If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

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If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by i'mfuckingevil » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:25 am

Man, I feel like this is just another one of those what if moments, I've just been wanting to make the thread for a while and now it's coming to fruition.

If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail, he could have held it with one hand and just ki-blasted Raditz to death.

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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by RocktheDragon » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:13 am

If Goku would not have let go of the tail we certainly would not have had Goku going to train at Kaio's. Goku would have been way too powered down for the arrival of Vegeta and Nappa and probably would have lost...

Though those are just my own personal thoughts on how I think things would play out. But since it never happened...I guess it could go in favor of Goku and co. somehow.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:12 am

Nappa & Vegeta would not come to Earth as they would not know about the Dragon Balls.
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by flashback0180 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:30 am

I imagine the plot changing will be like:-

If goku hadn't let go of Raddits tail , Piccalo would have killed Raddits as usual .

Raddits wouldn't know about the dragon balls because they didn't mention it as Goku's life was not at risk.

Goku and Piccalo would train to surpass Raddits, Till Nappa and Vegeta figure out that Raddits is dead after a long duration of time .


now the story can turn in 2 ways
1> They don't give a crap about raddits as a weak low class sayien and lives on like nothing ever happened.

2>they come to avenge him.
Kills most of the z warriors and kidnap Gohon .

...ya i think gohon would murder those 2 after he surpass their power lv.

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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by Cetra » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:16 am

I guess Frieza one day would have been travelled to Earth and no one could have done anything against him. Depending on how much Piccolo changes he will or will not fuse with Kami (probably he and Goku remained enemies and only trained to battle each other so they won't get strong enough for Frieza) but eventually dies, even if he succeeds in defeating Frieza the Androids will be a problem as he is not as strong as normally. Doctor Gero does not makes Cell or a weaker version of Cell. The Androids, if not found and destroyed kill everyone including Frieza (if he is still alive, if not then Piccolo in case he defeated Frieza). Cell probably arrives and depending on how many people to be absorbed are left he either becomes perfect or loses against 16. Either Cell or the other Androids remain on Earth - Cell would probably destroy it. One day Babidi tries to release Buu - in case Earth still exists - probably succeeds because he has Dabura to help him, Buu does not obey and eats everyone.

Except Baby the whole GT part would also not happen - or at least this way - then as Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons all happen because of something the main characters did.

I guess Goku was right after the Cell saga. He is a villain magnet.
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:38 am

Assuming Nappa and Vegeta were interested in Goku for the same reason Raditz was (recruiting him to help wipe out a planet), they'd have even more need of him now that Raditz is dead. But considering that even with the motivation of the Dragon Balls, they still wanted to personally deal with Goku because he was a traitor, they'd still have that motivation too. So they'd probably still come to earth. And Goku would be woefully under-prepared to beat them.

However, if you want to deal with the implications of the Freeza retcon, would Nappa and Vegeta risk going to earth against orders for such a small payoff? But for that matter, was Raditz going to earth without Freeza's permission? If they were subjugating a planet, that seems like it would be something Freeza sent them to do, so recruiting a warrior to help them would probably have been something Freeza would have approved of. But if they were working for Freeza, why couldn't Freeza have just sent reinforcements? And wouldn't Freeza have preferred to do that rather than having Raditz wander off to bumfuck nowhere to try and recruit someone they hadn't had contact with in 20 years?
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:07 pm

I would imagine Piccolo and Goku would keep on fighting each other for the next several years until #17 and #18 arrive. Nappa and Vegeta would never bother coming to Earth if they know nothing about the Dragon Balls. Nappa and Vegeta could go to Namek on their own and try to use the Dragon Balls without Freeza knowing. Nail would end up killing Nappa and Vegeta before they can do anything.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:52 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I would imagine Piccolo and Goku would keep on fighting each other for the next several years until #17 and #18 arrive. Nappa and Vegeta would never bother coming to Earth if they know nothing about the Dragon Balls. Nappa and Vegeta could go to Namek on their own and try to use the Dragon Balls without Freeza knowing. Nail would end up killing Nappa and Vegeta before they can do anything.
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by mAcChaos » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:51 pm

The whole reason Goku didn't grab his tail a second time was because Raditz could cut his tail off. He says that himself.

