Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan Full Power Any difference?

[Periskir]

Is there any REAL differcence in power and in appearence between the regular SSJ and SSJFP apart from mastering and better usage of stregnth and ki power?

[hyperbeing1]

Is there any REAL differcence in power and in appearence between the regular SSJ and SSJFP apart from mastering and better usage of stregnth and ki power?

well the mentality is different from my point of view. whenever a character became a ssj they would undergo a personality change a good example is with goku and vegeta.
When goku turned ssj for the first time he was very different in such that he was more badmouthing ,arrogant, and ruthless though he seems to have semi regained control around the battle and during the years of training.
Vegeta personality went from a arrogant but still had common sense guy who is shown using sabotage and underhanded methods to undermine Freeza and take out his enemies with a decent amount of strategy to a guy who's arrogance went to new extremes. he even notes he is a bit more ruthless during his pounding on 19. a good comparison is how he treated Freeza and cell. before he got a little crazy and arrogant with his battle with Freeza he had shown to be careful and chose not to directly fight him until he either got eternal youth or a huge power increase. with cell he was all the more willing to let cell transform and was quick to underestimate androids in general. Though he still had some common sense such as the fact he observed the battle before joining .
As a ssjfp on the other hand the mentality of the person in question seems to have returned closer to normal and allows you to retain your high level thinking skills and your not succumbed to anger.

[Dyno]

Is there any REAL differcence in power and in appearence between the regular SSJ and SSJFP apart from mastering and better usage of stregnth and ki power?

2015 already and you don't know the difference? In appearance there is a notable change. In power, none. But after a recent interview, it looks like Super Saiyan doesn't increase one's power by 50 fold anymore. Super Saiyan "Full Power" also removes all the negativity in the personality a Saiyan had while transformed in the regular Super Saiyan.

[Periskir]

Apart from the mentality difference i mean.

[Hitiro]

Apart from the mentality difference i mean.

The only thing we're told it improves is there personality and it also lessens the strain maintaining the transformation.

[hyperbeing1]

Is there any REAL differcence in power and in appearence between the regular SSJ and SSJFP apart from mastering and better usage of stregnth and ki power?

2015 already and you don't know the difference? In appearance there is a notable change. In power, none. But after a recent interview, it looks like Super Saiyan doesn't increase one's power by 50 fold anymore. Super Saiyan "Full Power" also removes all the negativity in the personality a Saiyan had while transformed in the regular Super Saiyan.

I saw this as well can you pls explain this concept to me in pm i am getting kinda confused on this in general. As goku using kaioken times 10 was not enough to match then less then half of freizas power.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But after a recent interview, it looks like Super Saiyan doesn't increase one's power by 50 fold anymore.

... What?

[Lord Beerus]

FPSSJ provides a decrease in overall stamina issues and also lessens the blood lusting, battle striving nature that the raw SSJ transformation gives.

[Dyno]

... What?

"By mastering Super Saiyan, it can increase the power even more" or something like that. Not wanting to find the interview right now. Lol.

[Kaboom]

There's only two real, concrete things that full-power or "mastered" Super Saiyan is said or shown to do.

- Almost entirely eliminate the stress and stamina drain of the transformation, allowing easy use of the form and more effort/energy to be put into actual fighting.
- Give a substantial boon to training by being in the form for extended periods of time.

That's everything the series and guidebooks have said in a nutshell. There's no indication that mastering Super Saiyan actually causes it to grant more power in and of itself, or anything. It's just a combination of the two points above that allowed Goku and Gohan to gain and show such amazing power before the Cell Games.

[Dyno]

I'm just using Toriyama's words, for the record.

[Hitiro]

... What?

"By mastering Super Saiyan, it can increase the power even more" or something like that. Not wanting to find the interview right now. Lol.

This interview is on about Goku mastering SSJ with the God Ki. Which would increase his level even more. It talks about Goku mastering his base form in conjunction with SSJ to increase his level further rather than using SSJ2 and SSJ3 which sap more strength than SSJ.

Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?!
Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.

Alternatively he could just be on about pushing his normal states strength to raise his level more and mastering his SSJ form so that it further saps his strength less than before.

[Kaboom]

Keep in mind that the context of that quote is, "after the fight with Beerus," which likewise means, "after Goku had his power drastically increased and altered by becoming a Super Saiyan God."

Before Battle of Gods when Goku was a "normal" Saiyan using normal Saiyan transformations? Yeah, Super Saiyan 2 and 3 were useful. But after it, when Goku had his power converted into something crazy and new? Probably not so much.

[Dayspring]

The primary difference is that mental energy is a form of ki. By being stressed all the time, that ki is being wasted instead of used. Once mastered, all that ki can be used, while using it in harmony with the SSJ body means tapping into existing SSJ energy reserves that simply weren't being used before.

Picture a person sitting down who wants to reach as far up as possible. SSJ is lifting one's arms above one's head in order to do so, while mastered SSJ is doing so at the same times as standing up. It's not stronger per se, so much as significantly more efficient.

[hyperbeing1]

The primary difference is that mental energy is a form of ki. By being stressed all the time, that ki is being wasted instead of used. Once mastered, all that ki can be used, while using it in harmony with the SSJ body means tapping into existing SSJ energy reserves that simply weren't being used before.

Picture a person sitting down who wants to reach as far up as possible. SSJ is lifting one's arms above one's head in order to do so, while mastered SSJ is doing so at the same times as standing up. It's not stronger per se, so much as significantly more efficient.

Interesting concept . I like how you use new information and integrate it with the series with no flaws noticed by me at least.

[dbgtFO]

Is there any REAL differcence in power and in appearence between the regular SSJ and SSJFP apart from mastering and better usage of stregnth and ki power?

With SSFP you draw out your power to its limits, whereas trying to do the same with regular Super Saiyan results in the musclebound forms.
That's my take on it.

[Super Vegetto]

Is there any REAL differcence in power and in appearence between the regular SSJ and SSJFP apart from mastering and better usage of stregnth and ki power?

The FPSSJ is first time used against Cell, but many people don't understand the clear definition of it's name...

This is normal SSJ, but because it seams so natural to them i call it with fan made term Mastered SSJ.

Spoiler:

This is first Full power SSJ.

Spoiler:

From daizenshuu 2 with the exact picture of FPSSJ Goku.
"Goku trained in the Room of Spirit and Time before his fight with Cell. He draws out the power of the Super Saiyan to its limits, and the aura that surrounds him is different. Goku decided that an unreasonable power-up was a disadvantage."

Applying the term "Full Power" merely accentuates the fact that he reached that limit.

The reason Goku and Gohan stayed in SSJ till the very point they fought Cell was to guarantee that when they attempted to access their full power, there would be no undue strain on their bodies (muscles inflating); they would power-up the right way...In japanese anime version this was more clear because Trunks actualy realized it and says what was his mistake, but in manga he doesn't...

[Hugo Boss]

Alternatively he could just be on about pushing his normal states strength to raise his level more and mastering his SSJ form so that it further saps his strength less than before.

Or that's Mr. Toriyama foreseeing Saiyan Beyond God and SSGSS. So it can imply that SSG probably won't be used in conjuction with SS2 and SS3.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

... What?

"By mastering Super Saiyan, it can increase the power even more" or something like that. Not wanting to find the interview right now. Lol.

That interview is talking about Super Saiyan after absorbing the power of Super Saiyan God.

[Dyno]

And I was talking about the Super Saiyan after absorbing the power of Super Saiyan God.