Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:08 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If the fur goes blonde while they are in Ozaru form, it should change when they're not as well. Simple enough for me.
Yeah, but Super Saiyan & Golden Oozaru are not the same forms.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:18 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If the fur goes blonde while they are in Ozaru form, it should change when they're not as well. Simple enough for me.
Yeah, but Super Saiyan & Golden Oozaru are not the same forms.
Are you implying the Golden Ozaru is not a Super Saiyan Ape form? I thought GT implied that if a Super Saiyan transformed into an Ozaru, that's what the outcome would be. Meaning Super Saiyan made all the hair gold colored. And it's generally been accepted that a Golden Ozaru is around 10x stronger than a regular Super Saiyan, or 500x base.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:22 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Yeah, but Super Saiyan & Golden Oozaru are not the same forms.
Sure, they could make up some quasi-science "Namekian enzyme" type explanation for why it stays brown in human form and goes blonde in ape form, but we're unlikely to get something like that at this point when they can't even keep the color they want to use consistent.

So I'm just taking the Occam's razor path here. It's an Ozaru that goes Super Saiyan. If going Super Saiyan while Ozaru turns the tail blonde, it should do so while in human form as well. One assumption, nice an easy.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by Saiga » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:26 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Yeah, but Super Saiyan & Golden Oozaru are not the same forms.
Sure, they could make up some quasi-science "Namekian enzyme" type explanation for why it stays brown in human form and goes blonde in ape form, but we're unlikely to get something like that at this point when they can't even keep the color they want to use consistent.

So I'm just taking the Occam's razor path here. It's an Ozaru that goes Super Saiyan. If going Super Saiyan while Ozaru turns the tail blonde, it should do so while in human form as well. One assumption, nice an easy.
See that's why I just go with Super Oozaru being Super Saiyan 3 + Oozaru. 'Cause we've seen Super Saiyan 3 has a blonde tail.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by Blade » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:28 am

hleV wrote:Well, let's first acknowledge the fact that a Saiyan's tail fur (and Ozaru fur) is brown, as opposed to their black head hair color. So if a Saiyan's black hair turns blonde when going SS, it is not the same as a Saiyan's brown hair turning blonde, so it is not fair to say that "it makes more sense for the tail to go yellow than for it not to".
Well, I think Trunks is a good example of how the Super Saiyan transformation causes any colour hair to become golden, as his hair isn't black. Furthermore, if anything, brown hair contains less dark pigment than black hair, so if you've ever had any experience with peroxide, you'll know too well that black hair is much harder to turn blonde, so the idea that a Saiyan tail being brown could somehow prevent it from being effected by the transformation aura is in-congruent to say the least.
hleV wrote:In short, there is absolutely nothing to go by.
Well, we sort of do - as it has been outlined above that eyebrow hair, which is follicularly different to scalp hair, is effected by the transformation. So even if you discount the mass of official third party material (albeit not Toriyama's) that shows that the tail turns golden, I think there's more than enough to go on to arrive at the conclusion that it's perfectly logical that tail hair, along with any other bodily hair, would be effected.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by TobyS » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:38 am

Blade wrote:
hleV wrote:Well, let's first acknowledge the fact that a Saiyan's tail fur (and Ozaru fur) is brown, as opposed to their black head hair color. So if a Saiyan's black hair turns blonde when going SS, it is not the same as a Saiyan's brown hair turning blonde, so it is not fair to say that "it makes more sense for the tail to go yellow than for it not to".
Well, I think Trunks is a good example of how the Super Saiyan transformation causes any colour hair to become golden, as his hair isn't black. Furthermore, if anything, brown hair contains less dark pigment than black hair, so if you've ever had any experience with peroxide, you'll know too well that black hair is much harder to turn blonde, so the idea that a Saiyan tail being brown could somehow prevent it from being effected by the transformation aura is in-congruent to say the least.
hleV wrote:In short, there is absolutely nothing to go by.
Well, we sort of do - as it has been outlined above that eyebrow hair, which is follicularly different to scalp hair, is effected by the transformation. So even if you discount the mass of official third party material (albeit not Toriyama's) that shows that the tail turns golden, I think there's more than enough to go on to arrive at the conclusion that it's perfectly logical that tail hair, along with any other bodily hair, would be effected.
Thanks man, this was the sort of deduction I was looking for.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:54 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Are you implying the Golden Ozaru is not a Super Saiyan Ape form? I thought GT implied that if a Super Saiyan transformed into an Ozaru, that's what the outcome would be. Meaning Super Saiyan made all the hair gold colored. And it's generally been accepted that a Golden Ozaru is around 10x stronger than a regular Super Saiyan, or 500x base.
Golden Oozaru is definitely a mix of SS & Oozaru, but I don't believe it's just "Super Saiyan + Oozaru". If that was true, we would have stuff like Golden Oozaru Grade 2, or Golden Oozaru 3.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by ZazamPow » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:12 am

Hair is hair, it wouldn't make sense for the tail to stay the same.
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Re: Does a saiyan tail go blonde in SS?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:27 pm

Even though its often ignored, it makes no sense for it not to be gold as well. SSJ3 Goku had it right in the baby fight but it was ignored every other time.
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