So Raditz would just cut his tail off and the fight would continue.
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Post by Darkprince410 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:16 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I would imagine Piccolo and Goku would keep on fighting each other for the next several years until #17 and #18 arrive. Nappa and Vegeta would never bother coming to Earth if they know nothing about the Dragon Balls. Nappa and Vegeta could go to Namek on their own and try to use the Dragon Balls without Freeza knowing. Nail would end up killing Nappa and Vegeta before they can do anything.
I doubt they'd have any incentive to ever want to go to Namek, since Vegeta comments that he saw it as little more than a legend until learning about the Dragonballs and then seeing that there was a Namek on Earth. He then realized that there might be some legitimacy to the legend, and that's what made him decide to go to Namek. Without going to Earth and seeing evidence to support that the legends about the dragon of Namek had merit, he probably would have continued on thinking they were just legend and thus never went there in search of them.

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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by i'mfuckingevil » Tue May 06, 2014 1:56 am

mAcChaos wrote:The whole reason Goku didn't grab his tail a second time was because Raditz could cut his tail off. He says that himself.

So Raditz would just cut his tail off and the fight would continue.
Raditz was in a massive amount of pain when Goky grabbed hold of it. He was at Goku's mercy and if my thread had its way, Raditz wouldn't.

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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by thatdbzguy » Tue May 06, 2014 11:34 am

Goku was such an idiot in this fight. Could've just blasted Raditz as he had his tail grabbed, but nope. That would make too much sense.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue May 06, 2014 11:55 am

thatdbzguy wrote:Goku was such an idiot in this fight. Could've just blasted Raditz as he had his tail grabbed, but nope. That would make too much sense.
Which would have accomplished...what, exaclty?
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by qjz123 » Tue May 06, 2014 12:19 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:Goku was such an idiot in this fight. Could've just blasted Raditz as he had his tail grabbed, but nope. That would make too much sense.
Not really, Goku choose to grab Raditz from behind rather than grab his tail because he knew there was a chance that Raditz could escape by ripping it off. Even though Raditz was in a lot of pain for all we know he could have been able to rip it off the first time he was grabbed but choose not to. Probably because he doesn't want to loose his ability to turn into an oozaru. The fact that Goku says that Raditz could rip off his tail leads me to believe that Goku feels that it is very possible for him to do it, I"m inclined to believe him because he used to have a tail and he understands how much pain it being grabbed causes. So with the energy he had left he choose to grab Raditz from behind even if he died Goku knew that he could be brought back with the Dragon Balls the most important thing was getting rid of Raditz.
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by thatdbzguy » Tue May 06, 2014 2:07 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:Goku was such an idiot in this fight. Could've just blasted Raditz as he had his tail grabbed, but nope. That would make too much sense.
Which would have accomplished...what, exaclty?
Gee, I don't know, defeating Raditz and saving his son, maybe?
qjz123 wrote:Not really, Goku choose to grab Raditz from behind rather than grab his tail because he knew there was a chance that Raditz could escape by ripping it off. Even though Raditz was in a lot of pain for all we know he could have been able to rip it off the first time he was grabbed but choose not to. Probably because he doesn't want to loose his ability to turn into an oozaru. The fact that Goku says that Raditz could rip off his tail leads me to believe that Goku feels that it is very possible for him to do it, I"m inclined to believe him because he used to have a tail and he understands how much pain it being grabbed causes. So with the energy he had left he choose to grab Raditz from behind even if he died Goku knew that he could be brought back with the Dragon Balls the most important thing was getting rid of Raditz.
Goku could have easily blasted Raditz before he even had a chance to cut off his tail, so there goes that.
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue May 06, 2014 2:08 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:Goku was such an idiot in this fight. Could've just blasted Raditz as he had his tail grabbed, but nope. That would make too much sense.
Which would have accomplished...what, exaclty?
Gee, I don't know, defeating Raditz and saving his son, maybe?
...How?
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Post by NitroEX » Tue May 06, 2014 2:12 pm

Even if they never had to worry about the Saiyans or Freeza coming to Earth Gero would still build androids regardless and kill them while they're busy living peacefully.

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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by thatdbzguy » Tue May 06, 2014 2:18 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:...How?
Blasting Raditz while holding his tail would have defeated him.
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thatdbzguy wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:...How?
Blasting Raditz while holding his tail would have defeated him.
Based on...what, exactly?
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Re: If Goku never let go of Raditz's tail...

Post by thatdbzguy » Tue May 06, 2014 2:35 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:...How?
Blasting Raditz while holding his tail would have defeated him.
Based on...what, exactly?
The fact that Raditz was completely defenseless?
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