe or something, so the Devilman stops his attack.
2. With so many guys absorbed, I guess Boo wins otherwise he can just absorb her.
3. No idea, but I want to believe Vegetto would easily win.
4. SP Cell would be the only potential threat, but as long Goku avoids Dabra's spit he should be able to beat them.
5. I think Gogeta blue would be stronger powerwise and if Jiren could go head to head with MUI Goku, Gogeta definitely can too. Although I can't tell if he'd beat Goku.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJgogeto » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:48 pm

Ganos [Transformed] vs Cell [Semi Perfect]. - Cell
South Kaioshin vs SS3 Goku [Boo arc; No stamina issues]. - Goku
Grand Kaioshin [No Toyo manga BS] ]vs SS2 Goku [Boo arc]. - Kaioshin
Base Vegetto [Boo arc] vs Ultimate Gohan [Boo arc]. - without the filler probably Gohan
Merged Zamasu [Halo; No immortality] vs Aniraza. - Aniraza
Ultimate Gohan [Boo arc] vs Final Form Freeza [RoF]. - Freeza
Piccolo [ToP arc] vs SS3 Gotenks. - Piccolo
Good Boo [Slim form] vs Evil Boo [Gohan absorbed]. - Good Boo, probably
Base Gohan [ToP arc; Post E90] vs Base Commeson Vegeta. - Vegeta
SSB Vegetto [FT arc] vs GoD Toppo and SS2 Kefla. - Vegetto
SSB Gogeta vs Jiren [Limit Breaker]. - Jiren
SSB Gogeta vs Zeno's attendant. - Zeno's attendant

TOP Piccolo vs super perfect cell - Piccolo
TOP Piccolo vs Fat Buu (before becoming good and separating the evil in him) - Piccolo

Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan) vs God of Destruction Mode Toppo - Broly
Cumber (Super Saiyan 3 Full Power) vs Omega Shenron (Full Power) - Cumber
Broly (Full Power Supet Saiyan) vs Cumber (Super Saiyan 3) - Cumber

1) Son Goku (Androids Saga) vs. Majin Pui Pui. - Goku
2) Great Ape Vegeta (Androids Saga) vs. Majin Yakon. - Vegeta
3) Great Saiyaman Son Gohan (Androids Saga) vs. Majin Dabura. - Dabura
4) Golden Great Ape Future Trunks (Androids Saga) vs. Pure Evil Buu (The Grey One). - Buu

Hope Sword Trunks vs SSJ1 Kefla - Trunks
Omen Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly) - Black
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Golden Freeza (ToP) - Freeza
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs Hit (U6 arc) - Gohan
Base Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale (ep.101) - Kale

1. Devil Man vs Frieza (Broly)? (But here is the kicker, he is allowed to do one attack, before Frieza attacks. Can he kill Frieza?) - I think Frieza is beyond the limit of the technique
2. Buu ( Gohan, gotenks, janemba) vs Ssj Kale? - Buu
3. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Ssj 2 Trunks (Black, pre-training)? - Vegito
4. Darbra, SP Cell, and Bojack vs Ssj2 Goku (Buu)? - Goku
5. SsjB Gogeta (ToP) vs MUI Goku? (can Gogeta lay a hit Goku?) - Goku, and no

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Post by SSJgogeto » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:52 pm

Berserker1921 wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:06 am
ZombieVito wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:25 pm Ganos [Transformed] vs Cell [Semi Perfect].
1. Cell, easily. Ganos and even saitama have only demonstrated feats that’s comparable with early z.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:47 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:38 am
  • Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan) vs God of Destruction Mode Toppo
  • Cumber (Super Saiyan 3 Full Power) vs Omega Shenron (Full Power)
  • Broly (Full Power Supet Saiyan) vs Cumber (Super Saiyan 3)
- Toppo's only chance is an instant hakai, otherwise he's done for.
- Cumber would win pretty easily... in base.
- Probably Cumber. Probably.
ruler9871 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:42 pm Hope Sword Trunks vs SSJ1 Kefla
Omen Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Golden Freeza (ToP)
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs Hit (U6 arc)
Base Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale (ep.101)
- This Trunks can pretty much take down Ssj2 Kefla too.
- Pass.
- Freeza easily, come on.
- Hit, mid-difficulty.
- Kale, imho.
Berserker1921 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:33 am
*New Fights*

1. Devil Man vs Frieza (Broly)? (But here is the kicker, he is allowed to do one attack, before Frieza attacks. Can he kill Frieza?)

