DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!

[BrolyLSSJ]

Here is a good thread Bust (With Examples)

[Saiyan007]

Because power scaling logic......and plus that's the only way hardcore fans can even argue they can par with entities from other series but if you ask for a feat the hardcore fanboys wont pos them so they retain the concept of Power scaling and calculations to post and make assumptions/speculations which are in their favor.

Me personally I dont think goku is a planet buster like most others we get bashed upon because we like feats and official statements than Speculations,Assumptions,Power scaling, and fan calculations is that wrong? No just means we aren't over powering a character who hasn't gotten the power to do what another has.....[

My sides

So can king piccolo could beat Vegito since Vegito never destroyed a city?Can Freeza beat Whis since Whis has shown no destructive capabilities?

See when you make statements like these you come across looking rather silly.

Yes Goku has never destroyed a planet,moon,island,city or anything really but that's what power scaling is for it exists in fiction and in real life as well.

Saying Goku isn't a planet buster because he's never done it although he's flat out more powerful than people who can casually destroy planets is just flat out erroneous

I also guess BOZ piccolo could beat SSJG Goku since he destroyed the moon

[Friezacooler]

Peter Venkman = Ghost Buster

lmao brilliant

[pacz360]

Because power scaling logic......and plus that's the only way hardcore fans can even argue they can par with entities from other series but if you ask for a feat the hardcore fanboys wont pos them so they retain the concept of Power scaling and calculations to post and make assumptions/speculations which are in their favor.

Me personally I dont think goku is a planet buster like most others we get bashed upon because we like feats and official statements than Speculations,Assumptions,Power scaling, and fan calculations is that wrong? No just means we aren't over powering a character who hasn't gotten the power to do what another has.....

No offence pal but that's absolutely ridiculous to think goku can't blow up planet considering he has gone toe to toe with beings that can that's like me saying The one above all in marvel isn't omnipotent because he never shown anything on that level but everybody knows he's can.Hell rune king thor never blew up galaxy but he's stronger than odin you know a guy who has feats of doing it on that level power scaling exist for a reason..

[h0kuten]

Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level. He is definitely, definitely, infinitely more powerful than Odin in the Destroyer Armour, even if he had the Uni-Mind + Asgard AMP & The Odin-Sword.

a lot of characters in Dragonball are planet busters or star busters, or even beyond, solar busters. This type of power puts Saiyan Saga Vegeta at around Thor level. Frieza could be nearing Odin Force Thor.

[pacz360]

Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level. He is definitely, definitely, infinitely more powerful than Odin in the Destroyer Armour, even if he had the Uni-Mind + Asgard AMP & The Odin-Sword.

a lot of characters in Dragonball are planet busters or star busters, or even beyond, solar busters. This type of power puts Saiyan Saga Vegeta at around Thor level. Freeza could be nearing Odin Force Thor.

Yeah...no thor going by his consistent high end feats would beat that version of vegeta like he owed him money hell odin force thor would slaughter freeza you'll need golden freeza to give that version thor a decent fight at all and beerus is sure as hell ain't galactus level as much as i want it to happen let's see how super progress before putting him at that level all he has for that are statements for universal level he need feats to back it up at least.

Also odin would skin beerus alive

[h0kuten]

Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level. He is definitely, definitely, infinitely more powerful than Odin in the Destroyer Armour, even if he had the Uni-Mind + Asgard AMP & The Odin-Sword.

a lot of characters in Dragonball are planet busters or star busters, or even beyond, solar busters. This type of power puts Saiyan Saga Vegeta at around Thor level. Freeza could be nearing Odin Force Thor.

Yeah...no thor going by his consistent high end feats would beat that version of vegeta like he owed him money hell odin force thor would slaughter freeza you'll need golden freeza to give that version thor a decent fight at all and beerus is sure as hell ain't galactus level as much as i want it to happen let's see how super progress before putting him at that level all he has for that are statements for universal level he need feats to back it up at least.

Thor is only a planetary threat. So is Vegeta. I fail to see the difference here.

Odin Force Thor is capable of surviving attacks that would kill a normal Thor. So he could tank Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) -or planetary, level fighters, without dying. However, even Odin Force Thor probably only makes it up to Ginyu before finding a match.

Beerus is already started as a Universe buster. Odin is a casual, galaxy buster, and is capable of fighting Galactus (Well fed) a decent fight. Odin in the Destroyer and all those amps has to be nearing Galactus' level of power. However, even Galactus is a Universe level threat at best. Not a Universe buster, whom Beerus was quoted to be.

