The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

V-Jump put Final Form Cooler at 470,000,000. That is just under 4x Freeza's 120,000,000. Not 40x.

V-Jump also said that Super Gogeta had a power level of 2.5 billion, which would about less than twice as strong as a Namek saga SSJ 3 Goku....
The power levels they make are for promotional purposes.

Before Cooler transformed he stated that Freeza was stronger than him up until he reached his 5th transformed state. So we know his 4th form is weaker, but how much is the question. He could actually be 10-20x weaker than 100% Freeza in 4th form. We don't have any evidence to the contrary after all.

That's a dub line.

[Angelus]

Alright.. some pre-bedtime (lol) versus:

Kibito VS King Cold
[No blowing up of planets]

Nam VS Major Metallitron

Average Yardratian VS Yajirobe with sword (First appearance)

Drum VS 22nd WMAT Tien, Goku, Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Krillin
[No dodon ray/kamehameha/tribeam/evil containment wave]

East Kaioshin VS SSJ Goten
[No paralysis or materialization magic ]

[Super SaiyaJon]

Alright.. some pre-bedtime (lol) versus:

Kibito VS King Cold
[No blowing up of planets]

Nam VS Major Metallitron

Average Yardratian VS Yajirobe with sword (First appearance)

Drum VS 22nd WMAT Tenshinhan, Goku, Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Krillin
[No dodon ray/kamehameha/tribeam/evil containment wave]

East Kaioshin VS SSJ Goten
[No paralysis or materialization magic ]

Cold wins fairly easily. Kibito was stated to be able to give base Gohan (Pre Z Sword) a decent fight. Considering the base Saiyans never passed Freeza, and that Cold isn't too far from Freeza in power, Cold should win with low difficulty.

Major Metallitron stomps. Nam really isn't that special. He's weaker than 21st WMAT Goku.

I don't know, probably a Yardrat. We really didn't see much of anything about the Yardrats other than the instant transmission. I'm sure they have enough clever moves to take Yajirobe.

Drum stomps. You took away any hope by removing their techniques.

Probably Kaioshin, considering he is way stronger than Piccolo (25WMAT).

[CatouttaHell]

Alright.. some pre-bedtime (lol) versus:

Kibito VS King Cold
[No blowing up of planets]

Nam VS Major Metallitron

Average Yardratian VS Yajirobe with sword (First appearance)

Drum VS 22nd WMAT Tenshinhan, Goku, Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Krillin
[No dodon ray/kamehameha/tribeam/evil containment wave]

East Kaioshin VS SSJ Goten
[No paralysis or materialization magic ]

1. No idea how powerful Kibito is besides that he's a good deal weaker than base Gohan, but I think he might be able to pull off a win here if he makes good use of his Kai Kai technique.

2. Namu wins the same as Son did. He was about as powerful as 21st TB Goku, and I don't think Son got his RRA arc Zenkai until after Muscle Tower.

3. No clue.

4. Drum is an absolute beast considering he tanked and three-shotted Tenshinhan. Though I think the 22nd TB team would pull of a win somehow considering Drum doesn't seem to be an exceptionally skilled fighter.

[ZombieVito]

Alright.. some pre-bedtime (lol) versus:

Kibito VS King Cold
[No blowing up of planets]

Nam VS Major Metallitron

Average Yardratian VS Yajirobe with sword (First appearance)

Drum VS 22nd WMAT Tenshinhan, Goku, Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Krillin
[No dodon ray/kamehameha/tribeam/evil containment wave]

East Kaioshin VS SSJ Goten
[No paralysis or materialization magic ]

a) Cold wins easily.

b) While Nam is stronger I see no way he could destroy Metallitron. He losses by exhaustion.

c) We didn't even see them. I guess they could be stronger than 1,000 since the Ginyu force was going to invade them after all.

d) Drum one shots everyone except Goku and Tenshinhan. Both of them could manage something with their techniques but since they can't use them they lose.

e) I have Goten a little bit stronger than Kaioshin and since he is incompetent he loses.

[RandomGuy96]

Alright.. some pre-bedtime (lol) versus:

Kibito VS King Cold
[No blowing up of planets]

Nam VS Major Metallitron

Average Yardratian VS Yajirobe with sword (First appearance)

Drum VS 22nd WMAT Tenshinhan, Goku, Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Krillin
[No dodon ray/kamehameha/tribeam/evil containment wave]

East Kaioshin VS SSJ Goten
[No paralysis or materialization magic ]

Cold one-shots. He is only somewhat weaker than 100% Freeza according to Daizenshuu 7, while the same book labels Kibito as somewhat weaker than base Buu arc Gohan. Unless, of course, Kibito just teleports Cold into the middle of nowhere space. Cold might be arrogant enough to fall for that.

