What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rivals?

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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:03 am

And I disagree because never such a thing happened in Dr. Slump.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by Friezacooler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:49 pm

how is vegito fighting as a candy beam not a gag? and Arale jumping through dimensions and cutting/ folding realms means dr slump with prep and Arale could hold their own against most of the dragonball verse.

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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by rereboy » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:39 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:And I disagree because never such a thing happened in Dr. Slump.
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Jeez, what I'm trying to say is that is no defined power or rules in gag manga. Everything happens without being bound by coherence or logic.

Just because a a gag character beats another gag character and the defeated character is never shown to defeat the winner after that, it doesn't mean that within that gag universe the defeated character couldn't possibly defeat him. That logic only applies to more serious manga. In gag manga pretty much anything can happen.

You are extrapolating hard power rules from a gag manga like you would from a shonen manga, and it simply doesn't work like that. A gag manga has no hard rules about power or about anything else.

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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by xmysticgohanx » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:24 pm

Friezacooler wrote:how is vegito fighting as a candy beam not a gag? and Arale jumping through dimensions and cutting/ folding realms means dr slump with prep and Arale could hold their own against most of the dragonball verse.
Sorry to bump but I'm reading DBM and I wanted to know how strong Arale is; If she can cut realms doesn't that put her at Super Buu level? I know she is a gag character driven by plot but what's the strongest her manga portrayed her?
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by Pantalones » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:39 pm

If she can cut realms doesn't that put her at Super Buu level?
Not necessarily. The weakest character we see busting through to other dimensions just by screaming is Super Buu, but that doesn't mean someone far below that level couldn't do something similar. It just would take more than just screaming for them to tear a hole between realms.

(Plus, that's the sort of thing that probably isn't always determined by raw power. If a character just happened to have abilities along those lines, being able to tear open holes between dimensions shouldn't require some absurdly obnoxiously high power level. Kinda like how different methods of flight don't seem to require the same ki investment--Piccolo could fly without wearing himself out at all at the start of the Saiyan saga, while Goku relied on his cloud because flying tired him out too fast... and Goku was slightly stronger at this point in the series, so it definitely wasn't due to a difference in power. And later on in the Saiyan saga Goku still gets somewhat exhausted by flying long distances, even when he's way stronger than he was at the beginning of the series.)

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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by FoolsGil » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:39 pm

Dr. Slump is a gag manga. DBZ is an action shonen. The genres themselves explain what would or would not happen if Arale meets Freeza or Buu-In a gag manga, she would crush them. In an action shonen, it's obviously in reverse. In a way, you can say that when Goku stopped by Penguin Village, It wasn't Arale cameoing in Dragonball, it was Goku cameoing in Dr. Slump. Either way, Arale's strength depends on what genre she is in, otherwise, Arale would've came after Super Buu sometime after his Human Extincition attack.

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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:51 pm

Because Buu would have destroyed Arale. In fact, he most likely did when he destroyed Earth (at the latest). Gag logic does not make a character invincible; there were beings within Dr. Slump that were stronger than Arale.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:35 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Because Buu would have destroyed Arale. In fact, he most likely did when he destroyed Earth (at the latest). Gag logic does not make a character invincible; there were beings within Dr. Slump that were stronger than Arale.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival

Post by FoolsGil » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:36 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Gag logic does not make a character invincible;
Sure it does. Roger Rabbit said something about Toons only capable of extraordinary things when it's funny, and nothing is funnier than a little robot girl "wrestling" up a giant piece of talking gum that should be capable of stopping her. But in a serious show like DBZ, yeah you're right Arale would be creamed. But if Buu pulled the same crap in Dr Slump, well...

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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rivals?

Post by Akirale Torimaki » Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:02 pm

Considering this thread seems to have ended in 2014 (long before Dragon Ball Super Episode 69), I figured I, a massive Dr. Slump fan, would throw in my two cents.
If we were to take into account what we witnessed in Dragon Ball Super Episode 69 in that Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Super Saiyan Blue) Son Goku doubted his ability to beat Arale Norimaki, than it’s fair to say that any being in Dragon Ball-Dragon Ball Z would be clapped HARD by Arale.
By the way, she isn’t even the strongest character in Dr. Slump (as some of you pointed out).
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rivals?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:29 pm

Akirale Torimaki wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:02 pm Considering this thread seems to have ended in 2014 (long before Dragon Ball Super Episode 69), I figured I, a massive Dr. Slump fan, would throw in my two cents.
If we were to take into account what we witnessed in Dragon Ball Super Episode 69 in that Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Super Saiyan Blue) Son Goku doubted his ability to beat Arale Norimaki, than it’s fair to say that any being in Dragon Ball-Dragon Ball Z would be clapped HARD by Arale.
By the way, she isn’t even the strongest character in Dr. Slump (as some of you pointed out).
Wasn't Beerus shown to be effectively untouchable to her in that episode?
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rivals?

Post by Akirale Torimaki » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:52 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:29 pm
Akirale Torimaki wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:02 pm Considering this thread seems to have ended in 2014 (long before Dragon Ball Super Episode 69), I figured I, a massive Dr. Slump fan, would throw in my two cents.
If we were to take into account what we witnessed in Dragon Ball Super Episode 69 in that Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Super Saiyan Blue) Son Goku doubted his ability to beat Arale Norimaki, than it’s fair to say that any being in Dragon Ball-Dragon Ball Z would be clapped HARD by Arale.
By the way, she isn’t even the strongest character in Dr. Slump (as some of you pointed out).
Wasn't Beerus shown to be effectively untouchable to her in that episode?
One could argue, and if he can beat Arale, that can mean other Gods of Destruction, and by proxy their angels, the Grand Priest, and Zeno can take her out…hell with Zeno no amount of gaggery can save Arale…
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rivals?

Post by TobyS » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:46 pm

I think DB earth being different to slump earth means they are two different arales.

So slump arale wins through sheer power or gags.
DB arale caps out at I dunno Piccolo Sr. Perhaps gagforce is weaker in DB universe than slumps.
They never send her out despite the fact they'd have seen piccolo Cell and Buu and the future androids on TV in penguin village but she never shows up.
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