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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:20 pm

Potara Vegetto at this point would be fucking invincible. He could crush anybody. Anybody.

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Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:43 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Potara Vegetto at this point would be fucking invincible. He could crush anybody. Anybody.
Well, we still don't know how really strong is Whis. He may have something else in the repertoire to surprise us.
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Post by rereboy » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:47 pm

Whis would beat Vegetto by going back in time before they fuse :lol:

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Post by Dyno » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:53 pm

The "rewind time" just makes Wiss the real meaning of "invincible"... Unless Vegeto obliterates Wiss without any hesitation and quicker than lightspeed.

But, not counting Wiss... Pretty much Vegeto always was and is the strongest character, you know. He is the result of whatever happens to Kakarot and Vegeta.

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Post by Herms » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:55 pm

I half expect the next movie or Q&A or whatever to feature some explanation about how now that Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan God power they're actually flat-out incapable of fusing with each other or anyone else, due to...*mumble mumble mumble*. Like, somehow Super Saiyan God and fusion are mutually incompatible. I just don't see them ever going down the "Super Saiyan Vegetto/Gogeta" route. I could totally be wrong, but they seem to increasingly deempasaize fusion. And if they never have two Super Saiyan Gods fuse, they'll probably need a stronger reason for it than "it just wouldn't be sporting" like at the end of the Boo arc.
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Herms wrote:I half expect the next movie or Q&A or whatever to feature some explanation about how now that Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan God power they're actually flat-out incapable of fusing with each other or anyone else, due to...*mumble mumble mumble*. Like, somehow Super Saiyan God and fusion are mutually incompatible. I just don't see them ever going down the "Super Saiyan Vegetto/Gogeta" route. I could totally be wrong, but they seem to increasingly deempasaize fusion. And if they never have two Super Saiyan Gods fuse, they'll probably need a stronger reason for it than "it just wouldn't be sporting" like at the end of the Boo arc.
Nah, their Saiyan pride is already a good excuse, especially if the villains aren't too overpowered to force them to merge. Goku & Vegeta have Fusion/Potara as their very last resort.

But that doesn't mean we won't see them in Dragon Ball Heroes! :lol:
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Herms wrote:I half expect the next movie or Q&A or whatever to feature some explanation about how now that Goku and Vegeta have Super Saiyan God power they're actually flat-out incapable of fusing with each other or anyone else, due to...*mumble mumble mumble*. Like, somehow Super Saiyan God and fusion are mutually incompatible. I just don't see them ever going down the "Super Saiyan Vegetto/Gogeta" route. I could totally be wrong, but they seem to increasingly deempasaize fusion. And if they never have two Super Saiyan Gods fuse, they'll probably need a stronger reason for it than "it just wouldn't be sporting" like at the end of the Boo arc.
Strongly agree. I think Toriyama wore himself out on the concept almost as quickly as he incorporated it into the story, based on how readily it was discarded. Gotenks, despite being among the elite warriors of the universe, is consistently treated as a joke.

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Post by Barunks » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:26 pm

Super Saiyan God Vegetto vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. A Battle that would be so epic the universe would literally implode and explode at the same time.

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Post by Rocketman » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:35 pm

Vegetto is always the strongest. The more they wank Goku, the more supreme Vegetto remains.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:40 pm

At this point, Whis is still vastly superior, imo.

That said, Vegito would prob stomp a 100% Beerus.
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Post by Barunks » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:44 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:At this point, Whis is still vastly superior, imo.

That said, Vegito would prob stomp a 100% Beerus.
Vegetto would balance out Goku and Vegeta's flaws that Whish was complaining about. I think it's safe to say by that point the student would surpass the master.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:50 pm

Barunks wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:At this point, Whis is still vastly superior, imo.

That said, Vegito would prob stomp a 100% Beerus.
Vegetto would balance out Goku and Vegeta's flaws that Whish was complaining about. I think it's safe to say by that point the student would surpass the master.
I don't think so. Vegito would actually accentuate these flaws more like he did against Buuhan--he would have BOTH their flaws to deal with. Additionally, Whis has only used a fraction of his power to dominate Goku, Vegeta, and even Beerus. One cannot begin to fathom the depths of his true power at this moment, especially given broken abilities like reversal of time. What can Vegito possibly do against that, at the moment?
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Post by buutenks » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:51 pm

Going by what toriyama said,whis is 1.5 stronger than beerus,so no he isnt vastly more power,hes just stronger so far.If they make another movie and say whis is x times stronger than beerus ye,but for now he isnt leagues above beerus.

How i got the 1.5?Simple toriyama said beerus is a 10 and whis 15,thats 50% more powerful.So until it is stated in RoF or a future film i odnt see any reason to doubt that.