Metallic. He seemed to give Goku a much harder time.

In a universe where Goku at 416 is considered strong enough to wipe out entire civilizations, I doubt the Yardratians are sporting power levels even close to Yajirobe's. He was the third strongest martial artist on Earth, not counting gods and demons. Heck, I doubt they're superior to regular humans at all, as we've received no indication that they are. Well, unless you count that one video game. In which case they have warriors stronger than 100% Freeza.

Ten wasn't instantly defeated and could make Drum bleed, so I think they can drown him in numbers. It'd be like a gauntlet, where Drum fights Ten and Goku, beats them, fights Roshi, beats him, and then finally fights Krillin, but is weakened enough that Krillin can win. Yamcha and Chaozu are both dispatched immediately Nappa-style before the real battle starts, so Drum can make a point.

East Kaioshin, pretty easily. Piccolo's "different dimension" comment implies a very hefty gap between them... I don't think SS Goten is superior enough to Piccolo that he can beat him with one punch, but I do think Kaioshin is there.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

1. No idea how powerful Kibito is besides that he's a good deal weaker than base Gohan, but I think he might be able to pull off a win here if he makes good use of his Kai Kai technique.

Gohan said he didn't look like an easy opponent, with a worried look on his face. I think he felt the need to transform before Kabito said anything. He made mention there he didn't like the idea of transforming since his costume was the whole point of hiding his identity (some of it was missing..). That tells me he planned on transforming for the fight originally. Plus, with a 50x multiplier here, I don't see what's wrong with putting Kabito 2-3x higher than Base Gohan. SSJ Gohan would then still be much stronger.

[DBZAOTA482]

Alright.. some pre-bedtime (lol) versus:

Kibito VS King Cold
[No blowing up of planets]

Nam VS Major Metallitron

Average Yardratian VS Yajirobe with sword (First appearance)

Drum VS 22nd WMAT Tenshinhan, Goku, Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Krillin
[No dodon ray/kamehameha/tribeam/evil containment wave]

East Kaioshin VS SSJ Goten
[No paralysis or materialization magic ]

1. King Cold wins pretty easily.

3. Yardration are far more technical and for them to use such technique they have some exceptional strength.

4. The latter could win if they work together.

5. East Kaioshin underestimates Goten and almost loses but wins in the end because SSJ Goten lacks technique.

[fadeddreams5]

Majin Buu (one who fought Majin Vegeta) vs. Janemba (infant)

Piccolo (when he fought 17) vs. Meta Cooler

Super 13 vs Android 16

Mecha General Tao vs Master Roshi (when he fought Tien)

Bojack and gang vs Perfect Cell at 100% (not Super Perfect Cell)

[RandomGuy96]

Majin Buu (one who fought Majin Vegeta) vs. Janemba (infant)

Piccolo (when he fought 17) vs. Meta Cooler

Super 13 vs Android 16

Mecha General Tao vs Master Roshi (when he fought Tenshinhan)

Bojack and gang vs Perfect Cell at 100% (not Super Perfect Cell)

Goku said Fat Janemba was stronger than Fat Buu. However, I think Buu would win with the Candy Beam. Janemba is an enormous target and wouldn't know to dodge/deflect it.

We already saw this. Cooler won.

According to Daizenshuu 7, Android 16 is stronger than Super Android 13. So he wins. Barely.

Probably Cyborg Tao.

The gang. Bojack was beating SS Gohan easily. So was Cell, but neither seemed to be in different dimensions than Gohan. I think they're equals. Cell would win one on one due to better skills, but Bojack's gang tips the scale in his favor here.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Majin Buu (one who fought Majin Vegeta) vs. Janemba (infant)

not sure what an infant Janemba is.

Piccolo (when he fought 17) vs. Meta Cooler

Coola blinks him out of existence.

Super 13 vs Android 16

16 easily.

Bojack and gang vs Perfect Cell at 100% (not Super Perfect Cell)

FP Bojack = FP Cell. Bojack and his gang take it with that wire stuff.

[voltlunok]

Majin Buu (one who fought Majin Vegeta) vs. Janemba (infant)

not sure what an infant Janemba is.

Janemba's large fat form. It's usually referred to by some as infant or baby Janemba.

[singsing]

Literally the first time I've ever heard of that.

[voltlunok]

Really? My local anime group and I, as well as others I know have always called fat Janemba, Baby Janemba.

Huh well ya learn new things everyday I guess!

