Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
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Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
So logically speaking. Rather than wasting their time preparing for the androids. Why didn't the Z-senshi just do the following:
During the 3 year time gap.Wish for:
1) All members in their team to be immortal
Or
2) Ask the dragon to reveal the location where the androids were being created.
or
3) Kill the scientist creating the androids.
During the 3 year time gap.Wish for:
1) All members in their team to be immortal
Or
2) Ask the dragon to reveal the location where the androids were being created.
or
3) Kill the scientist creating the androids.
Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
Because Vegeta would kill them.
Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
Bulma suggested to wish for their whereabouts and Vegeta said no, because he wanted to fight, Tenshinhan too. Goku said the same thing but he also said he hadn't done anything bad yet, so it'd be mean.
And I just presume nobody wanted to become immortal.
And I just presume nobody wanted to become immortal.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
1. They have standards. Won't wanna mess with nature like that.
2. That was already brought by Bulma. Krillin agreed but the others (namely Goku and Vegeta) shut it down in favor of welcoming the challenge.
3. That'd be pretty extreme for a bunch of superpowered warriors to kill a defenseless old man for something he hasn't done yet. Such as been mentioned by Goku himself. Wouldn't wanna kill Hitler as a kid for the holocaust, would you?
2. That was already brought by Bulma. Krillin agreed but the others (namely Goku and Vegeta) shut it down in favor of welcoming the challenge.
3. That'd be pretty extreme for a bunch of superpowered warriors to kill a defenseless old man for something he hasn't done yet. Such as been mentioned by Goku himself. Wouldn't wanna kill Hitler as a kid for the holocaust, would you?
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For item #1... Immortality is a double-edged sword. Sure, you'll survive your battles (though not necessarily WIN them if you're not strong enough), but then you're doomed to remain living forever, watching all your loved ones die one after the other while you remain trapped in a never-changing body, never getting to move on to the afterlife. No thanks.
As for the other two... they were already addressed in the story. Bulma suggested finding and whacking Dr. Gero ahead of time, but the others objected. Partially because he presumably hadn't done anything wrong yet, but also because they wanted to actually fight and test themselves. Even a few of the non-Saiyans.
As for the other two... they were already addressed in the story. Bulma suggested finding and whacking Dr. Gero ahead of time, but the others objected. Partially because he presumably hadn't done anything wrong yet, but also because they wanted to actually fight and test themselves. Even a few of the non-Saiyans.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
Technically they could just wish for temporary immortality. Like "I wish to be immortal for a year, 3 years from now."Kaboom wrote:For item #1... Immortality is a double-edged sword. Sure, you'll survive your battles (though not necessarily WIN them if you're not strong enough), but then you're doomed to remain living forever, watching all your loved ones die one after the other while you remain trapped in a never-changing body, never getting to move on to the afterlife. No thanks.
As for the other two... they were already addressed in the story. Bulma suggested finding and whacking Dr. Gero ahead of time, but the others objected. Partially because he presumably hadn't done anything wrong yet, but also because they wanted to actually fight and test themselves. Even a few of the non-Saiyans.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
He was a mad scientist involved in the red ribbon army and directly/indirectly responsible for killing thousands of people.Kaboom wrote:For item #1... Immortality is a double-edged sword. Sure, you'll survive your battles (though not necessarily WIN them if you're not strong enough), but then you're doomed to remain living forever, watching all your loved ones die one after the other while you remain trapped in a never-changing body, never getting to move on to the afterlife. No thanks.
As for the other two... they were already addressed in the story. Bulma suggested finding and whacking Dr. Gero ahead of time, but the others objected. Partially because he presumably hadn't done anything wrong yet, but also because they wanted to actually fight and test themselves. Even a few of the non-Saiyans.
Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
The future isn't set in stone though. As we saw in the story. Dr. Gero may have turned over a new leaf in the Z timeline rather than making the Androids and helped loads of people. Killing him before he has done anything would be silly.shonenhikada wrote:He was a mad scientist involved in the red ribbon army and directly/indirectly responsible for killing thousands of people.
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It's only a waste of time if you subscribe to the notion that the characters' goal is to save the Earth. Most of the time, it isn't.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
They could have wished for his location, and left him a fruit basket with a apology note for ruining his life.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
fadeddreams5 wrote:They could have wished for his location, and left him a fruit basket with a apology note for ruining his life.
