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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Majin Whis » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:59 pm

Here is my versus battle I am interested in at the moment.

Imagine you have three Gohan super buus vs One good Gohan Super Buu and all the rest of the pre-battle of gods era characters along his side. This includes movie villains and heroes and Frieza's army included. Every character is at their peak strength (expect Frieza will be nerfed to Namek saga power levels because I believe golden Frieza would still slaughter three Gohan super buu's) No fusions allowed expect Gotenks. No kid buu and only Mr. Buu for good Gohan super buu side.

Do you believe the three Gohan Buu's would get overwhelmed eventually?

I personally think a ton of weak characters are going to die by the boat load. Only the higher tier ones are even going to last for two seconds. That one Gohan buu on their side is only going to be able to do so much. I would think Janemba and Hirudegarn holding there own along with SSJ3 Goku. I think the Gohan buu's are eventually going to get over whelmed just by the sheer numbers. Bojack and LSSJ Broly and everyone else pounding the with their blasts in so much volume.

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Post by SuperSaiyan2 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:50 pm

Majin Whis wrote:Here is my versus battle I am interested in at the moment.

Imagine you have three Gohan super buus vs One good Gohan Super Buu and all the rest of the pre-battle of gods era characters along his side. This includes movie villains and heroes and Freeza's army included. Every character is at their peak strength (expect Freeza will be nerfed to Namek saga power levels because I believe golden Freeza would still slaughter three Gohan super buu's) No fusions allowed expect Gotenks. No kid buu and only Mr. Buu for good Gohan super buu side.

Do you believe the three Gohan Buu's would get overwhelmed eventually?

I personally think a ton of weak characters are going to die by the boat load. Only the higher tier ones are even going to last for two seconds. That one Gohan buu on their side is only going to be able to do so much. I would think Janemba and Hirudegarn holding there own along with SSJ3 Goku. I think the Gohan buu's are eventually going to get over whelmed just by the sheer numbers. Bojack and LSSJ Broly and everyone else pounding the with their blasts in so much volume.
Hildegarn would take the victory for the team on his own.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Majin Whis » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:01 am

Hildegarn would take the victory for the team on his own.
I doubt that considering a SSJ3 Goku killed Hiledarn with just a dragon fist. I believe his quiet a few steps behind the Gohan Buu's but can certainly hold his own ground. Once the buu's start teaming up on him at any point point during the battle without assistance Hilegarn is finished. Would be only a manner of time before the Gohan Buu's figure out his weakness since they have Piccolos mind.

Now I can realistically see Good Gohan Buu, Janemba, Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Goku doing the most damage. Giynu could possibly body sweep with one of the Gohan Buu's if he caught them off guard.

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Post by SuperSaiyan2 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:54 am

Majin Whis wrote:
Hildegarn would take the victory for the team on his own.
I doubt that considering a SSJ3 Goku killed Hiledarn with just a dragon fist. I believe his quiet a few steps behind the Gohan Buu's but can certainly hold his own ground. Once the buu's start teaming up on him at any point point during the battle without assistance Hilegarn is finished. Would be only a manner of time before the Gohan Buu's figure out his weakness since they have Piccolos mind.

Now I can realistically see Good Gohan Buu, Janemba, Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Goku doing the most damage. Giynu could possibly body sweep with one of the Gohan Buu's if he caught them off guard.
Super Saiyan 2 Goku was already ahead of Ultimate Gohan in M13, so Super Saiyan 3 would be 4x above even that going by official multipliers.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:36 am

Majin Whis wrote:
I doubt that considering a SSJ3 Goku killed Hiledarn with just a dragon fist. I believe his quiet a few steps behind the Gohan Buu's but can certainly hold his own ground. Once the buu's start teaming up on him at any point point during the battle without assistance Hilegarn is finished. Would be only a manner of time before the Gohan Buu's figure out his weakness since they have Piccolos mind.
SS3 goku in M13 was stronger than gohan buu. The only problem I have is that hildy may not be able to beat buu completely, and not being able to deal good damage to buu despite power advantage.


Now I can realistically see Good Gohan Buu, Janemba, Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Goku doing the most damage. Giynu could possibly body sweep with one of the Gohan Buu's if he caught them off guard.
Janemba is nowhere near gohan buu, but i think he's not a non factor. I will give this match to 3 buu team unless SS3 goku is M13 goku, where the match is completely reversed.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Majin Whis » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:00 am

Janemba is nowhere near gohan buu, but i think he's not a non factor. I will give this match to 3 buu team unless SS3 goku is M13 goku, where the match is completely reversed.
Yeah, everyone is at their peak strength even M13 Goku. So you think M13 SSJ3 and Good Super Buu can win against all three of them by themselves?

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:18 am

Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao

How do these ponytail-sporting beauties do against the Demon King?