2. Buu ( Gohan, gotenks, janemba) vs Ssj Kale?

3. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Ssj 2 Trunks (Black, pre-training)?

4. Darbra, SP Cell, and Bojack vs Ssj2 Goku (Buu)?

5. SsjB Gogeta (ToP) vs MUI Goku? (can Gogeta lay a hit Goku?)
- Can Freeza live without a heart? That's the question, really.
- Buu doesn't even need to absorb Janemba to win.
- Vegito one-shots.
- Buu saga Goku was still a serious fighter, so he instantly one-shots Bojack and Darbula, and then proceeds to overwhelm Cell.
- No, he can't.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:39 pm

dragon boss z wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:10 pm
Grand Marshal 1 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:38 am
  • Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan) vs God of Destruction Mode Toppo
  • Cumber (Super Saiyan 3 Full Power) vs Omega Shenron (Full Power)
  • Broly (Full Power Supet Saiyan) vs Cumber (Super Saiyan 3)
Broly stomps Toppo, at full power he is Jiren tier, and Goku and Vegeta (both at or above GoD Toppo level) couldn’t even beat pre full power Broly together.
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:46 pm 1) Son Goku (Androids Saga) vs. Majin Pui Pui.

2) Great Ape Vegeta (Androids Saga) vs. Majin Yakon.

3) Great Saiyaman Son Gohan (Androids Saga) vs. Majin Dabura.

4) Golden Great Ape Future Trunks (Androids Saga) vs. Pure Evil Buu (The Grey One).
1. Goku stomps
2. Vegeta probably
3. Not sure what this means. Gohan was not the great saiyaman during the Android arc and it isn’t a form so it being a hypothetical character doesn’t even make sense.
4. pass
ruler9871 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:42 pm Hope Sword Trunks vs SSJ1 Kefla
Omen Black (Scythe) vs SSG Gogeta (DBS Broly)
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Golden Freeza (ToP)
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs Hit (U6 arc)
Base Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale (ep.101)
-Trunks if he can land a hit, Kelfa might be too fast though.
-Gogeta
-Frieza
-Hit, unless it’s manga versions, then maybe Gohan.
-Vegeta
1) Great Ape Son Goku (Emperor Pilaf Saga) vs. Zorc Necrophades (Yu-Gi-Oh! Dawn Of The Duel) (Against The Three Egyptian Gods).

2) Grandpa Son Gohan (Fortuneteller Baba Saga) vs. Anubis (Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie: Pyramid Of Light) (Against Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon).

3) Yamcha (21st World Tournament Saga) vs. Great Leviathan (Yu-Gi-Oh! Waking The Dragons) (Against The Three Egyptian Gods).

4) Jackie Chun (22nd World Tournanment Saga) vs. Red Nova (Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s) (Against The Crimson Dragon).

5) Krillin (23rd World Tournament Saga) vs. Black Fog (Pokémon: The Electric Tale Of Pikachu Manga).

6) Tien Shinhan (After Training With Mr. Popo) vs. False Groudon (Pokémon: Jirachi: Wish Maker).

7) Chiaotzu (Frieza Saga) vs. Mirage Mewtwo (Pokémon: The Mastermind Of Mirage Pokémon).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sūpāsaiya » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:41 pm

A Few Battles I Came Up With Because I'm Bored...

