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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sūpāsaiya » Thu May 09, 2019 1:08 pm

Goten Vs The World... :twisted:

1.Goten (Base/Tournament Saga) Vs 100% Frieza (No Strain/Namek Saga)
2.Goten (SSj/Pre Tournament) Vs ASSj Vegeta (No Strain/Cell Games)
3.Goten (Base/Post Rosat) Vs Android 18 (Z)
4.Goten (Base/Tournament) Vs Android 18 (Z)
5.Goten (SSj/Post Rosat) Vs FPSSj Goku (Cell Games)

Rules...

Everyone is bloodlusted, that's about it...

My Thoughts...

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Thu May 09, 2019 1:26 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:37 pm
p-hyvo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:29 pm
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 11:35 am
We all acknowledge Anilaza's great power, but do you guys think that he is kinda underrated for an opponent? Is it because his battle was shadowed by the expectations that everyone had for U11 v U7 ?

Anyway, here is a small debate which might be an easy one to decide on.

Anilaza (2nd Form) vs Goku (SSJB KK×5)
Is that early ToP Goku? This would be a tie. speaking about Goku (rematch with jiren) he would only need ssj3 to beat anilaza
Let us say, the same Blue Goku that fought Anilaza. Also, only SSJ3?! Do you think that Goku got that strong in the ToP? I always had it around 20 times for him and Vegeta. Their SSJBs from the end of the tournament, being equal to their maximum power from the beggining (in this case Goku's KK×20 as Vegeta wasn't using a form yet and Evolved Blue was initially as strong as KK×20 prior becoming a much stronger form, in my opinion).
Realistically, for what is shown it is not stupid to say ssb Goku (rematch with jiren)>=/> uio1
If you think of it , Goku was shown to be a lot stronger, competing with Jiren better than ever only in ssb
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Thu May 09, 2019 1:49 pm

p-hyvo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:26 pm
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:37 pm
p-hyvo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:29 pm

Is that early ToP Goku? This would be a tie. speaking about Goku (rematch with jiren) he would only need ssj3 to beat anilaza
Let us say, the same Blue Goku that fought Anilaza. Also, only SSJ3?! Do you think that Goku got that strong in the ToP? I always had it around 20 times for him and Vegeta. Their SSJBs from the end of the tournament, being equal to their maximum power from the beggining (in this case Goku's KK×20 as Vegeta wasn't using a form yet and Evolved Blue was initially as strong as KK×20 prior becoming a much stronger form, in my opinion).
Realistically, for what is shown it is not stupid to say ssb Goku (rematch with jiren)>=/> uio1
If you think of it , Goku was shown to be a lot stronger, competing with Jiren better than ever only in ssb
Yeah, which is also respected, but stupid, to say that Goku and Vegeta didn't get any stronger in the ToP. However, not very after, Jiren has somewhat powered-down (evident by Vegeta's question on why he was stronger and faster when he challenged Goku, referring probably to his initial fight with UIO) and even so wrecked both individuals in Blue.

It makes sense, yeah, but I am not sure if such an increase would be possible in such a little time, despite all the Saiyan Power both individuals possess. Which is why I use the ×20 over their Base forms, making them still kinda relevant to anything prior to the ToP. Freeza is in the mix as well.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ruler9871 » Fri May 10, 2019 1:27 pm

MUI Black (Scythe) vs Awakened Jiren
SSJ2 Enraged Kefla vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power)
Spirit Sword Trunks vs GoD Toppo
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs Aniraza
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs SSB Copy-Vegeta
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ2 Caulifla
True Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs A17 (ToP) & Full Speed Dsypo
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Fri May 10, 2019 5:18 pm

ruler9871 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 1:27 pm
MUI Black (Scythe) vs Awakened Jiren
SSJ2 Enraged Kefla vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power)
Spirit Sword Trunks vs GoD Toppo
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs Aniraza
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs SSB Copy-Vegeta
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ2 Caulifla
True Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs A17 (ToP) & Full Speed Dsypo
Jiren,ssj Broly, god Toppo, base vegetto, ssj2 vegeta, tgf
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat May 11, 2019 1:09 am

