The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Berserker1921]

Moro vs. Kefla

Who wins?

Moro slaughters. Kefla is hyper arrogant and would play with the meek wizard. Which he will take advantage of, draining her of her power. Eventually, they will defuse and he will consume they’re energy. Probably reaching his prime after this encounter.

[Koitsukai]

1. Enraged Vegeta Ssj2 (BoG) vs Piccolo (ToP)
2. Vegeta SsjB (ToP) vs Hit (ToP)
3. Vegeta SsjB (ToP) vs Golden Freeza (ToP)
4. Vegeta SsjG (Broly) vs Dyspo
5. Vegeta Ssj1 (Buu) vs Bojack
6. Vegeta (End of Freeza) vs Lord Slug
7. Vegeta SsjBE (ToP) and Goku SsjBKkx20 (ToP) vs Kefla ssj2 and God Toppo
8. Base Vegeta (Cell Pre-ROSAT) vs Tien (Cell Games) and Krillin (Cell Games)
9. Vegeta Ssj2 (End of Buu) vs Evil Buu
10. Vegeta Ssj1, Goku Ssj1, Future Trunks Ssj1, Goten Ssj1 and Kid Trunks Ssj1 (all Pre-ROSAT) vs Android 17, Android 18 and early Imperfect Cell

1- SS2 Vegeta wins after a tough battle

2- Vegeta knows Hit, so he probably can counter his Time Skip. The Time Cage is like a last resource thing that Hit wouldn't fell the need to use against Vegeta.

3- Vegeta, he can't let himself lose again vs Freeza, not as a SSB

4- Dyspo. He needs blue.

5- Bojack. His SS form isn't really that impressive in the Buu arc, Bojack still needs SS2 to go down

6- Vegeta. I have Slug at best at 2nd or 3rd form Freeza, and Vegeta probably is up there as well. I never knew if they got zenkais after being revived, if they do, Vegeta destroys Slug without effort.

7- SSBE Vegeta alone can take out Toppo, Kefla would probably have Goku against the ropes until Vegeta saves his ass and takes Kefla out.

8- Although Tenshinhan spamming his attack managed to stop Full Lips Cell for a while, I think without the surprise factor that would've never happened. Vegeta would never let Tenshinhan attack him like that. They are both gone before they can actually think of a plan.

9- In the manga, Vegeta was a SS2 when Buu spanked him. His SS2 can't touch any Buu, perhaps not even Mr. Buu.

10- With the kids cornering 18 and probably having the edge against her, Goku and Vegeta can deal with 17, and Trunks can die against Cell. Then the kids, Goku and Vegeta can avenge Trunks.

Moro vs. Kefla

Who wins?

I assume is anime Kefla because manga Kefla is a lackluster character.

Moro wins, Kefla would get her power stolen and would have no idea what to do next.

[Zamasu55]

Uhhhm, Merged Zamasu literally explodes to bits after that. Goku Black's half dies, while Future Zamasu's immortal soul takes over everything.

Amazing. Everyting you just said is wrong.

Fused Zamasu himself discarded his body. Trunks never destroyed him.

There's no Goku Black half in there or Zamasus. Once a fusion is born, it's a new soul that's created from the fusees.

- Based on?

- Can you explain the Grotesque form then? The purple side, the damaged one. Isn't that Goku Black's mortal side?

[p-hyvo]

New Fights

1. SsjRage Trunks vs G. Frieza (ToP)?

2. Ult Gohan (ToP) vs Ikari Broly?

3. M. Zamasu (no immortality) vs Base Toppo and Dyspo?

4. SsjBlue Vegito (Black) vs Ssj Broly?

5. GoD Toppo vs SsjRage Trunks, Ult. Gohan, and 17?

1) freezer oneshots even in final form
2) Ikari Broly could sustain a brawl with a ssb fron dbs Broly. Ikari Broly murders
3)toppo and dyspo
4)ssj Broly was stronger than jiren After toppo got eliminated, so he Wind
5) toppo murders

[Berserker1921]

New fights

1. ULT. Gohan (Buu) vs Final Form Frieza (RoF)?

2. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Beerus (King Kai’s planet)?