1) Base Gogeta (Broly Movie) Vs SSjB Goku (Broly Movie)
2) Base Vegito (Buu Saga) Vs Hypotheatical SSj Gogeta (Buu Saga)
3) SSjB Goku (Pre ToP) Vs Base Goku (Post ToP)
4) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku (Ep. 110) Vs SSjBE Vegeta (Ep. 127)
5) Hypotheatical SSjG Vegito (Broly Movie) Vs SSjFP Broly


That's it

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:22 pm

Sūpāsaiya wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:41 pm A Few Battles I Came Up With Because I'm Bored...

1) Base Gogeta (Broly Movie) Vs SSjB Goku (Broly Movie)
2) Base Vegito (Buu Saga) Vs Hypotheatical SSj Gogeta (Buu Saga)
3) SSjB Goku (Pre ToP) Vs Base Goku (Post ToP)
4) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku (Ep. 110) Vs SSjBE Vegeta (Ep. 127)
5) Hypotheatical SSjG Vegito (Broly Movie) Vs SSjFP Broly


That's it
1.Base Gogeta was shown to be much stronger, so he stomps.

2. Going by statements from the Z anime and OG manga itself and was well as the Daizenshuu, Base Vegito should be much stronger.

3. Current Base Goku is definitely nowhere near as strong as any version of his SSB self. I'd say he is stronger than his SSJ2 self when he fought the U6 Saiyan girls.

4. Both SSBE Vegeta & SSBKKx20 Goku when implied to have surpassed the 1st 2 UI Omens in ep.123. So Vegeta stomps hard unless even 1st Omen Goku's reaction speed would be too much for him.

5. I could give it to Vegito, mid-difficulty.
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sūpāsaiya » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:43 am

ruler9871 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:22 pm
Sūpāsaiya wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:41 pm A Few Battles I Came Up With Because I'm Bored...

1) Base Gogeta (Broly Movie) Vs SSjB Goku (Broly Movie)
2) Base Vegito (Buu Saga) Vs Hypotheatical SSj Gogeta (Buu Saga)
3) SSjB Goku (Pre ToP) Vs Base Goku (Post ToP)
4) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku (Ep. 110) Vs SSjBE Vegeta (Ep. 127)
5) Hypotheatical SSjG Vegito (Broly Movie) Vs SSjFP Broly


That's it
1.Base Gogeta was shown to be much stronger, so he stomps.

2. Going by statements from the Z anime and OG manga itself and was well as the Daizenshuu, Base Vegito should be much stronger.

3. Current Base Goku is definitely nowhere near as strong as any version of his SSB self. I'd say he is stronger than his SSJ2 self when he fought the U6 Saiyan girls.

4. Both SSBE Vegeta & SSBKKx20 Goku when implied to have surpassed the 1st 2 UI Omens in ep.123. So Vegeta stomps hard unless even 1st Omen Goku's reaction speed would be too much for him.

5. I could give it to Vegito, mid-difficulty.
I agree with you on everything besides the 3rd one. It sounds crazy, but just hear me out. When Android 17, Goku and Vegeta are fighting against Jiren, 17 is shown to be comparable to Goku and Vegeta. Goku and Vegeta are a lot stronger than they were even in ep.123 because of they've been adapting to Jiren a ton. The thing that's interesting about this is, androids cannot lose stamina or energy, meaning that the 17 that fought a fatigued Jiren in ep.131 should still be comparable to SSjBKK Goku and SSjBE Vegeta, therefore making him stronger than the 1st two UI Omens. Final Form Frieza and Base Goku with almost NO energy, fight Jiren better than 17 did. 17 just spammed energy blasts at Jiren, but Goku and Frieza were fighting Jiren hand-to-hand.