Melee_Sovereign wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 6:35 pm
Toppo vs Sidra
Kefla vs Broly
Kefla (base) vs Fusion Zamasu
Magetta vs Narirama
Buu vs Botamo
Buu vs Maji Kayo
Buu vs Arale
SSJ Trunks (DBS) vs SSJ Cabba
Mean Launch vs Cheelai
Mean Launch vs Chi Chi
Mean Launch vs Mai (DBS)
Cheelai vs Mai (DBS)
Jaco vs entire Red Ribbon Army (not including Tao)
10,000 Saibamen vs 1 Cell Jr.
Hypothetical Super Perfect Cell who trains for 4 month, achives Golden Form, SSB aura, and Ultra Instinct vs Jiren
Sidra.
Broly.
Kefla is only SSG level. Zamasu at his weakest is stronger than all SSB level fighters. Kefla dies.
Magetta.
Boo can just turn him into candy.
Majikayo since he gave SS Goku a fight.
Arale.
Trunks one shots.
Cheelai.
Chichi finger flicks.
Launch.
Cheelai.
I have Jaco stronger than 23rd TB Goku so he wins easily.
I think the Saibamen can wear down the Cell Jr eventually.
Jiren.
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Thu May 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Goten Vs The World... :twisted:

1.Goten (Base/Tournament Saga) Vs 100% Frieza (No Strain/Namek Saga)
2.Goten (SSj/Pre Tournament) Vs ASSj Vegeta (No Strain/Cell Games)
3.Goten (Base/Post Rosat) Vs Android 18 (Z)
4.Goten (Base/Tournament) Vs Android 18 (Z)
5.Goten (SSj/Post Rosat) Vs FPSSj Goku (Cell Games)

Rules...

Everyone is bloodlusted, that's about it...
Goten loses all of them in seconds.
ruler9871 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 1:27 pm
MUI Black (Scythe) vs Awakened Jiren
SSJ2 Enraged Kefla vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power)
Spirit Sword Trunks vs GoD Toppo
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs Aniraza
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs SSB Copy-Vegeta
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ2 Caulifla
True Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs A17 (ToP) & Full Speed Dsypo
Close but Black wins in the end.
Kefla powers down to SS and finger flicks.
Trunks with mid difficulty.
Aniraza still wins.
Commeson Vegeta finger flicks.
Vegeta can't win this.
Freeza still loses to Dyspo's speed.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Sat May 11, 2019 6:22 pm

Sūpāsaiya wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Goten Vs The World... :twisted:

1.Goten (Base/Tournament Saga) Vs 100% Frieza (No Strain/Namek Saga)
2.Goten (SSj/Pre Tournament) Vs ASSj Vegeta (No Strain/Cell Games)
3.Goten (Base/Post Rosat) Vs Android 18 (Z)
4.Goten (Base/Tournament) Vs Android 18 (Z)
5.Goten (SSj/Post Rosat) Vs FPSSj Goku (Cell Games)
Freeza own the kid massivly. Base BoG Goku is weaker than 100% Freeza.
Vegeta, even if the Daiz is right about him being equal to weakened Gohan, Weakened Gohan has probably dropped down the Cell games other saiyans. Regardless Vegetas experience probably wins it.
18 owns the base kids combined. They didn't get too much stronger imo, the idea was any gain would benefit from the fusin and super saiyan multipiers.
18 owns him even harder.
Depends on the whole Goten=Gohan Daiz statement. Going by that he's stronger in raw ki. But either way Gokus skill probably puts him ahead even post rosat.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJgogeto » Sun May 12, 2019 4:01 pm

Anilaza (2nd Form) vs Goku (SSJB KK×5) - Anilaza.

1.Goten (Base/Tournament Saga) Vs 100% Frieza (No Strain/Namek Saga) - Frieza
2.Goten (SSj/Pre Tournament) Vs ASSj Vegeta (No Strain/Cell Games) - Vegeta
3.Goten (Base/Post Rosat) Vs Android 18 (Z) - Android 18
4.Goten (Base/Tournament) Vs Android 18 (Z) - Android 18
5.Goten (SSj/Post Rosat) Vs FPSSj Goku (Cell Games) - Goku

MUI Black (Scythe) vs Awakened Jiren - Black
SSJ2 Enraged Kefla vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power) - Kefla
Spirit Sword Trunks vs GoD Toppo - Toppo
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs Aniraza - Aniraza
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs SSB Copy-Vegeta - C-Vegeta
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ2 Caulifla - Kale, Cabba & Caulifla
True Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs A17 (ToP) & Full Speed Dsypo - 17 & Dyspo

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MainJPW » Mon May 13, 2019 6:42 pm

Sūpāsaiya wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Goten Vs The World... :twisted:

1.Goten (Base/Tournament Saga) Vs 100% Frieza (No Strain/Namek Saga)
2.Goten (SSj/Pre Tournament) Vs ASSj Vegeta (No Strain/Cell Games)
3.Goten (Base/Post Rosat) Vs Android 18 (Z)
4.Goten (Base/Tournament) Vs Android 18 (Z)
5.Goten (SSj/Post Rosat) Vs FPSSj Goku (Cell Games)

Rules...