Also,the potara fusion multiplies the powers of both.Remember base goku and base vegeta are nothing compared to buuhan but as ssj1 vegetto he was vastly superior to him.

So considering goku and vegeta are close to beerus.A potara fusion would be so high up even whis wouldnt even come close.

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Barunks wrote:Super Saiyan God Vegetto vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. A Battle that would be so epic the universe would literally implode and explode at the same time.
Ugh, Super Saiyan 4 is pretty dumb. That being said even if we take into account Super Saiyan 4 it has nothing against God form. Super Saiyan God Goku could easily beat his non-canon GT counterpart.

Considering DB Heroes is giving us the what-if transformations, such as Golden Oozaru Gogeta, I hope they introduce Super Saiyan God (blue hair) Gogeta and Vegetto. I'm also sure this means that there is a Blue Super Saiyan 3 form now (or possible.) Hell, why not Blue Super Saiyan 3 God Golden Oozaru Vegetto? Rekt.

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Barunks wrote:Super Saiyan God Vegetto vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. A Battle that would be so epic the universe would literally implode and explode at the same time.
Ugh, Super Saiyan 4 is pretty dumb. That being said even if we take into account Super Saiyan 4 it has nothing against God form. Super Saiyan God Goku could easily beat his non-canon GT counterpart.

Considering DB Heroes is giving us the what-if transformations, such as Golden Oozaru Gogeta, I hope they introduce Super Saiyan God (blue hair) Gogeta and Vegetto. I'm also sure this means that there is a Blue Super Saiyan 3 form now (or possible.) Hell, why not Blue Super Saiyan 3 God Golden Oozaru Vegetto? Rekt.
Depends on what Goku is using SSJ4, if its one without God Ki absorbed then he'd lose for sure but a Goku with God Ki absorbed then turned SSJ4 (like one we see in Xenoverse) would wreck Godku no problem.
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Post by Dyno » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:25 pm

Bacon Skittles wrote:Considering DB Heroes is giving us the what-if transformations, such as Golden Oozaru Gogeta, I hope they introduce Super Saiyan God (blue hair) Gogeta and Vegetto. I'm also sure this means that there is a Blue Super Saiyan 3 form now (or possible.) Hell, why not Blue Super Saiyan 3 God Golden Oozaru Vegetto? Rekt.
The hair of Super Saiyan is blue due to the form being fused with the powers given by Super Saiyan God. Following this:

- We need to know if Kakarot can fused Super Saiyan 3 with the powers of Super Saiyan God, if so... Gotcha! We have a blue-haired Super Saiyan 3.

- Isn't Golden Oozaru the "Super Saiyan" form of the regular Oozaru, hence its golden fur? If so, I can't think of a way, but maybe a Saiyan (in this case only Vegeta, as we don't know if Kakarot can control that form) after transformed into an Oozaru, can mix that form with the powers of Super Saiyan God, then... Gotcha! We have a blue-ish Oozaru.

I don't think Dragon Ball Heroes would that far, but... That's why we have fanarts, isn't? :roll:

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Bacon Skittles wrote:
Barunks wrote:Super Saiyan God Vegetto vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. A Battle that would be so epic the universe would literally implode and explode at the same time.
Ugh, Super Saiyan 4 is pretty dumb. That being said even if we take into account Super Saiyan 4 it has nothing against God form. Super Saiyan God Goku could easily beat his non-canon GT counterpart.
And do you have any proof for this statement?
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:46 am

If a Super Saiyan God Vegetto is still possible to create, then I think he should surpass Whis in power but not in skills too. Whis is now described as a "perfect" fighter, who's body parts are moving with the time of presence. He doesn't need to think about a movement before he executes it... Not to mention that he does not have such flaws like Goku or Vegeta as being nervous, overconfident or reckless in fights. He also has some pretty useful time and matter(maybe space too) manipulating skills and God knows only what more.
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Post by Mystic Tien » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:52 am

Low Tone G wrote:If a Super Saiyan God Vegetto is still possible to create, then I think he should surpass Whis in power but not in skills too. Whis is now described as a "perfect" fighter, who's body parts are moving with the time of presence. He doesn't need to think about a movement before he executes it... Not to mention that he does not have such flaws like Goku or Vegeta as being nervous, overconfident or reckless in fights. He also has some pretty useful time and matter(maybe space too) manipulating skills and God only knows what more.
And people were wondering all this time why Vegeta never surpassed Goku. And the answer is right here! He just didn't master his skills, and instead focused on his strength! Not to mention while he got rid of some of his flaws, he still had plenty. And Goku on the contrary got new flaws, which he didn't have earlier. When they overcome their flaws, and master their skills, Vegetto truly becomes the strongest character in the universe.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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