Why didn't King Yemma send anyone down in the FT timeline?

[TKB21]

I always found it strange the Yemma never intervened while the androids decimated the earth during the Future Trunks timeline. I'd imagine with enough training in the Other World, at least one of the Z-Warriors would eventually get sent down as did Vegeta in the Buu Saga. The only reason I could think otherwise was that they weren't considered universal threats like Buu was.

Sidenote: Being that it was stated that the future androids were weaker than the main timeline's androids I wouldn't even be opposed to think the b-fighters like Tien, Krillin, and Yamcha would hold their own. I'm sure if they continued training with King Kai it would open the possibility of learning techniques such as kaio-ken and if we were going by anime canon, instant transmission.

[nickzambuto]

Yemma and the Kais are responsible for the whole universe. Planets and races probably come and go every day, Earth was just another unfortunate casualty, but you can't save EVERY starving puppy or sick cat. Only if the androids became a larger threat to the balance of creation and destruction in the universe at large would something need to be done, but just one measly planet? Nah who cares.

[Darkprince410]

Sidenote: Being that it was stated that the future androids were weaker than the main timeline's androids I wouldn't even be opposed to think the b-fighters like Tenshinhan, Krillin, and Yamcha would hold their own. I'm sure if they continued training with King Kai it would open the possibility of learning techniques such as kaio-ken and if we were going by anime canon, instant transmission.

They were all on North Kaiou's planet for a comparable amount of time to Goku, with Tenshinhan and Chaozu being there for far, far longer, yet there's no clear indication that he attempted to teach them the Kaiou-ken. As for the Shunkan Idou, that's literally only in the dub that it's indicated that he knows how to perform it and could have taught it to Goku. What's shown in that scene of him "teleporting" around was just gag embellishment, and not him actually performing it, as he's not listed as knowing it in the Daizenshuu.

As for #17 and #18 being weaker in the future timeline, that may not necessarily be true, given that there's precedence that they never fought Trunks at their full strength prior to the battle where he ended up destroying them, and that it's possible they were actually the same strength in both timelines.

In the manga, it's clear that Trunks believe that they were stronger in the present than in the future.

Chapter: 355 (DBZ 161), P8.5
Trunks: “They’re also somewhat different from the androids I know…They weren’t as outrageously strong as this…Even I could fight them fairly well…”

Chapter: 357 (DBZ 163), P4.3
Trunks: “…But somehow I ended up coming to a past slightly different than the one I know…The timing of Goku’s heart disease was different, there are 3 androids, and their strength is greater too…”

However, in Future Gohan's battle against #17, the one where Gohan lost his life, we're given this tidbit of information.

Chapter: Trunks: the Story, P9.4-5, P10.1
Context: It’s worth noting that Trunks doesn’t hear this conversation and is unconscious, so he doesn’t sense the fight.
No.17: “Anyway, it’s been a long time, Son Gohan…It’s been about 1 year, right? I’m surprised you managed to survive after taking a beating like that…”
Future Gohan: “This time I’ve trained so that I wouldn’t get beaten. It’s your turn to lose now!”
No.17: “Our turn? …Heh heh heh… Sorry to disappoint you…but I didn’t even use half my power when we fought before.”

So, right then and there, we have evidence that #17 is not above holding back a large portion of his strength just to make a fight fun and more interesting, as well as sadistically giving his opponent false hope. If #17 and #18 did this during the times they fought Trunks, and never informed him of how much they were holding back, then that leaves it wide open for the possibility that Trunks never experienced them at anywhere near their full power. As a result, his estimations of their strength was based only on the level of power they had used against him rather than their max, making it seem like the present timeline versions were stronger.

[ekrolo2]

Because the Cell Saga only exists because everyones a f*cking idiot. An obvious thing to say but there really is no other explanation, hell, Yenma doesn't need to get involved at all, just leave Vegeta & Piccolo dead for a while, contact New Namek, revive them both then send them back to whoop the Androids asses.

[FoolsGil]

Why would King Yemma care about Earth?

[TKB21]

Why would King Yemma care about Earth?

Dating back to the Saiyan Saga Yemma not only let Goku keep his body but also granted Kami's request for him to train with King Kai. On top of this, Saiyans have been destroying planets for years. With all that being said, Yemma must care a bit about earth for him to make these special accommodations.

[fadeddreams5]

Why would King Yemma care about Earth?

Dating back to the Saiyan Saga Yemma not only let Goku keep his body but also granted Kami's request for him to train with King Kai. On top of this, Saiyans have been destroying planets for years. With all that being said, Yemma must care a bit about earth for him to make these special accommodations.

I thought anyone who has saved a planet or been a hero keeps their body as a reward. I know they're filler, but there's Pikkon and Olibu too. >.>

As for Kami, well, he requested it. King Yemma reluctantly agreed, but I don't think it's because he cared a lot for Earth.

In the case of Majin Buu, that creature destroyed planet after planet in the past, and endangered the entire universe. I mean, he's the Kaioshin's greatest enemy!

[TKB21]

In the case of Majin Buu, that creature destroyed planet after planet in the past, and endangered the entire universe. I mean, he's the Kaioshin's greatest enemy!

I know its a stretch but couldn't the same be said about the same about the Saiyans? I guess the main difference being how quick in succession planets are destroyed.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Same reason that Kaioshin, Beerus, or Whis wouldn't go there. The gods & the dead are not meant to solve the Living World's problems, unless if it's a universal threat like Majin Boo.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

As for #17 and #18 being weaker in the future timeline, that may not necessarily be true, given that there's precedence that they never fought Trunks at full strength prior to the battle where he ended up destroying them, and that it's possible they were actually the same strength in both timelines.

