The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[The Monkey King]

Who do you think is the strongest character a hypothetical saiyan saga Vegito could beat?

[TheMightyOzaru]

At bare minimum he could end Freeza's first form. At max he could take on about 6% of Freeza's maximum. This is disregarding Kaioken. With Kaioken, assuming he could get up to 20x after fusion, he could beat Freeza outright at max.

[Rocketman]

Who do you think is the strongest character a hypothetical saiyan saga Vegito could beat?

In base, he would be roughly equal to SS Goku on Namek. With Oozaru, he could hang in right up to Fat Buu, beating all the SS2 characters, Cell and Dabura.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I'd like to see you try and make a BP list where Buu has a BP of 1,500,000,000. It won't work out for you, and before you say fan made BPs mean nothing, this is simple math. The Cyborg arc scales in such a way that makes this pretty much impossible.

[RandomGuy96]

Someone who could stomp all the SS2s at the same time being below 1,500,000,000?...yeah, I'm just gonna ignore that one.

Anyway, if you want to get really excessive, you could go with SS3 Goku < SS Gotenks pre <<<<< SS Gotenks post (expected) < base Gotenks <<<<<<<<<<<<< SS Gotenks post <<< Super Buu < SS3 Gotenks < Gohan < Buutenks < base Gokhan < base Vegetto =< Buuhan, which would make base Vegetto something like six hundred thousand times stronger than base Goku. Then the weakest character who could actually take Saiyan Saga Super Vegetto would be Super Buu, and the weakest that could take base Vegetto would be full power Perfect Cell. It's unknown how much of a difference their (Goku and Vegeta) larger power disparity will make, though, when considering the final result (Vegetto).

I choose to be more conservative; a hypothetical saiyan saga Vegetto, in base, would for me be second form Freeza tier. If Goku and Vegeta just so happened to have the same power level of 18,000, he'd be exactly as strong as Initial Final Form Freeza, i.e. comparable to base Goku at the end of the Namek Saga. Though maybe I should revise that position, as a non-absurd multiplier more or less requires ignoring what Old Kai said about Buutenks.

[ZombieVito]

Piccolo (DBUniverse/Eoz) vs Dabura.

[RandomGuy96]

Piccolo (DBUniverse/Eoz) vs Dabura.

Dabra smashes him like a bug.

[Kid Buu]

Based on the "Yajirobe" thread - Yamcha Vs. Yajirobe at the end of DB.

For the sake of the fight, let's ignore the whole "Yamcha can only win a fight if it involves Chichis or someone called Chichi" rule.

Yo?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Piccolo (DBUniverse/Eoz) vs Dabura.

Dabura.

[ZombieVito]

So 10-20 years are not enough for Piccolo to catch up to SSJ Gohan?

[TheMightyOzaru]

So 10-20 years are not enough for Piccolo to catch up to SSJ Gohan?

It's just 10 and no. Not even GT Piccolo is strong enough to beat Dabura. He's close, but still weaker.

[Rocketman]

I'd like to see you try and make a BP list where Buu has a BP of 1,500,000,000. It won't work out for you, and before you say fan made BPs mean nothing, this is simple math. The Cyborg arc scales in such a way that makes this pretty much impossible.

Super Vegeta is roughly double SS Goku on Namek.
Cell Games Goku is roughly double Super Vegeta.
The Super Saiyan 2s are roughly double Cell Games Goku.

2 x 2 x 2 = 8, and Oozaru is x10.

[Cursed Lemon]

SSJ Goku on Namek vs. SSJ Trunks (pre ROSAT)

[The Monkey King]

I'd like to see you try and make a BP list where Buu has a BP of 1,500,000,000. It won't work out for you, and before you say fan made BPs mean nothing, this is simple math. The Cyborg arc scales in such a way that makes this pretty much impossible.

Super Vegeta is roughly double SS Goku on Namek.
Cell Games Goku is roughly double Super Vegeta.
The Super Saiyan 2s are roughly double Cell Games Goku.

2 x 2 x 2 = 8, and Oozaru is x10.

Nope.
Semi perfect Cell = FP Imperfect Cell + Android 18
Super Vegeta only being double Namek saga SSJ Goku makes no sense.

[ZombieVito]

So 10-20 years are not enough for Piccolo to catch up to SSJ Gohan?

It's just 10 and no. Not even GT Piccolo is strong enough to beat Dabura. He's close, but still weaker.

I included Universe in there, even if it's not canon.

I really don't see why he couldn't beat Dabura or at least be close to him at EoZ.

And lol GT Piccolo destroys Dabura. He solos DBZ except Vegetto.

[RandomGuy96]

GT Piccolo was controlling Hell. Ridlo was down there, and he's at least stronger than any Z-era SS2 aside from Gotenks.

SSJ Goku on Namek vs. SSJ Trunks (pre ROSAT)

Trunks stomps. So. Hard.

[TheGmGoken]

Arm wrestling contest

LSSJ3 Broly vs Birsu vs Whis vs SSG Goku vs Buff Roshi vs USSSJ Vegeta vs Buff Garlic vs 100% Freezza

[RandomGuy96]

Arm wrestling contest

LSSJ3 Broly vs Birsu vs Whis vs SSG Goku vs Buff Roshi vs USSSJ Vegeta vs Buff Garlic vs 100% Freezza

...I'm convinced this is not a serious match-up. I don't know why. I just get the feeling.

Anyway, Whis rips everyone else's arms off and beats them to death with them. Thereby winning the arm wrestle. That's how you play, right?

[TheGmGoken]

Wonder what's the purpose of muscle mass in DB? I mean Vegeta(Saiyan Arc) muscle is VERY smaller than Nappa's.

Nappa vs Vegeta arm wrestlings

^ Saiyajin Arc

[RandomGuy96]

I figure that ki is sort of like a multiplier. So Nappa with a power level of 100,000 vs Vegeta with a power level of 100,000 would end with Vegeta being a bloody stain because Nappa is so much bigger and buffer. Similarly, kid Goku with a power level of ten was much stronger than a human with the same power level because of his physically tough Saiyan body.