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Would the humans accept being turned into Androids?
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I think Krillin would give it a thought.
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Re: Would the humans accept being turned into Androids?
This is a fascinating scenario.
I'm sure Krillin would ask his wife for her advice on the matter. But that leads me to something else I've always wondered: Do Androids 17 and 18 have any memory of their lives before Dr. Gero got his hooks into them? They never make any mention of it, and post-Cell Games they keep their Android #s instead of using human names. I think Gero probably wiped their memories. Of course, that wouldn't be strictly necessary, so I think Krillin and especially Yamcha would be very open to the idea. Tien would never go for it.
I'm sure Krillin would ask his wife for her advice on the matter. But that leads me to something else I've always wondered: Do Androids 17 and 18 have any memory of their lives before Dr. Gero got his hooks into them? They never make any mention of it, and post-Cell Games they keep their Android #s instead of using human names. I think Gero probably wiped their memories. Of course, that wouldn't be strictly necessary, so I think Krillin and especially Yamcha would be very open to the idea. Tien would never go for it.
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Yeah, I think Gero wiped #17 and #18's memories because, despite them hating Gero for turning them into cyborgs, they still refer to each other by their Android numbers. However, this presumably would've been done manually, since #20 clearly remembers that he was Gero and made the Androids.
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I'm sure Mr Satan would. As long as he was assured everything would still "function."
Kuririn: Sure. It really doesn't seem to affect them much, if #18 could still have a child.
Videl: I'm not sure... she's kind of proud.
Tenshinhan and Chaozu: Possibly, but only if they thought it the only way to save the other.
Yamucha: See "Mr Satan."
Kuririn: Sure. It really doesn't seem to affect them much, if #18 could still have a child.
Videl: I'm not sure... she's kind of proud.
Tenshinhan and Chaozu: Possibly, but only if they thought it the only way to save the other.
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I agree with this theory. It's kind of a shame we never saw their past be explained or discovered by them.Piccolo Daimao wrote:Yeah, I think Gero wiped #17 and #18's memories because, despite them hating Gero for turning them into cyborgs, they still refer to each other by their Android numbers. However, this presumably would've been done manually, since #20 clearly remembers that he was Gero and made the Androids.
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The problem is Gero is dead, so who's going to remodel them into Artifical Humans?
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Re: Would the humans accept being turned into Androids?
Yamcha wouldn't, hes too much of a ladies man, Tien wouldn't due to pride, Krillin wouldn't because he has a family
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As I said in the opening post, Bulma.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:The problem is Gero is dead, so who's going to remodel them into Artifical Humans?
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I agree with most that I'd only see them go through with something like this if it were absolutely necessary, the same way Piccolo and the Saiyans agreed with the fusion only because there was no other option . Otherwise no, especially Tenshinhan, who I see turning it down out of honour, like people here have already mentioned. Yamcha and Krillin may not be as averse to the idea as I imagine Ten would be but I still don't see them agreeing to it. Their answer may also depend on when they would be faced with this opportunity. For instance, I can imagine Yamcha seriously considering this in the Android Saga where he seemed to be a little saddened about his inability to help. On the other hand, in the Buu Saga, he appeared to have retired form fighting alltogether and seemed somewhat at peace with that.
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Bulma is not that genius like Gero was. She wouldn't know how to build an infinite reactor for them anyway.Saiga wrote:As I said in the opening post, Bulma.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:The problem is Gero is dead, so who's going to remodel them into Artifical Humans?
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Yeah, I do remember her being astonished by how complex the technology for the androids/Artificial Humans were.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Bulma is not that genius like Gero was. She wouldn't know how to build an infinite reactor for them anyway.Saiga wrote:As I said in the opening post, Bulma.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:The problem is Gero is dead, so who's going to remodel them into Artifical Humans?
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Re: Would the humans accept being turned into Androids?
Excuse me for going off topic here but one thing about the androids I've always had my doubts about.
The infinite energy reactor/battery/suply or whatever.
Does it really mean eternal youth? I always thought of it meaning they never get tired or something. Where did the idea of eternal youth come from?
Ok so before posting I went to check the Daizenshuu translations on Kanzentai.
