Piccolo's Revival - Combining 2 wishes into 1?

[Gonstead]

So I was thinking...

Wouldn't it be possible if Gohan and Krillin asked Porunga to revive Piccolo on Namek instead of using 1 wish for reviving and the second to transport him to Namek?

If worded correctly, this would have given them 2 extra wishes.

What do you think?

[Saiga]

Well, it was Piccolo's idea in the first place and it was already an utterly stupid idea, so I don't think you can expect him to think of a way to word it as one wish.

[Gonstead]

Piccolo: Wish me back to life on Namek

In that, your having him revived alongside transporting him to Namek. Pretty simple IMO.

[Hitiro]

Piccolo: Wish me back to life on Namek

In that, your having him revived alongside transporting him to Namek. Pretty simple IMO.

I don't think that would work, it's the same reason why bringing back Krillin was split into two wishes. Krillin died on Namek so to make sure he came back to Earth because Namek had been destroyed they wished him to Earth's check-in station before reviving him. I don't think the dragons can do two different tasks at the same time. However, the dragons seem to be capable of reproducing the same wish with variations in one wish. Such as the wish they used to bring Krillin to Earth's check-in station also included Goku but he wasn't dead so that part of the wish was Null. Perhaps it depends on how powerful the wish which will determine whether you can squeeze more than one wish into it. Subsequently Porunga could only bring back one person at a time so there are rules to the types of wishes the dragon can grant in succession. Though Porunga does get an upgrade in the Buu Saga for bringing back more than one person to for a single wish. I guess a wish like moving somebody across thousands of light years while bringing them back to life at the same time is just too powerful a wish for the dragons to grant.

[Michsi]

No matter how you word it, the meaning of the sentence implies 2 wishes. I don't think Porunga wouldn't catch on

Well, it was Piccolo's idea in the first place and it was already an utterly stupid idea, so I don't think you can expect him to think of a way to word it as one wish.

His stupid idea saved everyone.

[Hitiro]

No matter how you word it, the meaning of the sentence implies 2 wishes. I don't think Porunga wouldn't catch on

Well, it was Piccolo's idea in the first place and it was already an utterly stupid idea, so I don't think you can expect him to think of a way to word it as one wish.

His stupid idea saved everyone.

He would catch on but like I said it depends on the wish, he obviously had to take his power into consideration when he's granting wishes. If you ask him to bring back more than one person in a single wish pre-buu saga he wouldn't be able to because his power isn't strong enough for that wish. If you ask him to move two or more people across the universe to another planet in a single wish he can. It all depends on how costly it is to him.

We know he has no problem moving more than one spirit to different check-in stations because, if Goku were dead, he would have fulfilled the wish to bring both Krillin and Goku back to Earth's check-in station. So obviously that doesn't require that much power. But trying to get him to bring back a person and then summon them to another planet exceeds his power of a single wish, it might be possible by Shenron because he has the power to bring back everyone on a planet. Because naturally if he can bring that many people back at once then bringing back a single person and moving them is easy. Unfortunately we know Porunga at the time couldn't exceed bringing back more than one person so that was obviously his limit for having the ability of three wishes plus the unlimited bring backs for a single person. As long as the sum of the tasks in the wish do not exceed the power of that wish he's fine.

[Saiga]

Well, it was Piccolo's idea in the first place and it was already an utterly stupid idea, so I don't think you can expect him to think of a way to word it as one wish.

His stupid idea saved everyone.

Only because he fused with Nail, which wasn't his idea.

[Michsi]

Only because he fused with Nail, which wasn't his idea.

But getting on Namek was his idea and he couldn't have fused with Nail otherwise.

He would catch on but like I said it depends on the wish, he obviously had to take his power into consideration when he's granting wishes. If you ask him to bring back more than one person in a single wish pre-buu saga he wouldn't be able to because his power isn't strong enough for that wish. If you ask him to move two or more people across the universe to another planet in a single wish he can. It all depends on how costly it is to him.

We know he has no problem moving more than one spirit to different check-in stations because, if Goku were dead, he would have fulfilled the wish to bring both Krillin and Goku back to Earth's check-in station. So obviously that doesn't require that much power. But trying to get him to bring back a person and then summon them to another planet exceeds his power of a single wish, it might be possible by Shenron because he has the power to bring back everyone on a planet. Because naturally if he can bring that many people back at once then bringing back a single person and moving them is easy. Unfortunately we know Porunga at the time couldn't exceed bringing back more than one person so that was obviously his limit for having the ability of three wishes plus the unlimited bring backs for a single person. As long as the sum of the tasks in the wish do not exceed the power of that wish he's fine.

I think this one wish per dead person rule is limited to this particular wish. Dende stated that namakians are generally against this so it stands to reason they'd somehow want to keep people from abusing that wish. On the other hand, he healed Kuririn's wounds when he brough him back on his own so I don't think it's related to his power, but to the keeping to the rules.

[Saiga]

Only because he fused with Nail, which wasn't his idea.

But getting on Namek was his idea and he couldn't have fused with Nail otherwise.

But his idea was still stupid, because he hadn't counted on that. That's all I'm saying.

[Michsi]

But his idea was still stupid, because he hadn't counted on that. That's all I'm saying.

Unless , of course, he could have actually made a difference against Freeza even without fusing, which we once debated before.

Yes, putting himself in harms way when so many depended on Shenlong might not have been the right thing to do, but aside from Gohan and Goku , I seriously doubt he particullary cared about anybody else.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I don't think wording two wishes into one would work, because Shenlong or Porunga would realize that it would still require the power of two wishes, since "Wish me back to life on Namek" still requires the Dragon God to revive them and transport them to Namek.