The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 am

PurestEvil wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:09 am
Noah wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:23 pm New match:

- Gokua vs. Semi Perfect Cell
Oh, Goku would beat him down just like what Vegeta did. This time he would not be inclined to let Cell become Perfect like a headass.
However, Semi Perfect Cell might have been able to blow himself up.....
He means the guy trunks killed in the BoJack movie

It's hard to gauge bojacks crew.
They seem weaker then cell jr's because trunks can one shot him whereas he was about even to jr.

They own the humans easier but the Jr's were playing around.

Base trunks wasn't instakilled but that's a consistent Toei bs thing with base form performance Vs ss1 especially in movies.

Piccolo never fought one he went straight to bojack.

Their energy bonds could be op hax like ki enzan or kikoho or shine TK.

They could very well vary in strength amongst themselves.

Cell needed to be smacked around wasn't quite one shot material BUT they also use the chamber a second time after Cell.

So I'm gonna say Gokua is stronger.
Cell might be able to win with skill and regeneration though.
We don't know how big the gap is...
Maybe Cells stronger... Not enough feats imo
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PurestEvil » Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:41 am

TobyS wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 am
PurestEvil wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:09 am
Noah wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:23 pm New match:

- Gokua vs. Semi Perfect Cell
Oh, Goku would beat him down just like what Vegeta did. This time he would not be inclined to let Cell become Perfect like a headass.
However, Semi Perfect Cell might have been able to blow himself up.....
He means the guy trunks killed in the BoJack movie

Huh. I never seen the film, so I can't exactly give input on that.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Alruneia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:51 am

This is going to be a crossover-y and strange question, but I keep seeing seemingly outlandish claims about this from time to time, so I have to ask.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:31 pm

Alruneia wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:51 am This is going to be a crossover-y and strange question, but I keep seeing seemingly outlandish claims about this from time to time, so I have to ask.
At her best, who's the strongest Dragon Ball character Sailor Moon could beat? Who's the weakest Dragon Ball character she couldn't beat? And why?
Haven't scaled Sailor Moon at all, but based on what I've heard and a little bit of speculating, I'd say she can confidently beat Omen tier characters. Wasn't her strongest enemy capable of universal feats of power? And she overpowered that quite easily in her max power. And ofc given how multipliers in DB (from the SSG feat) would imply multi-universal capabilities (no multiversal as folk seem to claim), I'd say she is above your average God of destruction.

At her best she can beat Moro arc Omen Goku (imo a step below Prime Moro, FP SS Broly and FP Jiren).

She loses to either of those 3. And potentially Beerus. MUI tier + is too strong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GatoF » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 pm

If perfect Cell trained for 4 months like Freeza did could he defeat any form of Majin Boo?

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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm

GatoF wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 pm If perfect Cell trained for 4 months like Freeza did could he defeat any form of Majin Boo?
Shouldnt Cell hypothetically have a higher potential than even Frieza? I feel as if Cell has barely scratched the potential of not just his power, but also the potential of having the DNA of Saiyans, as well as a Frieza race, and I believe could even achieve new forms or levels of power; that could be potential headcanon though, we do know that he's aware of zenkais and can even abuse them if he truly wanted to. I think he could defeat most if not all forms of Buu.



UI Omen Super Perfect Cell runs a gauntlet:

1. Super Vegito
2. BoG SSG Goku
3. SSB RoF Vegeta
4. SSR Goku Black and Zamasu (no immortality)
5. Hit (against Goku before the TOP)
6. SSBKKx20 Goku
7. Suppressed Jiren (against UIO Goku in episode 110)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:01 pm

Champa The Destroyer wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm
UI Omen Super Perfect Cell runs a gauntlet:

1. Super Vegito
2. BoG SSG Goku
3. SSB RoF Vegeta
4. SSR Goku Black and Zamasu (no immortality)
5. Hit (against Goku before the TOP)
6. SSBKKx20 Goku
7. Suppressed Jiren (against UIO Goku in episode 110)
So, basically a SS2 tier character with Sign. The technique allows the user to punch waaay above their weight, but it does have a limit. I think Super Vegito, who might be 50x stronger than SS3 (4x stronger than SS2) could lose, I'm not so sure about BoG SSG, though. I think the gap is just too big for the imperfect technique to be effective.
I'm also not so sure Sign grants such a gigantic boost for Cell to overcome Super Vegito.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:30 pm