So are there any statements made in the story itself about the energy engines of these two androids?
The infinite energy reactor/battery/suply or whatever.
Does it really mean eternal youth? I always thought of it meaning they never get tired or something. Where did the idea of eternal youth come from?
Ok so before posting I went to check the Daizenshuu translations on Kanzentai.
Kanzentai on #17 wrote:Equipped with an eternal energy engine, he never tires out.
Again, on one hand it's nothing more than an eternal energy engine but on the other hand it somehow grants eternal youth.Kanzentai on #18 wrote:She's the mightiest of wives: extremely beautiful, strong, and eternally youthful.
So are there any statements made in the story itself about the energy engines of these two androids?
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Blooma, the women who in 17 years built a highly advanced time machine during a post apocalyptic future that can essentially create new dimensions, can't make copy the designs of the androids to use on her friends....?
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Which is why I said, in the opening post, what if Bulma had figured it out?DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Bulma is not that genius like Gero was. She wouldn't know how to build an infinite reactor for them anyway.Saiga wrote:As I said in the opening post, Bulma.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:The problem is Gero is dead, so who's going to remodel them into Artifical Humans?
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I wonder if Sheron can give them back their memories. I guess he theoretically could since he wiped the memory of Buu from Earth.
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I see Bulma doing it to herself, so she can finally join in on the fighting.
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But she never showed the desire or attitude to fight...ever. She never displayed any characteristic to imply she would want to become a warrior. She always chose intellectual or savvy approaches and seemed content with just that.mister yummy wrote:I see Bulma doing it to herself, so she can finally join in on the fighting.
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I do not think the Z warriors accepted willingly, dr Gero transformed their bodies with mechanical parts. The Z warriors have the "Warrior Pride", whose ethics are above the possibilities of power.
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I don't see any of them doing it at all. I can't think of a scenario where they would need it, like a few of you have suggested. The Saiyans are already stronger than the androids (okay, maybe not Goten and Trunks but if they needed to if, say, Gohan, Uub, Mr. Boo and Goku died, I think they'd train). So what could kill all of the Saiyans, Uub, Mr. Boo and #18 but still be weak enough to be killed by a suped-up Krillin? I just can't see that happening I guess.
But ignoring that, I feel pride would take a massive place in it. Look how long they've trained for. Even Yamcha is hundreds of times stronger than any normal Earthling through his own doing. I just can't see them wanting it - especially Tenshinhan.
As for Bulma, she's not the fighting type. Even if she did it to herself, she has no fighting ability at all, so it wouldn't be that helpful. Videl...nope. No reason to, and then there's the pride thing. Chi-Chi same again. She's not a fighter anymore.
As for Mr Satan...he actually has some morals. Especially at the end of Z, with the families joining together in that way, he seems to respect the guys. Plus, he's an old geezer by then really, there's little need for him to have it. Plus, if he wanted to, I'm sure one of the guys could teach him how to fly or whatever.
But ignoring that, I feel pride would take a massive place in it. Look how long they've trained for. Even Yamcha is hundreds of times stronger than any normal Earthling through his own doing. I just can't see them wanting it - especially Tenshinhan.
As for Bulma, she's not the fighting type. Even if she did it to herself, she has no fighting ability at all, so it wouldn't be that helpful. Videl...nope. No reason to, and then there's the pride thing. Chi-Chi same again. She's not a fighter anymore.
As for Mr Satan...he actually has some morals. Especially at the end of Z, with the families joining together in that way, he seems to respect the guys. Plus, he's an old geezer by then really, there's little need for him to have it. Plus, if he wanted to, I'm sure one of the guys could teach him how to fly or whatever.
I would think giving memories back is different to taking them away. If Gero actually wiped them entirely, I can't see how Shenron could do it. Taking memories away is one thing, but if there's nothing in #18's brain at all, I don't know how he could put them back. Unless Gero repressed the memories in some way, in which case it's already there for Shenron to bring to the surface. I feel that without something there in #18's brain, Shenron would have to force some sort of memory into her.mysticboy wrote:I wonder if Sheron can give them back their memories. I guess he theoretically could since he wiped the memory of Buu from Earth.
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