Lmfaoo thats an option.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
Though in those three years they should have gathered the dragonballs to wish for none of them to die of disease.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
If they killed him prior to him creating or releasing the Jinzou-ningen, it would be killing him for a crime he didn't commit, based solely on his actions in the past and what he "might" do in the future. If such were the case, they should just do the same thing to Vegeta, since he's almost certainly got a larger list of kills under his belt.shonenhikada wrote:He was a mad scientist involved in the red ribbon army and directly/indirectly responsible for killing thousands of people.Kaboom wrote:For item #1... Immortality is a double-edged sword. Sure, you'll survive your battles (though not necessarily WIN them if you're not strong enough), but then you're doomed to remain living forever, watching all your loved ones die one after the other while you remain trapped in a never-changing body, never getting to move on to the afterlife. No thanks.
As for the other two... they were already addressed in the story. Bulma suggested finding and whacking Dr. Gero ahead of time, but the others objected. Partially because he presumably hadn't done anything wrong yet, but also because they wanted to actually fight and test themselves. Even a few of the non-Saiyans.
Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
He'd already done a shitton of evil things under the Red Ribbon Army though.Darkprince410 wrote:If they killed him prior to him creating or releasing the Jinzou-ningen, it would be killing him for a crime he didn't commit, based solely on his actions in the past and what he "might" do in the future. If such were the case, they should just do the same thing to Vegeta, since he's almost certainly got a larger list of kills under his belt.shonenhikada wrote:He was a mad scientist involved in the red ribbon army and directly/indirectly responsible for killing thousands of people.Kaboom wrote:For item #1... Immortality is a double-edged sword. Sure, you'll survive your battles (though not necessarily WIN them if you're not strong enough), but then you're doomed to remain living forever, watching all your loved ones die one after the other while you remain trapped in a never-changing body, never getting to move on to the afterlife. No thanks.
As for the other two... they were already addressed in the story. Bulma suggested finding and whacking Dr. Gero ahead of time, but the others objected. Partially because he presumably hadn't done anything wrong yet, but also because they wanted to actually fight and test themselves. Even a few of the non-Saiyans.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
1) Immortality sucks.
2) The option was actually explored but declined by the big two (Goku and Vegeta) because they're Saiyans and being a Saiyan means you do stupid shit for the sake of a challenge or fight.
3) Dr Gero had really done nothing to the Z-Fighters at that point. And it would have been unethical to kill an old man who none of the cast effectively knew.
2) The option was actually explored but declined by the big two (Goku and Vegeta) because they're Saiyans and being a Saiyan means you do stupid shit for the sake of a challenge or fight.
3) Dr Gero had really done nothing to the Z-Fighters at that point. And it would have been unethical to kill an old man who none of the cast effectively knew.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
So had Vegeta under in Freeza's army? And then he killed a good portion of people at the Tournament 10 years from then. So what's so different about killing Gero before the 3 years than killing Vegeta before the 10 years?singsing wrote:He'd already done a shitton of evil things under the Red Ribbon Army though.
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
There's no good reason.
Goku and Vegeta couldn't resist the chance to fight the Androids any more than your average man could resist a chance with a willing starlet, but they could have traveled with Trunks to the future and tried to fight them there. If they didn't come back to the present, the other, more sensible fighters could wish Gero dead or whatever.
Goku and Vegeta couldn't resist the chance to fight the Androids any more than your average man could resist a chance with a willing starlet, but they could have traveled with Trunks to the future and tried to fight them there. If they didn't come back to the present, the other, more sensible fighters could wish Gero dead or whatever.
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If you ask me, off them both.Hitiro wrote:So had Vegeta under in Freeza's army? And then he killed a good portion of people at the Tournament 10 years from then. So what's so different about killing Gero before the 3 years than killing Vegeta before the 10 years?singsing wrote:He'd already done a shitton of evil things under the Red Ribbon Army though.
Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
They for the most part couldn't kill Vegeta, he's the strongest or second-strongest guy on Earth for almost all that time.Hitiro wrote:So what's so different about killing Gero before the 3 years than killing Vegeta before the 10 years?
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Re: Why didn't the Z-Senshi just wish during the 3 year gap
Both Krillin and Bluma wanted to use Shenron to ask where Dr. Gero was at and Goku said no. It's unethical for Goku and the others to kill someone who hasn't done in harm yet. Even if they did kill Dr. Gero three years early and blew up his lab, Cell would still show up in his time machine and find out Dr. Gero is dead. Cell will likely kill everyone expect for Piccolo, so he can use the Dragon Balls to wish back Dr. Gero. Or travels back in time again when Goku and the others arrive at Dr. Gero's lab to stop them from killing him.
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