Scenario #1: Chi-Chi fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #2: Tao fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #3: Chi-Chi fights Young Daimao alone with Kamehameha and Basho Fan as options

Scenario #4: Tao fights Young Daimao alone

Scenario #5: Chi-Chi and Tao fight Young Daimao together

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:37 am

Majin Whis wrote:
Janemba is nowhere near gohan buu, but i think he's not a non factor. I will give this match to 3 buu team unless SS3 goku is M13 goku, where the match is completely reversed.
Yeah, everyone is at their peak strength even M13 Goku. So you think M13 SSJ3 and Good Super Buu can win against all three of them by themselves?
I mean that M13 goku can kill a gohan buu by himself while "good gohan buu", janemba and hildy can handle the other 2 till goku recovers his energy.
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Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:39 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao

How do these ponytail-sporting beauties do against the Demon King?

Scenario #1: Chi-Chi fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #2: Tao fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #3: Chi-Chi fights Young Daimao alone with Kamehameha and Basho Fan as options

Scenario #4: Tao fights Young Daimao alone

Scenario #5: Chi-Chi and Tao fight Young Daimao together

Lunch (Blonde) vs. Ronda Rousey
-I think daimao wins all rounds. If she + Cyborg tao vs old daimao, then team wins.
-No idea. I think ronda
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:42 pm

Majin Whis wrote:Here is my versus battle I am interested in at the moment.

Imagine you have three Gohan super buus vs One good Gohan Super Buu and all the rest of the pre-battle of gods era characters along his side. This includes movie villains and heroes and Freeza's army included. Every character is at their peak strength (expect Freeza will be nerfed to Namek saga power levels because I believe golden Freeza would still slaughter three Gohan super buu's) No fusions allowed expect Gotenks. No kid buu and only Mr. Buu for good Gohan super buu side.

Do you believe the three Gohan Buu's would get overwhelmed eventually?

I personally think a ton of weak characters are going to die by the boat load. Only the higher tier ones are even going to last for two seconds. That one Gohan buu on their side is only going to be able to do so much. I would think Janemba and Hirudegarn holding there own along with SSJ3 Goku. I think the Gohan buu's are eventually going to get over whelmed just by the sheer numbers. Bojack and LSSJ Broly and everyone else pounding the with their blasts in so much volume.
99%/1% - The Gohan-Boo's are much too powerful to get overwhelmed by all that people. The best thing they could hope is for a distraction, long enough for a Genki Dama or a combination attack from their strongest fighters. Very difficult, all three Boo's would have to be caught up in the blast. The infinite power and regeneration pretty much seal this. If they at least got weaker and received damage, the probability would increase.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao

How do these ponytail-sporting beauties do against the Demon King?

Scenario #1: Chi-Chi fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #2: Tao fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #3: Chi-Chi fights Young Daimao alone with Kamehameha and Basho Fan as options

Scenario #4: Tao fights Young Daimao alone

Scenario #5: Chi-Chi and Tao fight Young Daimao together

Lunch (Blonde) vs. Ronda Rousey
0%/100% - The team loses in all scenarios. I don't have either of them close to Old Piccolo Daimao. The best they could hope is for a Super Dodompa to hit, which would cause some damage. Piccolo would just get mad he was damaged by some puny humans, murdering them grotesquely. I only have Kuririn and Tenshinhan stronger than Old Piccolo Daimao. That's a massive jump from the power in display during the 22nd TB.

10%/90% - Lunch was shown to be strong enough to defeat a RR soldier. She probably has the power to knockout Rousey. If she hits, she's got a chance. Otherwise Rousey, would just use her judo to bring Lunch down and dismantle her limb by limb.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:49 pm

New matches:

- SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Post RoSaT) x 2 Cell Juniors

- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc/No tail) x 1,000,000 Saibamen

- SSGSS Gogeta x Beerus & Champa
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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:10 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

- SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Post RoSaT) x 2 Cell Juniors

- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc/No tail) x 1,000,000 Saibamen

- SSGSS Gogeta x Beerus & Champa
- Even pre-ROSAT SSJ Goten and Trunks would be able to crush the Cell Jrs.
- I think the pure amount of Saibamen would eventually wear Vegeta down, and then a group of Saibamen jump on a fatigued Vegeta and blow themselves up and Vegeta is a goner.
- If it was just Beerus, I would have backed Gogeta. But throwing Champa just makes me believe that SSJB Gogeta would get overwhelmed.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:37 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

- SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Post RoSaT) x 2 Cell Juniors

- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc/No tail) x 1,000,000 Saibamen

- SSGSS Gogeta x Beerus & Champa
-Cell Juniors after a close math
-Too many Saibamen at once. Vegeta loses
-Beerus & Champoo
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Post by Pocket-God » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:53 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

- SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Post RoSaT) x 2 Cell Juniors

- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc/No tail) x 1,000,000 Saibamen

- SSGSS Gogeta x Beerus & Champa
Cell Juniors take it IMO

That's a shit ton of Saibamen, i don't think Vegeta can win on his own.