You could literally argue that ep.131 Base Goku surpasses that of UI"Omen" Goku from ep.110 and ep.116. I don't blame you if you disagree, it does seem a little out there, lol. But, I agree with you on everything else. :clap:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:42 am

Sūpāsaiya wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:41 pm
1) Base Gogeta (Broly Movie) Vs SSjB Goku (Broly Movie)
2) Base Vegito (Buu Saga) Vs Hypotheatical SSj Gogeta (Buu Saga)
3) SSjB Goku (Pre ToP) Vs Base Goku (Post ToP)
4) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku (Ep. 110) Vs SSjBE Vegeta (Ep. 127)
5) Hypotheatical SSjG Vegito (Broly Movie) Vs SSjFP Broly[/i]
1) by z and BoG logic base fusion should be weaker than ss3/god/blue but base gogeta does better than his fusees in the movies though. I put that down to toei stupidness though.
2) base vegito ain't shit outside anime filler, and the potaras differential over dance is way less than the 50 times multiplier ss1 is.
3) again although in the anime they keep getting magically stronger throughout the top the gap between base and blue is fucking insane. Closer to thousands than ss3s x400
4) I dunno anime top is dumb, doesn't he say vegetas the person who's challenged him most? Anime ? , Manga omen goku is better.
5) given how hard bluegeta stomps I think red can do it. I've never been sure on the multiplier between the forms. The manga implies its small as alternating between the two was viable in the black arc, red wasn't just speedblitzed by black.
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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:26 pm

Sūpāsaiya wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:41 pm A Few Battles I Came Up With Because I'm Bored...

1) Base Gogeta (Broly Movie) Vs SSjB Goku (Broly Movie)
2) Base Vegito (Buu Saga) Vs Hypotheatical SSj Gogeta (Buu Saga)
3) SSjB Goku (Pre ToP) Vs Base Goku (Post ToP)
4) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku (Ep. 110) Vs SSjBE Vegeta (Ep. 127)
5) Hypotheatical SSjG Vegito (Broly Movie) Vs SSjFP Broly


That's it
Base Gogeta wins I guess. Hopefully there's a retelling and his power becomes clear in that.

Well, since Vegetto = Gogeta, SS Gogeta finger flicks.

Even simple Kaioken Goku (pre ToP) one shots.

Vegeta stands no chance unless he gets another rage boost.

Gogeta needed Blue so would Vegetto.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:49 pm

TobyS wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:42 am
1) by z and BoG logic base fusion should be weaker than ss3/god/blue but base gogeta does better than his fusees in the movies though. I put that down to toei stupidness though.

There is nothing in BoG nor even the original manga that says that Base fusion should always be weaker than SSJ3/SSG/SSB, they are not tiers. Hell, the Daizenshuu itself states that Vegito was already the strongest character in Z in just his base, and the DBS Manga showed Base Vegito as being stronger than SSB Goku/Vegeta in the Black arc.

Remember, fusion is an A x B multiplier (and the Potara adds a rival boost on top of that).
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:55 pm

ZombieVito wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:26 pm
Well, since Vegetto = Gogeta, SS Gogeta finger flicks.
You'd believed a preview guide that wasn't made with Toei, Toriyama or even Toyotaro's input?

The original manga itself has Potara>Finger Fusion, so Vegito doesn't equal Gogeta.

Also, if even Kefla was much stronger than 1st 2 Omens Goku (to the point where she could one-shot him with a laser) then Vegeta even before the Pride Boost should stomp him too.
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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ruler9871 wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:55 pm
ZombieVito wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:26 pm
Well, since Vegetto = Gogeta, SS Gogeta finger flicks.
You'd believed a preview guide that wasn't made with Toei, Toriyama or even Toyotaro's input?

The original manga itself has Potara>Finger Fusion, so Vegito doesn't equal Gogeta.

Also, if even Kefla was much stronger than 1st 2 Omens Goku (to the point where she could one-shot him with a laser) then Vegeta even before the Pride Boost should stomp him too.
How the hell could you know for a fact that it didnt have Toei, Toriyama, or Toyotaro's input?

And the only comment in the manga was vague.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Tai Lung » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:20 am

Next Battle

Nuova shenron VS Hit
Goku Black VS Broly ikari
Frost VS Frieza GT
Tam Universe 2 VS Team Universe 9 VS Team Universe 10
Tagoma (Ginyu) VS Pan

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Post by Sūpāsaiya » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:03 am

Well, since Vegetto = Gogeta, SS Gogeta finger flicks.
Eh, I see where you're coming from but...