[kuartus4]

Worn out Perfect Cell(post barrier) vs CG SSJ Vegeta

SSJ Pre-Majin Vegeta vs Power up Perfect Cell(real speed)

SSJ kid Trunks(pre roast) vs Buu arc Piccolo

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

1) Cell would easily win. When Goku's talking about a warrior stronger than Cell, Vegeta says no one else can win. So yes, even without a senzu, Cell would destroy Vegeta.
2) I think Super Saiyan Majin Vegeta has more than enough power to handle this version of Cell.
3) Not sure. Piccolo thought the kids were the planets only hope against Boo before he knew of the fusion technique. Piccolo would likely win.

[RandomGuy96]

1. Vegeta, for the reasons the guy above me brought up.
2. I think SS Vegeta can handle even full power Perfect Cell. True-speed Cell wasn't all that far above SS Gohan, who was as strong as SS Gohan in the Buu arc, who was weaker than SS Vegeta prior to the Majin spell, who was weaker than SS Vegeta after the Majin spell.
3. SS Trunks stomps Piccolo. While, technically speaking, there's nothing outright saying Piccolo is weaker than him, pretty much every bit of evidence which compares them directly or indirectly has SS Trunks with a very clear lead. His power-up made Piccolo panic, Piccolo said he and Goten were Earth's last hope (before he knew about fusion), he was able to give SS Vegeta trouble while Piccolo was piss-scared at the mere thought of fighting someone much weaker than SS Vegeta, etc.

[Angelus]

Majin Buu (one who fought Majin Vegeta) vs. Janemba (infant)

Piccolo (when he fought 17) vs. Meta Cooler

Super 13 vs Android 16

Mecha General Tao vs Master Roshi (when he fought Tenshinhan)

Bojack and gang vs Perfect Cell at 100% (not Super Perfect Cell)

It took a SSJ3 Goku to beat this Janemba. Same SSJ3 Goku that could have beaten Fat Buu. I'll go with Buu because Janemba is a bigger target and I don't think Janemba shown any attacks that could completely wipe out Buu.

It depends on where you place the Meta Cooler movie to be in. If you place it in the 10 days before the Cell Saga, then Cooler stomps. If not, then Piccolo stomps.

Android 16 was known to be the most powerful android of Gero, according to some guide.

I say Tao, based on Roshi's reaction to Tao's super dodon ray.

Bojack's gang. Those wire things plus you have Bojack already around Cell's level. Kogu gets one-shotted early on though.

Worn out Perfect Cell(post barrier) vs CG SSJ Vegeta

SSJ Pre-Majin Vegeta vs Power up Perfect Cell(real speed)

SSJ kid Trunks(pre roast) vs Buu arc Piccolo

Meh, still Cell. Cell was even confident with himself to let Goku take a senzu.

I'd say Vegeta. Goku even said that Cell wouldn't have been a problem during the Buu saga. Vegeta would be superior to Cell with just SSJ and still superior to SPC with SSJ2. Not by much but enough for a sure win, IMO.

Oh no, when was Trunks roasted? Kidding. I'd say Piccolo due to experience. SSJ Goten can't even control where his Ki shots go. And I'm one of those that think that Piccolo > the kids because of his clothing appearing on Super Buu when SSJ3 Gotenk's time ended... although that could just have been AT's artistic expression to signal that, obviously, the kids' fusion time was over. Also, if either kid Trunks or Goten was truly more powerful than Buu arc Piccolo, then they could have one-shotted #18 with a kick or a punch, the same way Buu arc Piccolo would be very much able to. Even if you consider Buu saga Piccolo to be as weak as Cell Games Future Trunks, that level of power can easily one-shot #18.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Oh no, when was Trunks roasted? Kidding. I'd say Piccolo due to experience. SSJ Goten can't even control where his Ki shots go. And I'm one of those that think that Piccolo > the kids because of his clothing appearing on Super Buu when SSJ3 Gotenk's time ended... although that could just have been AT's artistic expression to signal that, obviously, the kids' fusion time was over. Also, if either kid Trunks or Goten was truly more powerful than Buu arc Piccolo, then they could have one-shotted #18 with a kick or a punch, the same way Buu arc Piccolo would be very much able to. Even if you consider Buu saga Piccolo to be as weak as Cell Games Future Trunks, that level of power can easily one-shot #18.

To be fair, the only reason they didn't one-shot 18 is because they were in base, and in a restricting outfit. No one's trying to argue Base kids > Piccolo, just SSJ Kids > Piccolo. Also, Trunks almost did one-shot No.18 with not even his full power.

[Angelus]

But didn't they transform, which led to #18 recognizing them?