3. Hit (ToP) vs 7-3 (No Moro’s abilities, just piccolo’s)

4. Buuhan vs base Black (first appearance)?

5. U6/U7 vs FP Broly?

(Conditions, Goku and Vegeta can use SsjBlueKkx20/SsjBE. No fusions or UI. But U6 Kefla is allowed. ToP rules)

[Zamasu55]

New fights

1. ULT. Gohan (Buu) vs Final Form Frieza (RoF)?

2. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Beerus (King Kai’s planet)?

3. Hit (ToP) vs 7-3 (No Moro’s abilities, just piccolo’s)

4. Buuhan vs base Black (first appearance)?

5. U6/U7 vs FP Broly?

(Conditions, Goku and Vegeta can use SsjBlueKkx20/SsjBE. No fusions or UI. But U6 Kefla is allowed. ToP rules)

- Freeza one-shots.
- After getting stomped, Goku straight up says that even by fusing he'd be no match for Beerus. So, there's not really any doubts here.
- Hit one-shots.
- I'm gonna have to say Buuhan here.
- You mean the ToP teams? Well, Krillin, Tienshinhan, Roshi, Piccolo, 18, Gohan, 17, Botamo, Dr. Rota, Magetta, Frost, Saonel and Pilina are utterly worthless here, Broly'd swap them like flies.
It's basically Goku, Vegeta, Hit and Kefla vs Broly... and since fusion's not allowed, they all die.

[Koitsukai]

New fights

1. ULT. Gohan (Buu) vs Final Form Frieza (RoF)?

2. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Beerus (King Kai’s planet)?

3. Hit (ToP) vs 7-3 (No Moro’s abilities, just piccolo’s)

4. Buuhan vs base Black (first appearance)?

5. U6/U7 vs FP Broly?

(Conditions, Goku and Vegeta can use SsjBlueKkx20/SsjBE. No fusions or UI. But U6 Kefla is allowed. ToP rules)

1- Freeza. His 1st form one-shot Gohan, his final form should be stuff for Super Vegito only.

2- Beerus. Goku believes not even a contemporary Vegito would get the job done.

3- Hit. He doesn't foul around, he knocks you out (unless you are a SSB, Jiren or a supersonic space rabit) or kills you in his first attempt. Hit wins without even knowing his victim had a special technique.

4- Black. He was stated to be stronger than SS3 Goku although it wasn't that obvious when they fought. I believe FT arc SS3 Goku is stronger than Buuhan.

5- Without UI or fusing, U7 has no chance against FP Broly, Jiren didn't even need to go full power to deal with them. U6 only has SS2 Kefla and Hit, they are even more fucked than U7. The only chance would be if Broly kills someone like Dr. Rota and is disqualified.

[ZombieVito]

Uhhhm, Merged Zamasu literally explodes to bits after that. Goku Black's half dies, while Future Zamasu's immortal soul takes over everything.

Amazing. Everyting you just said is wrong.

Fused Zamasu himself discarded his body. Trunks never destroyed him.

There's no Goku Black half in there or Zamasus. Once a fusion is born, it's a new soul that's created from the fusees.

- Based on?

- Can you explain the Grotesque form then? The purple side, the damaged one. Isn't that Goku Black's mortal side?

Gowasu confirms it on the same episode.

That's just the effects it had on the fused body. The soul of the fusion is always one, created for the mixture of the fusees.

New fights

1. ULT. Gohan (Buu) vs Final Form Frieza (RoF)?

2. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Beerus (King Kai’s planet)?

