If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perfect?

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If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perfect?

Post by Bacon Skittles » Wed May 13, 2015 10:10 pm

So if Cell could become Perfect without reabsorbing 18, does that mean that he could have become Perfect by absorbing enough people?

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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed May 13, 2015 10:17 pm

I don't think so. He might have achieved the same level of strength as his perfect form, but he wouldn't transform.

I don't know what he says in the original manga, but I recall Cell stating, more or less, that his cells or whatever had memorized the form of his perfect body or something. It was a pretty wacky explanation, but Cell regenerated back into his perfect form only because he had already achieved it. Mind fuck.
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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by Bacon Skittles » Wed May 13, 2015 10:39 pm

I thought it was the Zenkai boost that caused him to go Perfect.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed May 13, 2015 10:49 pm

I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:

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Post by Akyon » Thu May 14, 2015 1:44 am

Lord Beerus wrote:I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:
So...he's like a computer that is rebooted to a previous restore point?
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Post by supercat » Thu May 14, 2015 3:16 am

Pretty sure he needs to absorb the Androids to reach perfection. As for increasing his power in his first form, that's a completely different story.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 14, 2015 5:51 am

Akyon wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:
So...he's like a computer that is rebooted to a previous restore point?
Pretty much, yeah.

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Post by Cetra » Thu May 14, 2015 8:23 am

Lord Beerus wrote:I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:

That was never said in the original manga. He regenerated and the Zenkai boost was so great that he regained Perfection and even more. "My cells remember the form of what I have become once before so I was able to regain it after regenerating" seems like a very forced text for Dragon Ball anyway. It was either mentioned in the English manga or the anime.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu May 14, 2015 10:03 am

I think that was mentioned in the dub, though I could be wrong.

Cell just says he was able to regenerate back to his perfect form with no explanation given.

There might be a limit to what Cell can gain from humans, but that's an assumption. Cell says his "initial evolution" would be complete if he absorbed Piccolo, but I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 14, 2015 11:36 am

Cetra wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:

That was never said in the original manga. He regenerated and the Zenkai boost was so great that he regained Perfection and even more. "My cells remember the form of what I have become once before so I was able to regain it after regenerating" seems like a very forced text for Dragon Ball anyway. It was either mentioned in the English manga or the anime.
I just double checked, and you're right Cetra, that explanation was never given in the manga. Super Saiyan Turlast x4 was also right in that explanation was given in the original FUNi dub of the show.

Looks like I got my shit mixed up. :oops:

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Post by Vegitofaxx » Thu May 14, 2015 12:52 pm

Akyon wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:
So...he's like a computer that is rebooted to a previous restore point?
Hopefully he doesn't run on Windows...
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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 14, 2015 1:29 pm

Vegitofaxx wrote:
Akyon wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I think it was stated in the manga that the nucleus inside of Cell's head, as well as the cells in his body, had memorised and recorded the genetic composition for his Perfect Form. And as long as that nucleus stayed intact and few cells of him remained, anytime he regenerates, it automatically regenerates it to the state it was in his Perfect Form.

Cell is crazy ass android. :crazy:
So...he's like a computer that is rebooted to a previous restore point?
Hopefully he doesn't run on Windows...
Cell doesn't run on Windows because he's more of an Android guy.

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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by Dayspring » Fri May 15, 2015 8:18 pm

I say he could, but then if he used too much power, he'd drop down to semi-perfect like when he puked up #18.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri May 15, 2015 8:20 pm

Dayspring wrote:I say he could, but then if he used too much power, he'd drop down to semi-perfect like when he puked up #18.
Interesting point, Maybe 17 and 18 were more than just steroids for Cell but stabilizers as well.
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Post by Dayspring » Fri May 15, 2015 8:42 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:
Dayspring wrote:I say he could, but then if he used too much power, he'd drop down to semi-perfect like when he puked up #18.
Interesting point, Maybe 17 and 18 were more than just steroids for Cell but stabilizers as well.
They were literally used for their infinite power batteries. So if #17 had a BP of 250M, #18 of 240M and Perfect Cell of 750M, then an exhausted Perfect Cell would never drop beneath 490M (the combined strengths of the batteries).
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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by Sayo-chan » Sat May 16, 2015 1:59 am

Dayspring wrote: They were literally used for their infinite power batteries. So if #17 had a BP of 250M, #18 of 240M and Perfect Cell of 750M, then an exhausted Perfect Cell would never drop beneath 490M (the combined strengths of the batteries).
That's... interesting. Going by that theory, would that make 490M its base power, as opposed to the 5s and 7s of the people of Earth? I suppose that means the wear and tear strategy wouldn't really work on Cell. 17 never got tired during his fight with Piccolo, but did Perfect Cell at any point? I don't really recall it ever running out of energy.

If 17 and 18 are stabilizers, then without them, did its body just learn to stabilize? I find it hard to swallow that it could be knocked back into imperfection post-zenkai.
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Post by buutenks » Sat May 16, 2015 12:14 pm

Sayo-chan wrote:
Dayspring wrote: They were literally used for their infinite power batteries. So if #17 had a BP of 250M, #18 of 240M and Perfect Cell of 750M, then an exhausted Perfect Cell would never drop beneath 490M (the combined strengths of the batteries).
That's... interesting. Going by that theory, would that make 490M its base power, as opposed to the 5s and 7s of the people of Earth? I suppose that means the wear and tear strategy wouldn't really work on Cell. 17 never got tired during his fight with Piccolo, but did Perfect Cell at any point? I don't really recall him ever running out of energy.

If 17 and 18 are stabilizers, then without them, did its body just learn to stabilize? I find it hard to swallow that it could be knocked back into imperfection post-zenkai.
Cell did lose some of energy after he fought goku,hence why goku gave him a senzu bean.Also cell has ki and he is organic,unlike the androids who are part or in 16s case full machine and have no life force.

Though if he can actually tire himself out is unknown,since even after taking a beating from gohan and regenerating he still had most of his power.

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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by Hitiro » Sat May 16, 2015 12:18 pm

buutenks wrote:Cell did lose some of energy after he fought goku,hence why goku gave him a senzu bean.Also cell has ki and he is organic,unlike the androids who are part or in 16s case full machine and have no life force.

Though if he can actually tire himself out is unknown,since even after taking a beating from gohan and regenerating he still had most of his power.
Both #17 an #18 have been said to be entirely organic too.

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Post by buutenks » Sat May 16, 2015 12:21 pm

Hitiro wrote:
buutenks wrote:Cell did lose some of energy after he fought goku,hence why goku gave him a senzu bean.Also cell has ki and he is organic,unlike the androids who are part or in 16s case full machine and have no life force.

Though if he can actually tire himself out is unknown,since even after taking a beating from gohan and regenerating he still had most of his power.
Both #17 an #18 have been said to be entirely organic too.
I am sure they have some mechanical parts.

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Re: If Imperfect Cell absorbed x# people, could he turn Perf

Post by Hitiro » Sat May 16, 2015 12:28 pm

buutenks wrote:I am sure they have some mechanical parts.
Why? They could have organic parts that give them their power. The only thing suggested to be mechanical are for the self-destruct device and the emergency deactivation.

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