Beerus vs Old King Thor w/ The Necro-Sword

Should be a good fight. One is stated around Galactus' level, while the other already beat Galactus.

[pacz360]

Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level. He is definitely, definitely, infinitely more powerful than Odin in the Destroyer Armour, even if he had the Uni-Mind + Asgard AMP & The Odin-Sword.

a lot of characters in Dragonball are planet busters or star busters, or even beyond, solar busters. This type of power puts Saiyan Saga Vegeta at around Thor level. Freeza could be nearing Odin Force Thor.

Yeah...no thor going by his consistent high end feats would beat that version of vegeta like he owed him money hell odin force thor would slaughter freeza you'll need golden freeza to give that version thor a decent fight at all and beerus is sure as hell ain't galactus level as much as i want it to happen let's see how super progress before putting him at that level all he has for that are statements for universal level he need feats to back it up at least.

Thor is only a planetary threat. So is Vegeta. I fail to see the difference here.

Odin Force Thor is capable of surviving attacks that would kill a normal Thor. So he could tank Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) -or planetary, level fighters, without dying. However, even Odin Force Thor probably only makes it up to Ginyu before finding a match.

Beerus is already started as a Universe buster. Odin is a casual, galaxy buster, and is capable of fighting Galactus (Well fed) a decent fight. Odin in the Destroyer and all those amps has to be nearing Galactus' level of power. However, even Galactus is a Universe level threat at best. Not a Universe buster, whom Beerus was quoted to be.

Beerus vs Old King Thor w/ The Necro-Sword

Should be a good fight. One is stated around Galactus' level, while the other already beat Galactus.

Your severely underastimating Thor if you think he only a planetary threat and as Odin force Thor he stops at the ginyu which is wrong Thor when written at his best or at least consistent has gone toe to toe with surfer,sentry,beta ray bill etc guys who have shown to destroy planets,stars and such and even has god blast which help go against beings above his weight class again as much as beerus being universal would make me crack a smile he simply needs to show something on that level plus statements are nice and all but he needs some feats that put him near that level at the very least for people to believe it ya know.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Personally I think this kind of speculation is silly. If the plot requires destroying something, whether it be a moon, planet, solar system, galaxy, universe, or what-have-you, it will get destroyed. Conversely, if the plot requires something not be destroyed, they won't be able to destroy it.

[h0kuten]

Silver Surfer is not impessive in the least. Beta Ray Bill is simply a Thor clone. So neither is a great example. A sun level threat would probably be around Final Form Frieza level -still, not very impressive.

The strongest Heralds are laughably inferior to Thanos -he killed the Silver Surfer, whom was beaten by a Skyfather level fighter. Skyfathers are typically, Galaxy busters.

Silver Surfer could probably go until the Android Saga.
Thanos & Odin Force Thor would go until The Cell Games.
Odin in his Destroyer Armour + Surtur, wielding their swords (Odin-Sword & Twilight Sword), probably make it until the Boo Saga.
Rune King Thor + Necro Thor + Galactus + Tyrant + In-Betweener, probably go until the Gods of Dragonball Z.

Anything like the high level Celestials or Cosmic Entities or beyond are still too powerful at this point.

[Saiyan007]

I like dbz as much as the next guy but you're just downplayin at this point

[h0kuten]

I like dbz as much as the next guy but you're just downplayin at this point

Statements are true until contradicted.

[TripleRach]

My sides

Mocking other forum members is not okay. There are other ways of criticizing someone's points.

I like dbz as much as the next guy but you're just downplayin at this point

Statements are true until contradicted.

This here is not a conversation. Elaborate and explain what he's downplaying. Provide an actual rebuttal beyond your personal mantra regarding "statements."

[h0kuten]

My sides

Mocking other forum members is not okay. There are other ways of criticizing someone's points.

I like dbz as much as the next guy but you're just downplayin at this point

Statements are true until contradicted.

This here is not a conversation. Elaborate and explain what he's downplaying. Provide an actual rebuttal beyond your personal mantra regarding "statements."

There doesn't have to be a conversation. It's story-telling fact.

[voltlunok]

Statements are true until contradicted.

This here is not a conversation. Elaborate and explain what he's downplaying. Provide an actual rebuttal beyond your personal mantra regarding "statements."

There doesn't have to be a conversation. It's story-telling fact.

