Why didnt Vegeta go SSJ2 against Kid Buu on Kaioshin Planet?

[Angelus]

It was a bit senseless for him to fight against Kid Buu without turning SSJ2 or even just plain SSJ. Why do you think he did that? Was that just a drawing/coloring error for AT or the publisher?

On that note, Goku was fully recharged but didn't bother to go SSJ2 or SSJ3 when throwing the Genki Dama on Kid Buu. Why not? I mean, maybe not SSJ3 since it's a risk that he may run out of power again since he was alive but.. why not SSJ2? Or was that actually SSJ2? His hair just looks like regular SSJ.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I believe that was anime only. Vegeta fought Kid Boo as a Super Saiyan 2 in the manga.

Goku had more than enough power within the Genki-Dama, so Super Saiyan was all that was necessary.

[Angelus]

In the manga, Vegeta fought Kid Buu while being in base form. All the pages before and after this in this chapter shows Vegeta just being base.

I mean sure, Vegeta would have gotten beat regardless but why bother fighting in base if he wants to stall for time? SSJ2 is way more powerful than base. Even if he's too tired to do that, at least go SSJ.

[Doctor.]

Vegeta did go SSJ2 for a long period of time against Boo. In the end, when he was stalling for Goku, I'm just guessing he didn't have enough Ki.

[Angelus]

But Vegeta was brought back to life shortly before that page I posted. His halo is gone and now that Vegeta's back to life, he doesn't bother to go SSJ or SSJ2?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Goku says Vegeta was still out of energy.

[Darkron2151]

He did turn SSJ2 the first time he faced off against Kid Buu, and then got his butt handed to him. That was while he was trying to stall for Goku so he could charge his SSJ3 (which didn't work). Then, when he tried to stall for Goku again while he's charging the Genki Dama, he attacked Buu in Base Form. Either Vegeta forgot to due to the urgency of the moment, or Toriyama just forgot to draw him as such. Either way, I don't have any real explanation.

[Galan007]

Vegeta originally battled Pure Buu as a SSJ2:

But as you can see: in the wake of that scuffle, Vegeta was beaten to a pulp and subsequently rendered too weak to sustain his SSJ levels--which explains why he didn't attempt to transform beyond his base level in the scene you referenced.

[Angelus]

Goku says Vegeta was still out of energy.

Where?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Right before Vegeta goes to stall Kid Boo.

[Darkron2151]

Right before Vegeta goes to stall Kid Boo.

I don't know what translation says that, but this one says quite the opposite:

http://m.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/42-0 ... 1192795715

Could be just a poor translation though, so idk.

[rereboy]

Right before Vegeta goes to stall Kid Boo.

I don't know what translation says that, but this one says quite the opposite:

http://m.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/42-0 ... 1192795715

Could be just a poor translation though, so idk.

That's just a poor fan translation. The official english manga says "you are still weak from before!". So, its clear that even though Vegeta was revived he still hasn't recover.

And before that, Vegeta fought with SSJ2, until he got beat down.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Yeah, that translation isn't accurate. Here's what the original says:

Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”

I don't think Vegeta would be dumb enough to purposely fight Kid Boo if he had Super Saiyan available.

[Galan007]

Either way, that statement is outright contradicted by the fact that even SSJ2 Vegeta(who is 100x> base), couldn't even 'stall' Pure Buu for a full minute before he was KTFO. So obviously base Vegeta, who was just beaten to a pulp moments beforehand, isn't going to have enough energy to do...well... anything at all to Buu.

[rereboy]

(who is 200x> base),

Its 100x. 50x for SSJ and then SSJ2 is x2 SSJ, making SSJ2 100x base.

[Galan007]

Typo. Hence why I edited before you posted.

[Angelus]

Yes! That's exactly what made me wonder! That's a page from the online manga where I read that from!

Strange though... a Saiyan can become weak enough that would make him unable to transform? Wouldn't the transformation boost his ki, the same way Vegeta was weakened so bad that he had to transform to a Great Ape back in the Saiyan Arc, as result boosted his already drained ki?

[Doctor.]

The transformation boosts his Ki, but he needs Ki to maintain it and transform in the first place.

[Angelus]

On another note, a fully restored Goku didn't even bother to go SSJ2 to push the Genki Dama? He's just SSJ. Not going SSJ3 makes sense since he could run out of power quick.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Vegeta wasn't that weakened after being pummeled by Goku. He was only noted to get weaker when he created the fake moon. I also think transforming into an Oozaru is much different than transforming into a Super Saiyan. One happens automatically and the other requires power to do.

There was enough power in the Genki-Dama to finish Kid Boo off, so Goku didn't need to go beyond Super Saiyan.