Did Freeza train?

[Mr. Piccolo]

Did Freeza ever train? I get the impression that he did not train and that he was simply born with vast amounts of power that likely developed as he matured. If that impression is accurate, do people here think that, had he trained, Freeza could have become more powerfu? Was Freeza at his absolute peak when he fought Super Saiyan Goku? I like to think that Freeza could have become stronger with training, maybe developing another transformation or something like that.

[penguintruth]

He and Zarbon spent a lot of time sweating it out in his mother's basement, working their pecs. The soundtrack to Xanadu blasting, as their bodies writhed in heat, their wifebeaters clinging to their rippled abs as they huffed and strained.

Oh, and they did some exercise, too.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

It's possible that he did some training with Cold in his younger yrs--probably to get the basics down. However, I don't think Freeza did any sort of training to acquire the powers we've seen him display. I believe he was simply born with all of his power, and gained better control of them over the yrs through the use of his more conservative forms.

[Fox666]

It was briefly mentioned that Kyui was waiting for Vegeta at the training room, so I guess Freeza or Zarbon also do some training, but still have slackened. Besides Freeza seemed quite a good fighter to never have done any training. And he did train before he appeared again with Cold.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Freeza trained before he appeared on earth with Cold?

[Fox666]

He said he powered-up... unless it is because of his mechanical parts?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Yeah, I think the Mecha upgrade is why he ended up more powerful.

In fact, I believe it's stated in the Daizenshuu that he obtained incredible power through mechanization.

Here it is:

"Freeza had tenaciously been revived and became a demon of vengeance. Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but he is completely powerless before Super Saiyan Trunks. Easily dodging Freeza's sneak attack, Trunks finely chops up Freeza and then finally eradicates the remaining pieces."

[Fox666]

Well, I guess it's the same as it was with Tao Pai Pai.

[Saiga]

I don't think Freeza trained. I think he was just born into great power and didn't have to work for it.

If he did train, he might get stronger, or at least better at handling his higher forms. But I doubt he could find transformations to get stronger, since that's not how his transformations work.

[Bussani]

I also believe Freeza was simply born with his great power. He probably could get stronger with training, but it depends on the type. If it was just training he did on his own with the mentality he always had, I don't think he'd get far. If he changed his ways and learned about the spiritual nature of ki, on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if he could make a large leap in power.

If he did train, he might get stronger, or at least better at handling his higher forms. But I doubt he could find transformations to get stronger, since that's not how his transformations work.

I also don't think that's how his transformations work, but I think it would be cool if he could come up with a new kind of transformation that did work that way.

[Mystic Gohan]

Didn't Freeza say something like: "You're the first one to hurt me since I was a boy training with my father."?

[Fox666]

From the Strength Checker:

Freeza: “I didn’t think you’d be this good…You’re the first person besides my parent who’s got dust on me…This might be the first time in my life I’ve been so excited…”

[Mystic Gohan]

Musta been some anime crap huh? That line is kind of vague though. Doesn't necessarily mean training.

[Bando]

Well he must've to have put up such a good fight, no?

[Saiga]

Yeah, personally I think in order to be called the strongest in the universe he had to beat up his parents and prove it. So he did just that, but didn't come away spotless.

[NeoKING]

I think Freeza's just a natural born genius.

[Pantalones]

I think Freeza probably trained in the same sense that ordinary humans train (just getting exercise and practicing some basic techniques, rather than pushing himself to near-death and coming up with new techniques and meditating and all the other fancy ki stuff that Goku and company do), just enough to keep him in shape, keep his reflexes sharp, and figure out how to fight and use some ki attacks like his Kienzan-like technique, Death Beams, and so on. He certainly didn't do anything like gravity-room training or any of the other really extreme methods the main cast uses, and most of his power probably just developed without much effort as he grew to adulthood.

Going by Cooler, Freeza probably could've developed a "5th form" (which I guess would basically be a perfected version of his "100%" power, put into a new form to cut down on the strain and maybe allow for even greater power than before, rather than just bulking himself up) just like what Cooler had if he had trained a lot more than he did and at least tried to gain better control over his power. Which would also mean he wouldn't need to go around in suppressed forms all the time to conserve energy, also like Cooler.

So yeah, I think pretty much anyone can benefit from training, or at least anyone who's actually a living being (Android 16 couldn't get any benefits from training aside from figuring out new combat techniques or something, since he only has his artificial power source and no natural ki, plus his body is completely mechanical and can't grow stronger that way.) If Freeza did serious training like Goku and company, especially the ki-related stuff, he'd probably be able to get stronger to some extent... though he'd probably need some pretty extreme training to get much stronger than his current level (and being so durable, being able to survive pretty much anything even up to being cut in half, might actually work against him, since a lot of training--even for people who don't get near-death boosts--involves pushing past your previous limits and wearing yourself out and then recovering stronger than before.)

[Piccolo Daimao]

I don’t believe so. Like the Ginyuu Tokusentai, I think that Freeza was a mutant of his race gifted with extraordinary power at his birth that may’ve increased over time with age. He might’ve trained a bit with his father, Great King Kold, when he was a child.

If we compare him to Coola, perhaps he could’ve increased his power and maybe even unlocked a new form if he didn’t slack off and kept at his training, rather than resting on his laurels and letting his henchmen do nearly all the muscle work for him.

[Mr. Piccolo]

Thanks for the replies. To all those mentioning Cooler's last transformation, that was exactly what I was thinking of in my post, but I forgot to mention that specifically. But regarding the transformations, which form is the "true form" for Freeza and his relatives? I am quite perplexed by this. King Cold's last form, for example, looks like Freeza's second form. I am assuming King Cold did not have additional forms after the form we see, as I think he would have transformed in the fight against Future Trunks. Are the forms something they develop via training or are they predetermined from birth? If the latter is true, I suppose training might be less useful.

[Bussani]

That's...a hard question to answer. A lot of people will tell you that Freeza's final form is his "original" form, and that his other forms are transformations that suppress his power. There are certainly lines of dialogue that suggest this, and it's the impression I got, too, but I don't think it's the only way of interpreting these lines. The guides never really touch on the subject, either, so we kind of have to guess what Toriyama was going for. I also have no idea if Kold could transform, and if he could, whether he would become much stronger or what. Maybe the form he was in serves some other purpose?