3. Hit (ToP) vs 7-3 (No Moro’s abilities, just piccolo’s)

4. Buuhan vs base Black (first appearance)?

5. U6/U7 vs FP Broly?

(Conditions, Goku and Vegeta can use SsjBlueKkx20/SsjBE. No fusions or UI. But U6 Kefla is allowed. ToP rules)

Ultimate Gohan was made a big deal of in Episode 88 so I'm leaning on him winning with some difficulty.
Beerus would definitely need to get a little more serious with him.
Hit blows his head clean with a punch.
Black kills him with a blink of an eye. In have Boohan weaker than SS Goku from the FT arc.
They stand no chance. SS2 Kefla and and enraged SSBE Vegeta are the only ones that can lasts more than a few seconds against him and they still can't do anything.

[p-hyvo]

New fights

1. ULT. Gohan (Buu) vs Final Form Frieza (RoF)?

2. Ssj Vegito (Buu) vs Beerus (King Kai’s planet)?

3. Hit (ToP) vs 7-3 (No Moro’s abilities, just piccolo’s)

4. Buuhan vs base Black (first appearance)?

5. U6/U7 vs FP Broly?

(Conditions, Goku and Vegeta can use SsjBlueKkx20/SsjBE. No fusions or UI. But U6 Kefla is allowed. ToP rules)

1) freezer stomps
2) beerus and that was made pretty clear
3) hit
4) black goku of he's from the anime, buu if black goku Is from the manga
5) without fusions, Broly slaughters

[Zamasu55]

Amazing. Everyting you just said is wrong.

Fused Zamasu himself discarded his body. Trunks never destroyed him.

There's no Goku Black half in there or Zamasus. Once a fusion is born, it's a new soul that's created from the fusees.

- Based on?

- Can you explain the Grotesque form then? The purple side, the damaged one. Isn't that Goku Black's mortal side?

Gowasu confirms it on the same episode.

That's just the effects it had on the fused body. The soul of the fusion is always one, created for the mixture of the fusees.

But they're the same person.

[ZombieVito]

- Based on?

- Can you explain the Grotesque form then? The purple side, the damaged one. Isn't that Goku Black's mortal side?

Gowasu confirms it on the same episode.

That's just the effects it had on the fused body. The soul of the fusion is always one, created for the mixture of the fusees.

But they're the same person.

Different versions of the same person. They still lived different lives for a bit. Infinite Zamasu does reflect base Zamasu because of them being that though.

[SupremeKai25]

Regarding Fused Zamasu's destruction, Trunks didn't actually destroy him. Trunks only cleaved him in half, dealing so much damage that his regeneration couldn't start. Then it's Fused Zamasu himself who decided to abandon his disfigured form and embrace his new ethereal state, and the proof of this is that Fused Zamasu disintegrated a long time after he was already cleaved in half by Trunks.

[Koitsukai]

Future timeline
16, 17, 18, 1st form Cell(the one that Trunks ambushed after the Cell Games), SS Trunks, SS Future Gohan vs Goku Black (no Rosé or regular SS like in the manga)

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Cell Games II
RoF 1st Form Freeza shows up, how does that go?
1- vs SS Goku
2- vs SS Vegeta
3- vs 7 Cell Jr
4- vs Perfect Cell
5- vs SS2 Gohan

[ZombieVito]

Regarding Fused Zamasu's destruction, Trunks didn't actually destroy him. Trunks only cleaved him in half, dealing so much damage that his regeneration couldn't start. Then it's Fused Zamasu himself who decided to abandon his disfigured form and embrace his new ethereal state, and the proof of this is that Fused Zamasu disintegrated a long time after he was already cleaved in half by Trunks.

Not to mention the fact that he was still talking after it, proving he was infact immortal, just with a faulty body.

Future timeline
16, 17, 18, 1st form Cell(the one that Trunks ambushed after the Cell Games), SS Trunks, SS Future Gohan vs Goku Black (no Rosé or regular SS like in the manga)

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Cell Games II
RoF 1st Form Freeza shows up, how does that go?
1- vs SS Goku
2- vs SS Vegeta
3- vs 7 Cell Jr
4- vs Perfect Cell
5- vs SS2 Gohan

Unfair match up. Base Black can solo Z.
None. All of them can kill him individually.
Freeza wins all of them with the exception of Cell and Gohan.