The opposite is implied.

[Darkprince410]

As for #17 and #18 being weaker in the future timeline, that may not necessarily be true, given that there's precedence that they never fought Trunks at full strength prior to the battle where he ended up destroying them, and that it's possible they were actually the same strength in both timelines.

The opposite is implied.

My wording on that wasn't all that clear, but I was meaning that #17 and #18 never fought him while they were using their full strength until that final fight, rather than saying that he never used his full strength against them until that final battle.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

My wording on that wasn't all that clear, but I was meaning that #17 and #18 never fought him while they were using their full strength until that final fight, rather than saying that he never used his full strength against them until that final battle.

I'm aware of that, I'm just saying the opposite is implied. Compare the two situations.

1. Gohan says he's now strong enough to beat them (#17 and #18). #17, amused, says that he didn't even use half of his power the last time they fought.

2. Trunks says he's now strong enough to beat them (#17 and #18). #17, amused, says "let's kill him"... and that's all. If he arrogantly could've gloated like before, he would've; ergo, he couldn't, and so he (or #18, whoever happened to fight Trunks before) didn't hold back.

And for what it's worth, the Daizenshuu supports the Future Androids being "somewhat inferior" to the Present Androids.

[Hellspawn28]

Because they are not a major threat. Buu was going to destroy every Planet in the Universe and no one was going to stop them. King Kai probably thought Beerus would not be awake by now and Whis would careless. If you want to throw in GT, no one knew about Planet M2 and I doubt Dr. Myuu knows about Majin Buu to stop him.

[Darkprince410]

2. Trunks says he's now strong enough to beat them (#17 and #18). #17, amused, says "let's kill him"... and that's all. If he arrogantly could've gloated like before, he would've; ergo, he couldn't, and so he (or #18, whoever happened to fight Trunks before) didn't hold back.

We can infer though that Gohan, when he fought them the first time (presumably when he lost his arm) he thought that they were fighting at their full strength, which means they didn't bother to gloat against him before then. If they didn't bother to gloat with him beforehand, and intentionally held back their power just to give Gohan false hope the next time they fought, then their lack of mentioning they're holding back when it comes to Trunks doesn't necessarily mean they weren't holding back.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

We can infer though that Gohan, when he fought them the first time (presumably when he lost his arm) he thought that they were fighting at their full strength, which means they didn't bother to gloat against him before then. If they didn't bother to gloat with him beforehand, and intentionally held back their power just to give Gohan false hope the next time they fought, then their lack of mentioning they're holding back when it comes to Trunks doesn't necessarily mean they weren't holding back.

The context is the same with Trunks. #17 waits until the second time Gohan comes to fight to let him know he wasn't using his full power. Trunks had fought the Androids before he went to the past. Now he's back a second time, and #17 doesn't inform Trunks he wasn't using his full power last time they had fought.

[SylentEcho]

Future Trunks' timeline? Wait..isn't that a completely different reality? Wouldn't there be another Enma there?

[Tectorman]

We can infer though that Gohan, when he fought them the first time (presumably when he lost his arm) he thought that they were fighting at their full strength, which means they didn't bother to gloat against him before then. If they didn't bother to gloat with him beforehand, and intentionally held back their power just to give Gohan false hope the next time they fought, then their lack of mentioning they're holding back when it comes to Trunks doesn't necessarily mean they weren't holding back.

The context is the same with Trunks. #17 waits until the second time Gohan comes to fight to let him know he wasn't using his full power. Trunks had fought the Androids before he went to the past. Now he's back a second time, and #17 doesn't inform Trunks he wasn't using his full power last time they had fought.

Maybe that's just because the conversation never naturally progressed to that point. By the time it otherwise would have, Trunks has already destroyed #18, and #17 doesn't feel like gloating anymore.

[Hellspawn28]

Future Trunks' timeline? Wait..isn't that a completely different reality? Wouldn't there be another Enma there?

I would imagine soon. I think another reason why Goku and the others didn't return to Earth after death is avoid to having their bodies being erase for good. If the dead dies again then they are gone forever.

[ekrolo2]

Future Trunks' timeline? Wait..isn't that a completely different reality? Wouldn't there be another Enma there?

I would imagine soon. I think another reason why Goku and the others didn't return to Earth after death is avoid to having their bodies being erase for good. If the dead dies again then they are gone forever.

They can train their asses off in Otherworld though, hell, give Goku 2-4 years and he'll come back at the very least strong enough to kick the ass of Semi-Perfect Cell. The real reason no one goes back is because everyone in this point in the series is both an asshole and a moron.

[irreality]

I always found it strange the Yemma never intervened while the androids decimated the earth during the Future Trunks timeline. I'd imagine with enough training in the Other World, at least one of the Z-Warriors would eventually get sent down as did Vegeta in the Buu Saga. The only reason I could think otherwise was that they weren't considered universal threats like Buu was.

Sidenote: Being that it was stated that the future androids were weaker than the main timeline's androids I wouldn't even be opposed to think the b-fighters like Tenshinhan, Krillin, and Yamcha would hold their own. I'm sure if they continued training with King Kai it would open the possibility of learning techniques such as kaio-ken and if we were going by anime canon, instant transmission.

Maybe Uranai Baba died, plus I think she can only bring one person back to life at a time and only for one day ever. Although Enma can grant someone keep their body and train in the afterlife, no amount of instant transmission gets them back to the land of the living if they are dead.