Do you consider Jaco The Galactic Patrolman canon?
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^ Well, then I guess the In-Universe Discussion forum isn't for you.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yes, one of the Daizenshuu (it might be 4 but I can't remember) says that there are "Galactic Police" that couldn't stand up to Freeza or the Saiyans.Marco Polo wrote:Didn't Daizenshuu 4 already mention the existence of a Galactic Police which was not powerful enough to oppose Freeza or the Saiyans?
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One can enjoy discussing the inner workings of the Dragon Ball story without becoming entangled in depthless discussion of an equally depthless topic. The problem here is that nobody is discussing the world of Dragon Ball without first relating it to other works, whether in 'canon' or 'strength' debates. Such is not the extent of an In-Universe forum's breadth of topics. Holes are being dug haphazardly with no goal in mind.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:^ Well, then I guess the In-Universe Discussion forum isn't for you.
I'm trying to humor the idea of this being a topic with a destination, but I'm not actually seeing any argument worth its salt to credibly explain one's position considering the facts of the situation.
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Besides the mention of the Galatic Police on Daizenshuu... I recall Chilled impersonating some kind of "space police" too.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Yes, but apparently both Freeza's organization and the galactic patrol operate in and around the proximity of Earth and planet Vegeta. You'd think there would be a conflict.
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I'm still wondering how likely or unlikely it is that the galactic police showcased in Sachie-chan Go! and Jiya, the two one-shots that Toriyama did with Katsura, are also part of the same organization. I'm assuming that's just a coincidence as of now, since Toriyama did the stories for those but not the art, but you never know.
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It seems like they may be the same thing as the Galactic Patrol. In his Q&A from the issue of V-Jump, Toriyama mentions that the Galactic Patrol just looks the other way with the Saiyans and Freeza because they don't stand a chance against such powerful enemies.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Yes, one of the Daizenshuu (it might be 4 but I can't remember) says that there are "Galactic Police" that couldn't stand up to Freeza or the Saiyans.Marco Polo wrote:Didn't Daizenshuu 4 already mention the existence of a Galactic Police which was not powerful enough to oppose Freeza or the Saiyans?
The Galactic Patrol in both works has the same name, and a similar logo; Galactic Patrolmen in each also superficially resemble Jaco, but are revealed in Jiya to be robotic "suits" used by bug-sized aliens. (Jiya's reaction to sampling Earth water in particular takes on a special meaning after reading Jaco chapter +1.) Toriyama only mentions the connection in terms of the logo in his Q&A, though.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm still wondering how likely or unlikely it is that the galactic police showcased in Sachie-chan Go! and Jiya, the two one-shots that Toriyama did with Katsura, are also part of the same organization. I'm assuming that's just a coincidence as of now, since Toriyama did the stories for those but not the art, but you never know.
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The extra background info for Tullece's henchman Amond says that he was formally a space criminal who was arrested by the space police and imprisoned in a jail on Planet Nutz, at which point Tullece attacked the planet and the two joined forces. And in Episode of Bardock, Chilled and co (pointlessly) impersonate space policemen.
That's said in Daizenshuu 7, under the entry for "universe" in the glossary at the start of the book. Actually, there it talks about "universe police/space police", which I guess should be operating on a wider scale than a Galactic Patrol...but it's probably all the same thing.Marco Polo wrote:Didn't Daizenshuu 4 already mention the existence of a Galactic Police which was not powerful enough to oppose Freeza or the Saiyans?
The extra background info for Tullece's henchman Amond says that he was formally a space criminal who was arrested by the space police and imprisoned in a jail on Planet Nutz, at which point Tullece attacked the planet and the two joined forces. And in Episode of Bardock, Chilled and co (pointlessly) impersonate space policemen.