[p-hyvo]

Future timeline
16, 17, 18, 1st form Cell(the one that Trunks ambushed after the Cell Games), SS Trunks, SS Future Gohan vs Goku Black (no Rosé or regular SS like in the manga)

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Cell Games II
RoF 1st Form Freeza shows up, how does that go?
1- vs SS Goku
2- vs SS Vegeta
3- vs 7 Cell Jr
4- vs Perfect Cell
5- vs SS2 Gohan

R1 black goku wins. All già opponents are insignificant to him

R2 imo freezer needs già final form to hold a significante advantage over the trio, but still crillin or tenshinhan can kill him with kienzan or kikoho

R3 this time, freezer clears

[Vegetes]

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Tien wins pretty hard, imo Tien is pretty underrated, considering he was able to hold off Semi-perfect Cell who was far far stronger than first form frieza,
Krillin has a good chance to win, definitely could lose.
And Yamcha doesn't have a chance.

[Vegetes]

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Tien wins pretty hard, imo Tien is pretty underrated, considering he was able to hold off Semi-perfect Cell who was far far stronger than first form frieza,
Krillin has a good chance to win even if Freeza transforms, definitely could lose.
And Yamcha doesn't have a chance.

[Sūpāsaiya]

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Krillin, Tenshinhan and Yamcha all slap Freeza on their own. All of them came to the battle against the Androids, even though Piccolo straight-up said "Don't come if you'll be useless." They should at least surpass Freeza's Restricted Forms, including 2nd and 3rd.

Cell Games II
RoF 1st Form Freeza shows up, how does that go?
1- vs SS Goku
2- vs SS Vegeta
3- vs 7 Cell Jr
4- vs Perfect Cell
5- vs SS2 Gohan

Freeza, in his Final Form (not even in his buff, 100% form) was swapping hands with God Absorbed Goku. Even prior to Whis Training, Goku got so strong in his Base that he smacked away Beerus' Death Ball. 1st Form Frieza should be more than enough to murder all of them.

[TobyS]

Future timeline
16, 17, 18, 1st form Cell(the one that Trunks ambushed after the Cell Games), SS Trunks, SS Future Gohan vs Goku Black (no Rosé or regular SS like in the manga)

Cell Games
Namek 1st Form Freeza shows up, who can he beat?
a- Krilin?
b- Tenshinhan?
c- Yamcha?
d- all at the same time?

Cell Games II
RoF 1st Form Freeza shows up, how does that go?
1- vs SS Goku
2- vs SS Vegeta
3- vs 7 Cell Jr
4- vs Perfect Cell
5- vs SS2 Gohan

He can't beat any of his humans in the first form, probably first 3 forms. But we know final form can beat at least one of them as he is still stronger than base BoG era goku.

RoF 1st form freeza... slightly hard to say, he owned SS1 Gohan easily, but SS2 Gohan is twice as strong as that, you can own a person with only a small power advantage so we don't really have enough data to say. My heart says Gohan narrowly takes it, but I think it's Freeza in the anime version.

The Manga version lacks the Gohan owning feat. Gohan seems less pathetic too. So there's more leeway there. The dragon team aren't strong enough to speedblitz freeza 1st form because they still decide to call Goku back to earth instead of try. But they do know he can transform so it's doesn't mean Gohan couldn't take first form specifically.

[ZombieVito]

MUI Goku vs SSB Gogeta. Goku can't evade unconsciously and Gogeta doesn't have a time limit.
Gohan [Post Z Sword] vs Vegeta [Pre-Majin boost].
Nappa [Broly movie] vs Namekian warrior [One of the trio that fought Dodoria].
Appule vs Bardock [Broly movie].
Kuririn vs Base Goten. Both ToP arc. No Super Saiyan or kill techniques allowed.
Jaco vs Raditz.
Gine vs 1 Saibaiman.