Toriyama says Goku won't turn Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more!?

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Re: Toriyama says Goku won't turn Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any mo

Post by xmysticgohanx » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:18 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:I considered Goku's SSJ3 to always be at a constant full-powered state. It was never in such control where he could relax in it as Gotenks can.
He couldn;t relax in SSJ2 either right?
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Re: Toriyama says Goku won't turn Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any mo

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:57 pm

xmysticgohanx wrote:
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:I considered Goku's SSJ3 to always be at a constant full-powered state. It was never in such control where he could relax in it as Gotenks can.
He couldn;t relax in SSJ2 either right?
He always could relax in SSJ2, he just hardly uses the form as his base.
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