Nokra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:03 am
1.) SSBE Vegeta vs. SS Gogeta (DBS)
2.) SSBKKx20 Goku (No drain) vs. SS Gogeta (DBS)
3.) SSBE Vegeta/SSBKKx20 Goku (No drain) vs. FPSS Broly (DBS)
4.) SSBE Vegeta (Post-ToP) vs. SSBKKx20 Goku (No drain/Post-ToP)
5.) SSBE Vegeta vs. Pseudo-SSBE Vegeta (Manga)
6.) SSBKKx20 Goku vs. Pseudo-SSBKK Goku (Manga)
7.) Toppo Vs. Toppo (Manga)
8.) Dyspo vs. Dyspo (Manga)
9.) Jiren vs. Jiren (Manga)
10.) Gohan (ToP) vs. Gohan (Manga/ToP)
11.) Piccolo (ToP) vs. Piccolo (Manga/ToP)
12.) 17 (ToP) vs. 17 (Manga/ToP)
13.) 18 (ToP) vs. 18 (Manga/ToP)
14.) Krillin (ToP) vs. Krillin (Manga/ToP)
15.) Tien (ToP) vs. Tien (Manga/ToP)
16.) Roshi (ToP) vs. Roshi (Manga/ToP)
17.)Freeza (ToP) vs. Freeza (Manga/ToP)
18.) Beerus vs. Beerus (Manga)
19.) Jiren vs. Broly (DBS)
20.) Every GT Antagonist/Villain (And SS4 Gogeta) vs. UI Goku, Jiren & Broly (DBS)
1)Blue Evolution Vegeta. Even if it his initial stage.
2)Since we compare KK×20 Goku, again he wins (equal to initial Blue Evolution) but with double the effort.
3)Goku can't take him on individually (weaker than Blue Evolution Vegeta at this point). Both of them are 3 times stronger. Through cooperation and superior power, they take the giant down.
4)I have empowered Blue Evolution Vegeta, twice as strong as KK×20 Blue Goku. Goku has Omen and MUI after all. Perfect time to introduce a final KK mix with Blue, the Maximum Kaio Ken Blue, which would make him like 30×Blue. Anyway, Vegeta takes it.
5)Evolved PSSJB Vegeta (or Advanced SSJB as I call him) is more near the realm of power of KK×20 Blue Goku. The forms in the manga don't provide nearly as much as the same boost as the ones in the anime. Bad writing? Bad power scaling? Meh. That's how I perceive it. This form is 3 times stronger than the Power Stressed PSSJB, which itself is 3 times stronger than PSSJB, a form equal to Blue's Full Potential. So if PSSJB grants any multiplier on top of the percentage used by standard Blue in the manga, the advancements are always in the same realm of power. This form, even with a Vegeta with the same Base (we know it isn't happening), would lose, the same way a Blue KK×20 Goku would.
6)Same with Goku. Power Stressed PSSJB is roughly 3 times stronger than PSSJB. Again, no matter the multiplier of PSSJB on top of stadart SSJB, the power is the same. A KK×10 Blue should be enough. But if manga Blue equals anime Blue (which again can't happen since in the anime Blue never dropped below 80%, while in the manga it reached below 10%) manga Goku would only require Anime Goku to double his efforts (50% Blue in the manga equals 100% anime blue, thus PSSJB is just a 2× Blue in the manga). Anyway, I went way too over the board. Anime Goku wins.
7)Anime Toppo may be at a disadvantage in his Base. Anime Toppo could use his Aura of a God to boost his power to the realm of PSSJB. So he might as well be able to take Anime Toppo down, unless he powers up a little. Nah, I give it to manga Toppo.
8)Anime Dyspo stomps. Even in Base he should be more of a challenge. At least one that can rival SSJG.
9)I am intrigued with this one. Truly, I think they might be exactly the same. Anime Jiren received waaaaaaaaaaaay more build to his power though, so his strength is more solid. But I think that manga Jiren was meant to be the same. A wall. And he is.
10)things get weird. So Kale can fight SSJB level opponents in the Manga, but her fusion with Caulifla is equal to Gohan? Who isn't Ultimate? (actually I don't remember). She must have gotten weaker, which doesn't make sense. His power in the anime, although it came out of nowhere was far more grounded. Seeing how Kefla was treated in both media and what threat she posed, drawing the respective attention of the strongest opponents in both timelines, Anime Gohan should be superior. I can at least say that anime Koichiarator is equal to SSJ Kefla (anime) and Gohan tried to fight back with great power. Imo anime Gohan gets it.
11)Piccolo from the Anime
12)anime 17
13)anime 18
14)stalemate?
15)again? perhaps anime?
16)Now this is interesting. Manga Roshi has the skillz and anime Roshi the strength. But seeing how it went against Jiren he can avoid anime Roshi's attacks, but at one point he would get hit, thus lose. A very close battle but I give anime the edge.
17)Even if manga Freeza is PSSJB level, I don't think that he can take on a True Golden Freeza with feats (not only statements) of his power. Anime Freeza for me.
18)Truly,I think they are the same.
19)Jiren in his supressed state has difficulty. Full Power/100% Jiren takes it easily. SFP/LB Jiren stomps hard, like Gogeta Blue.
20)Only Gogeta is the real deal for post ToP characters. Even he can't hold his almighty status against these dudes. All 3 are overkill. Goku Blue is enough. SSJ Broly too. Supressed Jiren doesn't break a sweat. Wrathful Stage II Broly has some problems with Gogeta. God Goku even more. But that's how low we can go for an individual to solo these enemies.
Lmao, or what
Koitsukai said above with less words^^^