If Goku and Gohan went in HTC first?
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If Goku and Gohan went in HTC first?
What would have happened if Goku and Gohan went in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber first and Vegeta and Trunks were outside while Cell tried absorbing 17? Then after or if Cell absorbed him, Goku and Gohan were on the island with Semi-Perfect Cell, Android 16 and 18 and Krillin?
I think the story would have ended there, presuming they got the same training they had in going after. I think Goku or Gohan would have killed Cell since he's weaker than his perfect form.
I think the story would have ended there, presuming they got the same training they had in going after. I think Goku or Gohan would have killed Cell since he's weaker than his perfect form.
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Kamiccolo and Tenshinhan would've died, since Goku couldn't save them.
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I would have thought that Trunks and Vegeta would have went to retrieve them, especially since Korin could have given them some Senzu Beans to take to the pair.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Kamiccolo and Tenshinhan would've died, since Goku couldn't save them.
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How would they get away from Cell? They can't teleport.SSJ Human wrote:I would have thought that Trunks and Vegeta would have went to retrieve them, especially since Karin could have given them some Senzu Beans to take to the pair.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Kamiccolo and Tenshinhan would've died, since Goku couldn't save them.
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And Goku would probably let Cell reach his perfect form as well. Can't resist the challenge and all that jazz. But hey, Piccolo would probably be stronger by the boo saga by training with Goku in the other world. If there's a world to go back to.
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Goku does like a challenge, but he wouldn't give up someone's life for it [Android #18]. I doubt he'd let Cell reach perfection.Brian4205 wrote:And Goku would probably let Cell reach his perfect form as well. Can't resist the challenge and all that jazz. But hey, Piccolo would probably be stronger by the boo saga by training with Goku in the other world. If there's a world to go back to.
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Tenshinhan and Piccolo die, but Goku kills Cell in second form. I can't imagine Goku letting 18 get absorbed.
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Goku is not a bad guy so the escalation would be the same as OP mentioned, not other way around,,,,but we could assume that Trunks wouldn't help saving Piccolo and Tien so that time could go in Cell's favor and result would be achiving Perfect form earlier,,,but in the end i assume that Cell would announce Cell Games and same things would happen...
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Goku would become best friends with cell and thank him for killing tenshihan and piccolo.
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I haven't really paid attention to that arc in a while. I suppose it depends on how much time actually passes in the original story between Cell managing to absorb 17 and when Vegeta and Trunks exit the RoSaT. As Vegeta and Trunks stayed in for the full year, but Goku and Gohan left early. If that month they didn't stay in there for got them out of the RoSaT before Cell got his hands on 17, then he'd just be screwed.
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Me neither. I firmly believe that Goku and Gohan would kill Cell in his second form and then bring Piccolo and Tien back with the Dragon Balls after getting Dende.dbzfan7 wrote:Tenshinhan and Piccolo die, but Goku kills Cell in second form. I can't imagine Goku letting 18 get absorbed.
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Good point. Tenshinhan and Piccolo may survive if they left early enough.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I haven't really paid attention to that arc in a while. I suppose it depends on how much time actually passes in the original story between Cell managing to absorb 17 and when Vegeta and Trunks exit the RoSaT. As Vegeta and Trunks stayed in for the full year, but Goku and Gohan left early. If that month they didn't stay in there for got them out of the RoSaT before Cell got his hands on 17, then he'd just be screwed.
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Goku kills Cell.
Vegeta gets mad that Goku didn't give them the chance to see Perfect Cell, and attacks Goku. Trunks dies sacrificing himself to stop the battle, but Vegeta is too far in his madness to care at this point. Gohan rages over Trunks' death and goes SSJ2, saving Goku and killing Vegeta.
Vegeta gets mad that Goku didn't give them the chance to see Perfect Cell, and attacks Goku. Trunks dies sacrificing himself to stop the battle, but Vegeta is too far in his madness to care at this point. Gohan rages over Trunks' death and goes SSJ2, saving Goku and killing Vegeta.
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Goku would only let him transform if it wasn't for the fact that he'd be "killing" Android 18 in the process. I doubt he'd allow her to be sacrificed, even if she's deemed a villain out to slaughter him. That's just not the way he rows, even with his saiyan instincts.
What I think would happen is Goku's mercy getting in the way, and Cell taking advantage of this by self-destructing. Goku would sacrifice himself to stop him, Cell would return, catch 18 off-guard, absorb her, and it'd be up to Gohan to stop him. Gohan would ultimately lose, but Cell would see promise in him, resulting in the Cell Games. Gohan would now find himself forcefully put into a situation where he needs to take the position of his father, but this desire to avenge him would also give him the connection to Cell he lacked in the manga. During the time leading up to the tournament, he'd learn to hone into his hidden potential, and eventually tap into it completely, obliterating Cell in the process.