Guides + Feats + Manga/Show Statements >> That argument

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:54 am

ruler9871 wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:49 pm
TobyS wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:42 am
1) by z and BoG logic base fusion should be weaker than ss3/god/blue but base gogeta does better than his fusees in the movies though. I put that down to toei stupidness though.

There is nothing in BoG nor even the original manga that says that Base fusion should always be weaker than SSJ3/SSG/SSB, they are not tiers. Hell, the Daizenshuu itself states that Vegito was already the strongest character in Z in just his base, and the DBS Manga showed Base Vegito as being stronger than SSB Goku/Vegeta in the Black arc.

Remember, fusion is an A x B multiplier (and the Potara adds a rival boost on top of that).
Show me in the daiz where it says that, he Buuhan must have been stronger or he wouldn't have gone SS in the first place.

I know they aren't tiers but in the of manga base fusions never achieve anything and boosts from, base Gotenks pre is weaker than ss3 goku.(although how you rate the kids compared to adults can vary wildly.)

I always had Vegetto maybe around SS3 Goku, weaker than Gohan or Buuhan anyway. (Buuhan is only about 2 and a bit Gohans.) And SS1 is a huge boost.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Post by TobyS » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:06 am

Tai Lung wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:20 am Next Battle

Nuova shenron VS Hit
Goku Black VS Broly ikari
Frost VS Frieza GT
Tam Universe 2 VS Team Universe 9 VS Team Universe 10
Tagoma (Ginyu) VS Pan
Hit is weaker than Blue and maybe red but can hang in. BoG god > GT IMO so Hit to winno.
Thats oozaru powered base right? Black Rose wins
They've powered up but only face Goku who has been wanked soooo much in GT it's hard to say... I'd say he has to be stronger than Cell used to be and I Have Frost weaker than that as a SS1 owns him...
So GT Freeza?
This is a tough one, 3 of the girls are too much for 18, Basils uni are tough enough that Gohan and Piccolo couldn't easily break through to save the humans, Piccolo implies he can only handle one of the trio. The other Uni seem weaker although Obuni gets a bit of respect. I'd say Basils universe has the best showing against Piccolo who is stronger than 18 so I'd say his uni wins, especially if the trio work together.
Ginyu tagoma ripped off Kamiccolo arms. Pan gets owned unless this is a hypothetical future canon Pan who can go SS2 or more. She probably gets bodyswapped anyway.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:33 am

  • Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (GT, Pre-retcon) vs Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Vegeta (Post-Broly, Full Power, no Final Explosion)
  • Super 17 (Maximum Power) vs Wrathful Broly (Stage II, Powered-up to the Limit
  • 4th Form Cooler (Full Power) vs 100% Final Mecha-Freeza
  • Android 16 (Full Power) vs Super Android 13
  • Super Saiyan Gogeta (Pre-retcon, Buu Saga) vs Super Buu (Piccolo, Gotenks, Gohan absorbed)
  • Super Saiyan Vegito (Buu Saga) vs Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta (Pre-retcon, Buu Saga)
  • Fat Janemba vs Fat Buu (Innocent Buu, prior splitting into Good and Evil Buus)
  • Moro (Elder) vs God of Destruction Mode Toppo (I am not sure if this is the same with the Manga's "Aura of a God")
  • Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black (end of Zamasu arc, Scythe, Enraged) vs Super Saiyan Blue Copy Vegeta (Pre-ToP)
  • Overloaded Cell (GT, Full Power) vs 100% Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Buu Saga)
  • God (Katopesla) vs Zalama, Zeno (both), Daishinkan
P O W E R