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Oh wow, so there is a possibility they're connected, just maybe, then. Now that you mention it...I can kinda see the vague similarity between Jiya's suit and Jaco's appearance. Hmm...SaiyaJedi wrote:The Galactic Patrol in both works has the same name, and a similar logo; Galactic Patrolmen in each also superficially resemble Jaco, but are revealed in Jiya to be robotic "suits" used by bug-sized aliens. (Jiya's reaction to sampling Earth water in particular takes on a special meaning after reading Jaco chapter +1.) Toriyama only mentions the connection in terms of the logo in his Q&A, though.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm still wondering how likely or unlikely it is that the galactic police showcased in Sachie-chan Go! and Jiya, the two one-shots that Toriyama did with Katsura, are also part of the same organization. I'm assuming that's just a coincidence as of now, since Toriyama did the stories for those but not the art, but you never know.
I remember the gag with Jiya and Earth Water towards the end of Jiya, heh. I've been resisting reading through the Jaco summaries on the site until I could read the chapters myself (so that I only got the most bare-bones spoilers from the main Jaco thread), but I may have to jump in there now and see what this 'special' meaning is.
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Still it doesn't make much sense as to why Frieza didn't just wipe them out.
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I'd imagine the 'looks the other way' means they completely stay out of Freeza's way so that doesn't happen. They don't bother him, he doesn't blow them up, everyone's happy.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Still it doesn't make much sense as to why Freeza didn't just wipe them out.
...Well, everyone except the poor space citizens that the police are technically supposed to be saving. But hey, nothing's perfect.
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Well, it's not as if Freeza controls the entirety of space, so presumably the space police are still around outside of Freeza's territory at least. And if they really pose no threat, then Freeza probably wouldn't bother to go through the extra effort needed to completely wipe them out. Or maybe Freeza and co. were in the process of systematically wiping them all out when Freeza decided to take his little trip to Namek. After all, even if the police are no match for Freeza and co., it might take quite a long time for them to be completely defeated, if there are lots of them and they're spread out all over the damn place, which presumably a space police force would have to be.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Still it doesn't make much sense as to why Freeza didn't just wipe them out.
Actually, this seems somewhat similar to the situation with the Red Ribbon Army. We're told the the police and even "the army" (presumably the Royal Army that Piccolo and Cell later have so much fun with) were no match for the RR, yet by the time Goku got mixed up in things the police and army were both still around and the RR still hadn't taken over the world.
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I suppose, although Jaco's mission was to stop Goku from invading the Earth, which would mean he was directly opposing Frieza's forces.
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I consider it canon, although there are a couple things that doesn't let it mesh too well, I can let it slide.
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I consider it canon along with every other add on Toriyama throws in, it may not "make sense" but that's dragon ball for you
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For me just Dragonball (kanzenban version) and Jaco The Galactic Patrolman are the canon.
But I really like everything else from Dragon World. (Even I was happy for Dragonball SD Special Chapter.)
But I really like everything else from Dragon World. (Even I was happy for Dragonball SD Special Chapter.)
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Sure, if we find out where the heck Tights has been all these years. Never visits her sister or her sister's husband baby daddy or her nephew. She's a terrible auntie.
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A baby growing up in a household without being nurtured and loved will not usually develop as well as a baby who is.Chuquita wrote:The only thing it would change for me is it'd make Goku's inevitable fall and resulting head injury a little more tragic as the Goku in Jaco appears to be a small child already instead of a baby and even though injuries are sad no matter what the age, it feels more potent seeing a small child lose his memories than a baby that due to being a baby wouldn't be old enough to either really form memories or to understand (as far as I know. I'm not a doctor. Anyone with greater medical knowledge, I'd appreciate additional insight).
Seriously neglected children have been shown to actually regress in development, even though they are initially in a perfect environment.
A baby will not form memories as far as I know, but they can be affected by traumas.
Babies that are not tended for, as an example, may have later in life troubles with not being able to be potty-trained at the right time and develop naturally in skills.
Although there is not much to point at scientifically (since babies can't talk), it is shown that even in early life you can be negatively affected by traumas (even though you don't remember them).
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