Everyone is bloodlusted, that's about it...

My Thoughts...
Goten literally loses every single round.
Goten (Base/Tournament Saga) Vs 100% Frieza (No Strain/Namek Saga)
Base Saiyans are weaker than Namek Freeza according to BoG.
Melee_Sovereign wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 6:35 pm
Toppo vs Sidra
Kefla vs Broly
Kefla (base) vs Fusion Zamasu
Magetta vs Narirama
Buu vs Botamo
Buu vs Maji Kayo
Buu vs Arale
SSJ Trunks (DBS) vs SSJ Cabba
Mean Launch vs Cheelai
Mean Launch vs Chi Chi
Mean Launch vs Mai (DBS)
Cheelai vs Mai (DBS)
Jaco vs entire Red Ribbon Army (not including Tao)
10,000 Saibamen vs 1 Cell Jr.
Hypothetical Super Perfect Cell who trains for 4 month, achives Golden Form, SSB aura, and Ultra Instinct vs Jiren
1. Toppo.
2. I guess that’s Super Broli? Broli.
3. Zamasu stomps.
4. Magetta.
5. Boo via magic.
6. Maji Kayo.
7. Arale.
8. Trunks.
9. Cheelai has no feats. Lunch at least threw Kuririn a few hundred feet into the distance that one time after beating the shit out of a bear guy and one-shotted a RR soldier.
10. Chi-Chi oneshots.
11. Probably Mai with her weaponry.
12. Idk.
13. Jaco would fodderize the team even with Tao Pai Pai.
14. Cell Jr AOE’s or blitzes. Pick one.
15. Why do people think Cell can go golden? He’s not a Freeza race.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Tue May 14, 2019 10:44 am

Toppo vs Sidra
God mode Toppo maaaaybe otherwise sidra.
He's the weakest god and you need UI or Jiren to beat any god but that statement was made before god toppo or Bluegeta appeared....

Kefla vs Broly
Manga Kefla loses, not sure on anime who needed omen to win. Maybe Beats base broly but loses to final.

Kefla (base) vs Fusion Zamasu
Kefla loses. Even if she was stronger she loses to immortality.

Magetta vs Narirama
Magetta is Mari doesn't know his weakness.
17 slapped the shit out of him in the anime, I can't remember him getting a better showing in the manga.

Buu vs Botamo
To the death? Buu can outlive him or throw him into a sun or magic him dead somehow. Maybe even absorb him.

Buu vs Maji Kayo
Anime Maji is implied to be real strong, can't remember his manga showing. Anime maji wins

Buu vs Arale
Gag powered Arale wins.
Feats is Buu by scaling.

SSJ Trunks (DBS) vs SSJ Cabba
Trunks in both continuities

Mean Launch vs Cheelai
Cheelai still got accepted in FF. Space tier is above earth teir.

Mean Launch vs Chi Chi
Chichi wrecks.

Mean Launch vs Mai (DBS)
Damn this is a close match, I'd say Lunch is more vicious than skilled, I'd say Mai is more accurate with guns. Not sure about h2h.

Cheelai vs Mai (DBS)
Cheelai

Jaco vs entire Red Ribbon Army (not including Tao)
Jaco from - era loses. People miss a scaling statement when Roshi says he wouldn't have the stamina to take out the whole army, so it'd take a post water Goku to do it. Jaco can only handle toddler Goku by his own admission.

10,000 Saibamen vs 1 Cell Jr.
10k is a really big number, either a combine chi blast if they can fire chi or Jr exhausts himself. Cell Jr can win with hit and run or destroy the planet and survive in space either way so cell Jr wins ultimately.

Hypothetical Super Perfect Cell who trains for 4 month, achives Golden Form, SSB aura, and Ultra Instinct vs Jiren
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A golden/blue tier fighter already is better than Jiren so yeah. Cell. Even if it wears off Cell would be better at fighting wounded Jiren IMO.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Post by p-hyvo » Tue May 14, 2019 11:05 am

TobyS wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:44 am
Toppo vs Sidra
God mode Toppo maaaaybe otherwise sidra.
He's the weakest god and you need UI or Jiren to beat any god but that statement was made before god toppo or Bluegeta appeared....

Kefla vs Broly
Manga Kefla loses, not sure on anime who needed omen to win. Maybe Beats base broly but loses to final.

Kefla (base) vs Fusion Zamasu
Kefla loses. Even if she was stronger she loses to immortality.