Yes, there does have to be a conversation. This site and it's forums are here for DISCUSSION, not for you to throw down personal mantras and asinine rules that you think we have to follow. Think you're right? Fine, back up your words with actual points instead of throwing down stupid 'rules of story telling' that no one else buys but you, or telling people they're arguments are wrong cause you have these asinine rules, or flat out dismissing others opinions because you think you're right. Stop moving goal posts. The point of these forums is to DISCUSS AND DEBATE DRAGON BALL! Not constantly tell you that you're right and stroke your ego. Multiple mods have told you to back up your claims with actual points and partake in what the forums are here for but instead you decide to back talk and tell them that they're wrong and you're right. Fine, if you believe that then PROVE IT WITH ACTUAL POINTS! Otherwise people will just start to ignore you because you add NOTHING to the conversation and you'll just keep making a fool of yourself.

There, rant done. I apologize if this comes off as mini modding and I'll take a warning or whatever for it but I honestly think this needed to be said. Have a nice day!

[Hellspawn28]

The only thing that busts in Dragon Ball is some of the fandoms nuts when they wank over the strength of people like Beerus, Broly, Omega Shenron etc. Who seriously cares if "X character is a Y buster"? Why is the term "busting" some freakin embraced by some of the Dragon Ball fandom? What does "busting" even mean? Fans pay too much attention to what characters can destroy that they forget that there is story to be enjoyed. Dragon Ball doesn't run on numbers, it runs of adventure, comedy, action and characterization. And some fans don't seem to realize that.

I think some fans really want DB to stronger then it is normally. Some fans wast too much time on their hands on stuff like this because they want to go around and be like "Goku is stronger then Superman now!".

[Zephyr]

There doesn't have to be a conversation. It's story-telling fact.

Who established this? Who decreed it as a fact? No, you don't count. Show us an actual academic source or authority that establishes this as an irrefutable fact. Otherwise, nobody has any reason to take that excuse, or any post you make that relies on it, seriously at all.

[theherodjl]

When I started this little thread I was wondering what the possible reason was for certain fans to set down rules that DBZ characters had to be these sorts of astral busters and then I ironically get this particular response.

Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level. He is definitely, definitely, infinitely more powerful than Odin in the Destroyer Armour, even if he had the Uni-Mind + Asgard AMP & The Odin-Sword.

a lot of characters in Dragonball are planet busters or star busters, or even beyond, solar busters. This type of power puts Saiyan Saga Vegeta at around Thor level. Freeza could be nearing Odin Force Thor.

Rather than get a truly constructive post towards what I'm looking for I get yet another ridiculous "This guy is so strong that he busts universes! Duh!" argument with no intent to answer my question but just so another piss fest can be made as to why DB characters MUST be on par with powerful cosmic characters. It's like a particular someone read the title then skipped over everything I said and then decided that it's a thread dedicated to wanking DB character's strength.
I give up.

[pacz360]

When I started this little thread I was wondering what the possible reason was for certain fans to set down rules that DBZ characters had to be these sorts of astral busters and then I ironically get this particular response.

Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level. He is definitely, definitely, infinitely more powerful than Odin in the Destroyer Armour, even if he had the Uni-Mind + Asgard AMP & The Odin-Sword.

a lot of characters in Dragonball are planet busters or star busters, or even beyond, solar busters. This type of power puts Saiyan Saga Vegeta at around Thor level. Freeza could be nearing Odin Force Thor.

Rather than get a truly constructive post towards what I'm looking for I get yet another ridiculous "This guy is so strong that he busts universes! Duh!" argument with no intent to answer my question but just so another piss fest can be made as to why DB characters MUST be on par with powerful cosmic characters. It's like a particular someone read the title then skipped over everything I said and then decided that it's a thread dedicated to wanking DB character's strength.
I give up.

No one but one guys wanking dbz characters in here if you want you could on the obd they seem to be reasonable on where dragon ball is in terms of power besides that it happens with every series really when ever a character did something that seems op in their show people are going to think that hot shit in reality it isn't.

[Hellspawn28]

I still don't buy that Vegeta was going to blow up the Earth completely. He was likely going to destroy Goku and the Earth's core so that he can escape. If he blows up the Earth then he dies in space since he has no way on getting back to Freeza's HQ. His pod would be gone, he still wants to go to Namek to get the Dragon Balls in order to become immortal and kill Freeza. He's not idiot and won't kill himself just to beat Goku at the time.