Gogeta probably, Just Vegeta and Goku working together should be able to beat Beerus(According to whis) and Champa is slightly below Beerus sooo yeah.

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Post by ThePiccolo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:42 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao

How do these ponytail-sporting beauties do against the Demon King?

Scenario #1: Chi-Chi fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #2: Tao fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #3: Chi-Chi fights Young Daimao alone with Kamehameha and Basho Fan as options

Scenario #4: Tao fights Young Daimao alone

Scenario #5: Chi-Chi and Tao fight Young Daimao together
I'd say Daimao takes these all. If Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao vs Old Daimao was an option, that would be the only one I'd say Daimao would lose.
Noah wrote:New matches:

- SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Post RoSaT) x 2 Cell Juniors

- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc/No tail) x 1,000,000 Saibamen

- SSGSS Gogeta x Beerus & Champa
- Imo, Cell Jrs stomp

- Vegeta can kill these guys in an instant, but 1 million will probably be too much.

- Gogeta would stomp

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:25 pm

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Post by Darkron2151 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:27 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Super ROF Gohan vs. GT Gohan

Who wins?
GT Gohan was stated to have kept up his training, so I doubt he lost any power since DBZ seeing his fight against Rildo. Add SSJ on top of that and skinny ROF Gohan has no chance (as if he had one before).

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:39 pm

Darkron2151 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Super ROF Gohan vs. GT Gohan

Who wins?
GT Gohan was stated to have kept up his training, so I doubt he lost any power since DBZ seeing his fight against Rildo. Add SSJ on top of that and skinny ROF Gohan has no chance (as if he had one before).
Agreed on this. Even if you want to argue that Gohan somehow lost his Ultimate for whatever reason...I don't see how he could be as pathetic as RF Gohan if he at least did some training.

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Post by Kaboom » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:17 pm

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Pui-Pui is a small fry and gets Yamcha'd by either of the Androids almost instantly. Then they can take their time with Yakon, who is a little bit ahead of either of them in power, but they can still bring down by working together. Especially if they get to absorb some ki from him.
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2. If Goku tries his hardest, he can vaporize the entire group at once with a big enough attack. Their only hope of victory would be to evade him until SS3 burns him out. But if being dead means that SS3 doesn't drain him as fast, then...
3. I don't think Freeza was quite that strong in his 1st form. In his final form, almost definitely, but not this one. He gets pwned unless he transforms.
4. Android 17 is a lot stronger than anyone from the Freeza family, and his infinite stamina means their numbers won't really matter and they're not going to wear him down. He takes his time and picks them apart.
5. Undetermined.
6. Could go either way unless No.19 manages to absorb a decent amount of ki and tip the scales. I think Cold is a little stronger but 19's more durable.
7. Goku will have a harder time but still win in the end. He's got a decent power advantage, and Freeza's still going to start burning himself out from using 100% before long.
8. Yamcha is stronger than Chaozu, but his anxiety around women causes problems with Videl around, and that tips the scales. Videl quickly overpowers her dad, then goes to indirectly lend Chaozu a hand, and they win.
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DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao
Lunch (Blonde) vs. Ronda Rousey
— My gut tells me that the scenario where Chi-Chi and Tao fight together is the only time they'll win.
— If Lunch is packing heat, then she can easily kill a normal-Earthling fighter. But without any weaponry, Lunch has no observable fighting skills of her own, and gets pummeled.
Noah wrote:- SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks (Post RoSaT) x 2 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc/No tail) x 1,000,000 Saibamen
- SSGSS Gogeta x Beerus & Champa
— They're similar in power, but the Juniors are much more direct and brutal than 2 goofy kids. Goten and Trunks probably lose.
— A million Saibaimen is far too many. Vegeta's going to get tired and overwhelmed after a few hundred, at most.
— No real answer, since we don't know if or how Fusion works with godly ki. But if it works anywhere close to how it normally does, then Gogeta ends up many times stronger than either Beerus or Champa and easily destroys them.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Super ROF Gohan vs. GT Gohan
Neither one of them is Goku, so somehow they both lose.
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DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi and Cyborg Tao (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao

How do these ponytail-sporting beauties do against the Demon King?

Scenario #1: Chi-Chi fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #2: Tao fights Elderly Daimao alone

Scenario #3: Chi-Chi fights Young Daimao alone with Kamehameha and Basho Fan as options

Scenario #4: Tao fights Young Daimao alone

Scenario #5: Chi-Chi and Tao fight Young Daimao together

Lunch (Blonde) vs. Ronda Rousey
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#2. Daimao stomps
#3. Daimao stomps
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