Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
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Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
Imagine if, when Gotenks and Buu fought in the Room of Spirit and Time, Buu shot a planet buster at the ground. What would happen?
Is it connected to the earth? Would the earth get destroyed? Or does it just go on forever, and nothing would hapen?
Is it connected to the earth? Would the earth get destroyed? Or does it just go on forever, and nothing would hapen?
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
Isn't the Room of Spirit and Time in a completely different dimension that just goes on forever?
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
Mmmhmmm. Just like Penguin Village, ROSAT's dimension cannot be breached by outside forces.CashmanX wrote:Isn't the Room of Spirit and Time in a completely different dimension that just goes on forever?
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Yeah, but is the RoSaT itself some infinitely deep terrain? Can it not be destroyed from the inside with a Death Ball or something like that?FoolsGil wrote:Mmmhmmm. Just like Penguin Village, ROSAT's dimension cannot be breached by outside forces.CashmanX wrote:Isn't the Room of Spirit and Time in a completely different dimension that just goes on forever?
Also I'm not sure if this is anime only, but when Piccolo destroys the door, they feel the impact on the other side.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
In the Viz translation Goku says the RoSaT is supposed to be as big as Earth. Not that it goes on forever.CashmanX wrote:Isn't the Room of Spirit and Time in a completely different dimension that just goes on forever?
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I doubt you'd be able to do much to it beyond destroying the door (like Piccolo did) and then blowing up the other "building-like" structures around there (the storage area for food and such.)
The rest of the room is just vague white emptiness with weird properties, so unless your blast is powerful enough to tear through the barriers separating it from Earth (if a regular blast can even do that... it's not really clear exactly how or why Buu and then Gotenks were able to bust through just by powering up and screaming, so it's possible that regular explodey/cutting/etc. types of attacks just don't work for that sort of thing) you probably won't accomplish much by firing planet-destroying blasts off inside it.
If someone's not durable enough to handle a planet-sized blast going off right in their face, it probably wouldn't be smart for them to try this. XD
The rest of the room is just vague white emptiness with weird properties, so unless your blast is powerful enough to tear through the barriers separating it from Earth (if a regular blast can even do that... it's not really clear exactly how or why Buu and then Gotenks were able to bust through just by powering up and screaming, so it's possible that regular explodey/cutting/etc. types of attacks just don't work for that sort of thing) you probably won't accomplish much by firing planet-destroying blasts off inside it.
If someone's not durable enough to handle a planet-sized blast going off right in their face, it probably wouldn't be smart for them to try this. XD
Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
It would appear that the RoSaT dimension and the mainstream universe occupy the same physical space, but are separated by differing vibrational frequencies. By powering up and screaming very loudly, Super Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks were evidently able to generate a harmonic chord that was sufficient to create a temporary bridge between dimensions.Pantalones wrote:it's not really clear exactly how or why Buu and then Gotenks were able to bust through just by powering up and screaming
...Or so it would seem.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
ROSAT is a dimension, not a planet. I doubt someone like Kid Buu can blow up like he did with the Earth.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
Well going by this I'd say no. It may have limits, but there's nothing to really bust besides the gateway.Room of Spirit and Time
Area: B-1
Special Characteristics: A mysterious room on the lowermost level of Kami-sama’s temple. Inside is a white space as wide as the Earth, with nothing except a building used to enter and exit. The room temperature changes very rapidly and it is unsuitable for daily living. Its greatest peculiarity is that the flow of time is different here. A year here is a single day on Earth. It is a room that certainly seems to say “Train!”
Battles: Gotenks vs. Majin Buu (evil)
Events: Goku and the others trained here for the battle with Cell. Also, Piccolo lured Majin Buu here and had him fight Gotenks. (Daizenshuu 4, p.81)
Anime: The Room of Time and Spirit is also equipped with a shower room. It has a shower curtain as well.
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Just ask if it can be destroyed.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
The objects on it could be destroyed, but the room itself was in fact a different dimention. The only thing that made it a room was the fact that you enter it through a door, but it wasn't our dimension and the only way to get out is by having enough power to travel between dimensions (SSJ3 level of power that is). Could it be destroyed? Well, it could be destroyed in the same sense any other dimension could be destroyed but we've never seen anyone capable of that in DB!
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"Destroyed" is so passé. Get with the times.ImmaDeker wrote:Just ask if it can be destroyed.
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How many planets could a planet buster bust if a planet buster could bust planets?