What I think would happen is Goku's mercy getting in the way, and Cell taking advantage of this by self-destructing. Goku would sacrifice himself to stop him, Cell would return, catch 18 off-guard, absorb her, and it'd be up to Gohan to stop him. Gohan would ultimately lose, but Cell would see promise in him, resulting in the Cell Games. Gohan would now find himself forcefully put into a situation where he needs to take the position of his father, but this desire to avenge him would also give him the connection to Cell he lacked in the manga. During the time leading up to the tournament, he'd learn to hone into his hidden potential, and eventually tap into it completely, obliterating Cell in the process.
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Kamiccolo and Tien would be dead for good, Goku would have killed Semi-Perfect Cell and #18 would have never been absorbed.
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Didn't Goku and Gohan left the ROSAT 3 hours early?If so Goku and Gohan would go and finds the Androids before the Androids went to Kame house.Goku and Gohan take care of the Androids before Cell could arrive and be kills later on.
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What I think would happen:
- Goku kills Semi-Perfect Cell
- Piccolo and Tenshinhan would have died and been wish back to life later
- Vegeta would get mad that he didn't get the chance to fight Cell
- Both Goku and Vegeta fight each other for a while then Goku wins due to PIS
- Goku gets to see Goten be born
- Gohan may be a bit stronger since Goku would be alive and probably have him train once and a while
- Mr. Satan would never be popular since Cell never reach his perfect form
- Goku or Vegeta would have probably kill Dabra and Babidi seeing that Goku is alive and Vegeta would have never fallen under Babidi's spell
- Kaioshin takes Buu egg and takes it somewhere that no one can find it.
- Goten and Trunks would much weaker since Buu never hatch out of his egg.
- 2008 Jump Special would have likely play out the same.
- Beerus would have likely never try to destroy the Earth since there's no Fat Buu to piss him off.
- Freeza gets wish back later and everyone dies.
- Goku kills Semi-Perfect Cell
- Piccolo and Tenshinhan would have died and been wish back to life later
- Vegeta would get mad that he didn't get the chance to fight Cell
- Both Goku and Vegeta fight each other for a while then Goku wins due to PIS
- Goku gets to see Goten be born
- Gohan may be a bit stronger since Goku would be alive and probably have him train once and a while
- Mr. Satan would never be popular since Cell never reach his perfect form
- Goku or Vegeta would have probably kill Dabra and Babidi seeing that Goku is alive and Vegeta would have never fallen under Babidi's spell
- Kaioshin takes Buu egg and takes it somewhere that no one can find it.
- Goten and Trunks would much weaker since Buu never hatch out of his egg.
- 2008 Jump Special would have likely play out the same.
- Beerus would have likely never try to destroy the Earth since there's no Fat Buu to piss him off.
- Freeza gets wish back later and everyone dies.
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Honestly, in this scenario, I think Dabura would kill them since Gohan would never have achieved SSJ2. Goku wouldn't have the training resources from Other World, and neither him or Vegeta would even be aware of a perfect ascension like SSJ2.Hellspawn28 wrote:What I think would happen:
- Goku kills Semi-Perfect Cell
- Piccolo and Tenshinhan would have died and been wish back to life later
- Vegeta would get mad that he didn't get the chance to fight Cell
- Both Goku and Vegeta fight each other for a while then Goku wins due to PIS
- Goku gets to see Goten be born
- Gohan may be a bit stronger since Goku would be alive and probably have him train once and a while
- Mr. Satan would never be popular since Cell never reach his perfect form
- Goku or Vegeta would have probably kill Dabra and Babidi seeing that Goku is alive and Vegeta would have never fallen under Babidi's spell
- Kaioshin takes Buu egg and takes it somewhere that no one can find it.
- Goten and Trunks would much weaker since Buu never hatch out of his egg.
- 2008 Jump Special would have likely play out the same.
- Beerus would have likely never try to destroy the Earth since there's no Fat Buu to piss him off.
- Freeza gets wish back later and everyone dies.
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Tenshinhan and Piccolo die, Goku and/or Gohan kill Cell, Goku goes to new Namek gets Dende, Piccolo and Tenshinhan are brought back. Unless Goku can come up with a Super Saiyan 3 or alternative in the next seven years, I suppose Babidi will come and scrap them.
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I think Goku and Vegeta would still likely reach SSj2 in the living world. Goku probably won't able to learn on how to become SSj3 given that him being dead would allow him to push himself beyond his limits without worrying about losing ki. I think the fighting pattern against Babidi would have been different since Goku wanted Gohan to fight Dabra knowing that he can defeat Cell. So it will likely go like this:
Vegeta vs. Pui Pui
Gohan vs. Yakon
Goku vs. Dabra
There would be no Majin Vegeta since Goku's is alive and Vegeta became Majin Vegeta because Vegeta didn't kept his mouth shut during Gohan's match with Dabra which lead him to fall under Babidi's spell.
Vegeta vs. Pui Pui
Gohan vs. Yakon
Goku vs. Dabra
There would be no Majin Vegeta since Goku's is alive and Vegeta became Majin Vegeta because Vegeta didn't kept his mouth shut during Gohan's match with Dabra which lead him to fall under Babidi's spell.
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