ToP Golden Freeza vs. Hit. Fight to the death.
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Post by PurestEvil » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:35 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:30 pm ToP Golden Freeza vs. Hit. Fight to the death.
I don't think Freeza ever became stronger than time...
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:07 pm

PurestEvil wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:35 pm
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:30 pm ToP Golden Freeza vs. Hit. Fight to the death.
I don't think Freeza ever became stronger than time...
Freeza is smart, he can adapt to predict Hit's moves like Goku did.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PurestEvil » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:12 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:07 pm
PurestEvil wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:35 pm I don't think Freeza ever became stronger than time...
Freeza is smart, he can adapt to predict Hit's moves like Goku did.
Sure, he could, but all Hit would need to do is "improve" himself by skipping 1/2 a second to get the upper hand. Let's not forget that little time pocket thing-a-gummy Hit pulled on Jiren.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:51 pm

PurestEvil wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:12 pm
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:07 pm
PurestEvil wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:35 pm I don't think Freeza ever became stronger than time...
Freeza is smart, he can adapt to predict Hit's moves like Goku did.
Sure, he could, but all Hit would need to do is "improve" himself by skipping 1/2 a second to get the upper hand. Let's not forget that little time pocket thing-a-gummy Hit pulled on Jiren.
Still Freeza could possibly take him out before he does the time stasis move.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:55 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:30 pm ToP Golden Freeza vs. Hit. Fight to the death.
Hit almost rings out Jiren with this hax. I don't think Freeza can overcome the time skip or the time cage, he'd need to be at least x10 stronger than SSB like Goku was. Also, Vegeta is a fighting genius and still couldn't work out what Hit was doing, and Goku did so only because Jaco and the guy with many dicks told him about it.

Freeza would need to know before hand about the time skip and how it works, and that isn't really a warranty because SSBKKx10 still wasn't enough and he knew what was going on. It's an ability that to be negated, requires a higher tier than SSB. I'm going with Hit.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Peach » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:37 pm

GatoF wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 pm If perfect Cell trained for 4 months like Freeza did could he defeat any form of Majin Boo?
It's hard to say one way or another.

Cell has DNA from Piccolo, Goku, Nappa, Vegeta, Frieza, King Cold.

Vegeta trained for 7 years and wasn't strong enough to defeat Majin Buu. Piccolo wasn't either. Goku, only just barely after 7 years thanks to Super Saiyan 3. And Nappa? Give me a break lol.

He could have inherited Frieza's potential. But my gut tells me having so many other fighters apart of him "deludes" the Frieza within him and makes his gains from training more like the other fighters.
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:30 pm ToP Golden Freeza vs. Hit. Fight to the death.
Hit wins with that technique he used on Jiren

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Post by Peach » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Raditz vs. Tarble

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Post by Koitsukai » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm Raditz vs. Tarble
Tarble, somehow was fighting Ginyu Force tier characters. He was overwhelmed, of course, but found a way to survive. Raditz might be able to defeat a saibamen and that's it. I'm Team Tarble in this one.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:06 am

Koitsukai wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm
Peach wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm Raditz vs. Tarble
Tarble, somehow was fighting Ginyu Force tier characters. He was overwhelmed, of course, but found a way to survive. Raditz might be able to defeat a saibamen and that's it. I'm Team Tarble in this one.
Table was sent away for being weak so we can assume BoZ Table was weaker and later Tarble has trained or got zenkais.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:15 am

Sì Xīng Lóng (Nova Shenron) vs. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta

Who wins this battle?
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Post by Peach » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:40 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:15 am Sì Xīng Lóng (Nova Shenron) vs. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta

Who wins this battle?
Baby goes down hard and fast, crying all the way.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:46 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:15 am Sì Xīng Lóng (Nova Shenron) vs. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta

Who wins this battle?
There's huge power gap between those two arcs. Nuova kills Baby without any struggle really.
Also his ultimate move was overpowered as hell, it was actually able to kill Omega Shenron according to both of them.
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