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:19 pm

TobyS wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:54 am
Show me in the daiz where it says that, he Buuhan must have been stronger or he wouldn't have gone SS in the first place.
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Vegito merely went SSJ just to troll Buuhan, not because he absolutely needed to.
TobyS wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:54 am I know they aren't tiers but in the of manga base fusions never achieve anything and boosts from, base Gotenks pre is weaker than ss3 goku.(although how you rate the kids compared to adults can vary wildly.)
Base Vegito in the DBS manga causally shot off half of Merged Zamasu's body, showing that he is clearly stronger than SSB Goku/Vegeta in that saga. Its the same thing as Base Kefla beating up SSG Goku in the anime.
TobyS wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:54 am I always had Vegetto maybe around SS3 Goku, weaker than Gohan or Buuhan anyway. (Buuhan is only about 2 and a bit Gohans.) And SS1 is a huge boost.
There's nothing to suggest that Buu arc Base Vegito was weaker than Ultimate Gohan.
zarmack wrote:The whole "Dragonball is only supposed to be light and funny" mentality that exist in a lot of the fandom is in many ways even dumber than the "edgeload" side of the fandom. You know, the contrarians who think DB should be a Slice-of-Life series, the folks who worship Pre-Raditz Dragonball uncritically, the folks who downplay and often flat-out deny that Dragonball is an action series, the folks who try to push that false argument that none of the serious moments in the series were mean't to be taken seriously, etc.

Dragonball doesn't have a single tone. It has both silly and serious moments, both humor and drama, just like real life. The idea that a work of fiction should be only all-comedy or all-serious is unnatural and frankly, retarded.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:21 pm

Tai Lung wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:20 am Next Battle

Nuova shenron VS Hit
Goku Black VS Broly ikari
Frost VS Frieza GT
Tam Universe 2 VS Team Universe 9 VS Team Universe 10
Tagoma (Ginyu) VS Pan
-Nuova Shenron as his heat armor would prevent Hit from physical attacks + his ultimate is one of the most powerful moves in franchise as it was stated to be able to kill Omega Shenron
-Broly wrecks
-GT Frieza was very confident against Goku and he saw his SSJ3 power in Z so he should win this one
-No idea
-Tagoma probably wins
Grand Marshal 1 wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:33 am
  • Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (GT, Pre-retcon) vs Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Vegeta (Post-Broly, Full Power, no Final Explosion)
  • Super 17 (Maximum Power) vs Wrathful Broly (Stage II, Powered-up to the Limit
  • 4th Form Cooler (Full Power) vs 100% Final Mecha-Freeza
  • Android 16 (Full Power) vs Super Android 13
  • Super Saiyan Gogeta (Pre-retcon, Buu Saga) vs Super Buu (Piccolo, Gotenks, Gohan absorbed)
  • Super Saiyan Vegito (Buu Saga) vs Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta (Pre-retcon, Buu Saga)
  • Fat Janemba vs Fat Buu (Innocent Buu, prior splitting into Good and Evil Buus)
  • Moro (Elder) vs God of Destruction Mode Toppo (I am not sure if this is the same with the Manga's "Aura of a God")
  • Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black (end of Zamasu arc, Scythe, Enraged) vs Super Saiyan Blue Copy Vegeta (Pre-ToP)
  • Overloaded Cell (GT, Full Power) vs 100% Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Buu Saga)
  • God (Katopesla) vs Zalama, Zeno (both), Daishinkan
-Gogeta SSJ4 easily beats any saiyan from Super except for arguably Vegito/Gogeta Blue and UI Goku (if we follow SDBH logic)
-Broly spams ki so Super 17 should absorb that and he is dumb and very predictable fighter so Super 17 should be able to win this even with lower power level
-Mecha Frieza takes it imo
-This is pre rosat so i think #16 might win
-Gogeta easily wrecks Buu (unless Gotenks is still fused because it might be a problem then)
-Gogeta easily
-Fat Buu
-Toppo should win this one although Moro was still holding back so it's hard to say
-Goku Black wrecks
-GT Cell wrecks
-No idea
"I will concede that your feelings are worthy of the mightiest of Saiyans. However, there is more to my power than just this. Before you die, I will show it to you. This is the difference in power, between the primitive Saiyans and the evolved Tsufruians." ~Baby Vegeta

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