Magetta vs Narirama
Magetta is Mari doesn't know his weakness.
17 slapped the shit out of him in the anime, I can't remember him getting a better showing in the manga.

Buu vs Botamo
To the death? Buu can outlive him or throw him into a sun or magic him dead somehow. Maybe even absorb him.

Buu vs Maji Kayo
Anime Maji is implied to be real strong, can't remember his manga showing. Anime maji wins

Buu vs Arale
Gag powered Arale wins.
Feats is Buu by scaling.

SSJ Trunks (DBS) vs SSJ Cabba
Trunks in both continuities

Mean Launch vs Cheelai
Cheelai still got accepted in FF. Space tier is above earth teir.

Mean Launch vs Chi Chi
Chichi wrecks.

Mean Launch vs Mai (DBS)
Damn this is a close match, I'd say Lunch is more vicious than skilled, I'd say Mai is more accurate with guns. Not sure about h2h.

Cheelai vs Mai (DBS)
Cheelai

Jaco vs entire Red Ribbon Army (not including Tao)
Jaco from - era loses. People miss a scaling statement when Roshi says he wouldn't have the stamina to take out the whole army, so it'd take a post water Goku to do it. Jaco can only handle toddler Goku by his own admission.

10,000 Saibamen vs 1 Cell Jr.
10k is a really big number, either a combine chi blast if they can fire chi or Jr exhausts himself. Cell Jr can win with hit and run or destroy the planet and survive in space either way so cell Jr wins ultimately.

Hypothetical Super Perfect Cell who trains for 4 month, achives Golden Form, SSB aura, and Ultra Instinct vs Jiren
A golden/blue tier fighter already is better than Jiren so yeah. Cell. Even if it wears off Cell would be better at fighting wounded Jiren IMO.
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Really,tbh sidra had acknowledge that ssb Goku when he first challenged Toppo was a rival for him,and he was scared by golden freezer and even said he would be a better hakaishin than him.
So yeah, already base Toppo beats sidra
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Post by Zamasu55 » Wed May 15, 2019 11:15 am

ruler9871 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 1:27 pm
MUI Black (Scythe) vs Awakened Jiren
SSJ2 Enraged Kefla vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS, not full power)
Spirit Sword Trunks vs GoD Toppo
Base Vegito (DBS Broly) vs Aniraza
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs SSB Copy-Vegeta
SSJ2 Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ1 Kale, SSJ2 Cabba & SSJ2 Caulifla
True Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs A17 (ToP) & Full Speed Dsypo
- Jiren.
- Kefla stomps, her attacks could've killed UI Omen Goku, Broly isn't gonna survive that.
- Toppo.
- Stalemate.
- Copy-Vegeta easily.
- Three vs one, Vegeta loses.
- Dyspo solos.

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Post by Melee_Sovereign » Wed May 15, 2019 12:14 pm

MainJPW wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 6:42 pm

15. Why do people think Cell can go golden? He’s not a Freeza race.
He is, partially.

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Post by Nokra » Thu May 16, 2019 11:36 pm

Melee_Sovereign wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 12:14 pm
MainJPW wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 6:42 pm

15. Why do people think Cell can go golden? He’s not a Freeza race.
He is, partially.
That doesn't mean he can go gold though. He can't use super saiyan either and he has those genes.

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Post by Melee_Sovereign » Thu May 16, 2019 11:51 pm

Nokra wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 11:36 pm

He can't use super saiyan either and he has those genes.
He kinda can though. He gets the aura, and he gets an upgraded version with the electrical sparks.

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Post by ruler9871 » Fri May 17, 2019 11:36 am

Nokra wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 11:36 pm
Melee_Sovereign wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 12:14 pm
MainJPW wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 6:42 pm

15. Why do people think Cell can go golden? He’s not a Freeza race.
He is, partially.
That doesn't mean he can go gold though. He can't use super saiyan either and he has those genes.
Super Perfect Cell was his version of SSJ2
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Post by Noah » Sat May 18, 2019 9:52 am

New match:

- LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) x Manga Zamasu
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Post by p-hyvo » Sat May 18, 2019 10:53 am

Noah wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:52 am
New match:

- LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) x Manga Zamasu
Broly.
Manga present zamasu is weak even compared to buu saga meta, while broly is stronger than anyone in z according to the movie producer
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Post by SSJgogeto » Sat May 18, 2019 6:40 pm

LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) x Manga Zamasu - Future Zamasu probably wins, present Zamasu loses

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Sat May 18, 2019 8:25 pm

Noah wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:52 am
New match:

- LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) x Manga Zamasu
Manga Zamasu struggled against Kibito. But if he's immortal, Broly cannot win.

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