I'm just curious about when the "busting" terminology comes into play. You see it for the high end stuff, like galaxy and solar system busting, which makes no sense anyway since those aren't solid masses, and for smaller stuff like planets and cities and islands. Where do you draw the line?
Obviously, Hannibal Lecter is a people buster. I suppose Jack Black's character from Anchorman could be a Puppy Buster, but Baxter lives, so it's not confirmed. Power scaling would imply that Hulk Hogan could definitely be a puppy buster, but that leads to speculation, which I don't like for my busting feats.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
It comes from the OBD and places like that where people would argue about which fictional character could beat which other fictional character, and since the physics in all these different universes are dependent on the authors, for a common method of comparison real world physics would be assumed, and characters would be ranked similarly if they could blow up similar levels of stuff, whether directly in a feat, or because they energy value of whatever they did was calced to be that high. Yeah.Kamiccolo9 wrote: I'm just curious about when the "busting" terminology comes into play. You see it for the high end stuff, like galaxy and solar system busting, which makes no sense anyway since those aren't solid masses, and for smaller stuff like planets and cities and islands. Where do you draw the line?
IIRC it went up to multiverse busting (character stated to destroy multiple universes), and down to wall busting (characters who could knock down the wall of a house but not take it down in one go).
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I'm an excellent sandcastle buster myself, as many small children could have attested to back in the late 90's.Regarder wrote:It comes from the OBD and places like that where people would argue about which fictional character could beat which other fictional character, and since the physics in all these different universes are dependent on the authors, for a common method of comparison real world physics would be assumed, and characters would be ranked similarly if they could blow up similar levels of stuff, whether directly in a feat, or because they energy value of whatever they did was calced to be that high. Yeah.Kamiccolo9 wrote: I'm just curious about when the "busting" terminology comes into play. You see it for the high end stuff, like galaxy and solar system busting, which makes no sense anyway since those aren't solid masses, and for smaller stuff like planets and cities and islands. Where do you draw the line?
IIRC it went up to multiverse busting (character stated to destroy multiple universes), and down to wall busting (characters who could knock down the wall of a house but not take it down in one go).
I suppose that "destroy" just doesn't cut it for people nowadays.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
IIRC either Goku (or Piccolo vaguely remember ) stated it goes on forever.
Besides if it was big as a planet, what would happen if they flew upwards. And what is the ground made off? Honestly It makes more sense if it was a magical endless dimension.
Besides if it was big as a planet, what would happen if they flew upwards. And what is the ground made off? Honestly It makes more sense if it was a magical endless dimension.
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YOU MONSTER! That was you who wrecked my sand castle as a kid .Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm an excellent sandcastle buster myself, as many small children could have attested to back in the late 90's.
I suppose that "destroy" just doesn't cut it for people nowadays.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
The ROSAT is a separate, endless dimension. It can't be destroyed.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
In the anime, it can.Lord Beerus wrote:The ROSAT is a separate, endless dimension. It can't be destroyed.
Obviously, Hannibal Lecter is a people buster. I suppose Jack Black's character from Anchorman could be a Puppy Buster, but Baxter lives, so it's not confirmed. Power scaling would imply that Hulk Hogan could definitely be a puppy buster, but that leads to speculation, which I don't like for my busting feats.
Bullshit. Jack Black is below Puppy Busting level, he's a Hamster Buster at best. Hannibal Lecture could go as far as Large Man Buster, but that's about it. Hogan is a confirmed Large Man Buster via feats.
Anyway, I think it's called 'busting' to make a distinction between various levels of "destroy". Technically the impact that wiped out the dinosaurs was a planet level event, but it wasn't a planet buster. It did no damage to the planet itself, just wiped out most of the Earth's life. See also the Hiroshima bomb, which killed around 80,000 people and effectively 'destroyed' the city, but didn't actually do much physical damage to the buildings and such. Most of the damage came from the radiation and knock-on effects. At 14 kilotons, the explosion itself was a relatively piddly thing. "Relatively" being the key word here.
Kinda disappointed there's no such rank as "tank buster", though. Or bunker buster.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
Where in the anime does it suggest that?RandomGuy96 wrote:In the anime, it can.Lord Beerus wrote:The ROSAT is a separate, endless dimension. It can't be destroyed.
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Re: Can the Room of Spirit and Time be planet busted?
Super Buu was stated to be capable of destroying the universe by breaking dimensional walls with his Vice Scream during the Vegetto fight.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Where in the anime does it suggest that?RandomGuy96 wrote:In the anime, it can.Lord Beerus wrote:The ROSAT is a separate, endless dimension. It can't be destroyed.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.