Dying while being Dead

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:43 pm

Hey guys! I was just thinking if maybe in the new series we might see a character get killed again while being dead in the after life? that'd be pretty dark because that person would never exist...or would they? you'd think there would be like an after life for the after life?

I'm just gonna say for example it happens to Piccolo or Krillin you know there'd have to be some way to bring them back?

fadeddreams5 · Post by **fadeddreams5** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:46 pm

It would be so funny (in a dark, morbid way) if that happened to Uub in the first episode after so many years of wanting to see him in action.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:04 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:It would be so funny (in a dark, morbid way) if that happened to Uub in the first episode after so many years of wanting to see him in action.

Don't say thaaaaat!

I would like to see something like that happened though because just imagine the new level it would people either Goku or Vegeta on to know that their best friend or loved one is never ever coming back again! that I guess we could get some filler of them going and trying to rescue them some how?

GS7X7 · Post by **GS7X7** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:40 pm

Well, according to Einstein's theory it's impossible to destroy energy, only to convert it.

Would Vegeta's energy scatter throughout the universe or would his soul gradually reincarnate? That'd be more of a question for Toriyama.

SpiritBombTriumphant · Post by **SpiritBombTriumphant** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:37 am

It's been said before (by Piccolo in the Buu Saga) that when someone evil dies, their body is gone and their soul cleansed of its memories and everything. They are then turned into someone new and born. I don't think that applies to Vegeta at this point, but of characters like Frieza I'm sure it will eventually happen.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed May 27, 2015 3:17 am

That would certainly be a good way to raise the stakes of the plot. I mean, the Dragonballs kinda removed a lot of drama after it was established that you could easily just wish back anyone who died.

Sora Saiyan · Post by **Sora Saiyan** » Wed May 27, 2015 3:55 am

If somebody dies while being dead in DB they cease to exist, Goku mentions it to Vegeta when he tries to stall Pure Boo for a minute.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Wed May 27, 2015 11:18 am

Well, a character dying while being dead would certainly raise a lot more tension and drama, considering that if a person dies while they are already dead, they cease to exist.

Super Vegetto · Post by **Super Vegetto** » Wed May 27, 2015 11:39 am

SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:It's been said before (by Piccolo in the Buu Saga) that when someone evil dies, their body is gone and their soul cleansed of its memories and everything. They are then turned into someone new and born. I don't think that applies to Vegeta at this point, but of characters like Freeza I'm sure it will eventually happen.

Frieza was already revived in new movie so i dont think that Piccolos theory make sense, besides for Kid boo aka Oob.

Kamiccolo9 · Post by **Kamiccolo9** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:01 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:
SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:It's been said before (by Piccolo in the Buu Saga) that when someone evil dies, their body is gone and their soul cleansed of its memories and everything. They are then turned into someone new and born. I don't think that applies to Vegeta at this point, but of characters like Freeza I'm sure it will eventually happen.
Freeza was already revived in new movie so i dont think that Piccolos theory make sense, besides for Kid boo aka Oob.

It's not Piccolo's "theory." That's how DB death works.

Besides, the thing in Hell is obviously not Freeza's body, anyway. We see Freeza's body right after that. It's all chopped up and half-mechanical.

BlackMagick · Post by **BlackMagick** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:23 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
It's not Piccolo's "theory." That's how DB death works.

Besides, the thing in Hell is obviously not Freeza's body, anyway. We see Freeza's body right after that. It's all chopped up and half-mechanical.

Okay, well keeping that in mind, what constitutes as "keeping your body"? The meaning of that seems to be lost. In the manga, after Goku died the first time, didn't Enma make a point that Goku was allowed to keep his body in the afterlife or something? Remember we saw that long line of spirits waiting to be judged? I was under the impression that those were the people that didn't get to keep their bodies. I don't know, that whole mess is screwy.

Super Vegetto · Post by **Super Vegetto** » Wed May 27, 2015 3:12 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:
SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:It's been said before (by Piccolo in the Buu Saga) that when someone evil dies, their body is gone and their soul cleansed of its memories and everything. They are then turned into someone new and born. I don't think that applies to Vegeta at this point, but of characters like Freeza I'm sure it will eventually happen.
Freeza was already revived in new movie so i dont think that Piccolos theory make sense, besides for Kid boo aka Oob.
It's not Piccolo's "theory." That's how DB death works.

Besides, the thing in Hell is obviously not Freeza's body, anyway. We see Freeza's body right after that. It's all chopped up and half-mechanical.

Yeah i messed up with saying theory...

We see Goku's full body after getting blown up into nothingness by Cell's self destruct moments after,,,i mean the writing is so bad that he made Frieza more like Majin boo when he is still alive in little pieces,,,i guess that was poor excuse to not show Freeza on Earth because he would destroy it the moment he was resurected or some sheet...

Kamiccolo9 · Post by **Kamiccolo9** » Wed May 27, 2015 3:18 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:
Yeah i messed up with saying theory...

We see Goku's full body after getting blown up into nothingness by Cell's self destruct moments after,,,i mean the writing is so bad that he made Freeza more like Majin boo when he is still alive in little pieces,,,i guess that was poor excuse to not show Freeza on Earth because he would destroy it the moment he was resurected or some sheet...

I don't think "bad writing" is the term you're looking for.

If it is, then why is this bad, exactly?

Super Vegetto · Post by **Super Vegetto** » Wed May 27, 2015 3:53 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:
Yeah i messed up with saying theory...

We see Goku's full body after getting blown up into nothingness by Cell's self destruct moments after,,,i mean the writing is so bad that he made Freeza more like Majin boo when he is still alive in little pieces,,,i guess that was poor excuse to not show Freeza on Earth because he would destroy it the moment he was resurected or some sheet...
I don't think "bad writing" is the term you're looking for.

If it is, then why is this bad, exactly?

Meh i'l just let it go and you go figure it out

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Wed May 27, 2015 4:36 pm

Goku told Vegeta if he dies while being dead then his body is erase forever. Even in the filler scene in the Buu saga where Kid Buu arrived at the Grand Kai planet that if Buu blows up the Planet then all of them will be gone forever.

Kamiccolo9 · Post by **Kamiccolo9** » Wed May 27, 2015 10:35 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:
Yeah i messed up with saying theory...

We see Goku's full body after getting blown up into nothingness by Cell's self destruct moments after,,,i mean the writing is so bad that he made Freeza more like Majin boo when he is still alive in little pieces,,,i guess that was poor excuse to not show Freeza on Earth because he would destroy it the moment he was resurected or some sheet...
I don't think "bad writing" is the term you're looking for.

If it is, then why is this bad, exactly?
Meh i'l just let it go and you go figure it out

All I'm getting is that you're confusing something you either don't like or don't understand with "bad writing."

Super Vegetto · Post by **Super Vegetto** » Thu May 28, 2015 11:27 am

...Nah, you just don't want to admit that it's bad writing.

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