Darkprince410 wrote:GTX wrote:
You are really stupid, your post nothing more than shitpost this posting prove it. This is a troll posting.
That's not even the same word. Janemba first form is a fatty a very huge GIANT FATTY. Eventhough he has strong ki but he's a fatty a very big fatty that even has hard time to move or even walking. Is this even need to be pointed and goku mostly would not win but he won because super saiyan 3 glitch in hell, off course. If goku was alive goku cannot even use super saiyan 3 without losing too much on stamina very quick let alone winning anything.
Ok disregarding this is non canon movie, Your posting annoy me because i know you have no set standard of logic regarding this matter.
You're just trying make a loophole and argue for the sake of arguing.
The 2 scene are not even the same but you forced people to take into account those scene are the same.
Eventhough in GT goku can stomp rildo alone but in the non canon movie goku lost to janemba and need to settle with gogeta.
Clearly janemba first form is a giant snorlax with very lacks on agility and baby body is full a fledged strong fighter body so super saiyan 3 glitch can take advantage of it.
Those 2 scene clearly different level of situation yet you're thinking this is the same
The last one i repeat about the glitch on super saiyan 3.
I know this is a troll posting and understabd why you doesn't speak your logic because you clearly understand if you have any set of logic standard you cannot even state that goku was winning against janemba because goku was actually indeed lost to janemba and need to resort using GOGETA unlike GT goku who stomp rildo very easily. Yes regardless the situation you will lose argument that's why you don't have any set of logic or reasoning.
I'm bored with this stupid trolling statement. That's because this is clearly very different situation.
First off, the insults and bashing are uncalled for. Whether you agree with my statements or not, there's no need for that kind of backlash.
Goku did not lose to the form of Janemba that he made that statement about. He made that statement regarding Janemba's fat form, and readily defeated that fat form. The Ssj3 "glitch", as you want to call it, wouldn't have mattered in this case, as we readily saw that Goku could hold Ssj3 for a decent length of time while in his living body, more than the length of time it took for him to defeat Janemba.
Nothing about Goku's line about Rild contradicts the notion that it could simply be about Mr. Buu, as he's not being specific about what form of Buu he's talking about, and the context of who he's telling that to would most reasonably fit if he were referring to Mr. Buu. Likewise, as shown regarding movie 12 (the same "canonicity" as GT), Goku's line about Bebi Vegeta being the strongest he ever "felt" has precedence to be ignoring what he (Goku) personally experienced.
Your reasoning are very unreliable to begin with. Actually you don't have single base as reasoning. All your reasoning are flawed and cannot even be hold as evidence. Actually the best action is to ignore your reasoning because it''s baseless and cannot be even considered as proof.
There are actually tons of reasoning that your reasoning flaw and i don't even have any will to post in this posting.
No the bashing because i understand you're actually won't make any statement and let people do all the work thinking what you're actually implying and that's stupid.
You cannot say the statement of baby are wrong because some random non sense because baby statement is clear and fact. Your reasoning is just baseless or mere assumption at best.
2. janemba first form may be just a shell or his armor the 2nd form actually HIS TRUE FORM nothing else. Did goku state his ki more powerfull than before ? No.
3. Goku not winning anything he was actually losing mostly. there is no proof that janemba was hurt or dying he maybe just playing around knowing he can kill goku anytime.
4. Janemba just slow. He was actually strong but that form is an armor and armor is not for attacking but defense
5 KI was stronger doesn't mean he can win by being slow ass and not hitting anyting.
6. people has stamina, weakness, defense, agility. all those matter
7. those 2 scene are clearly different.
8. Goku clearly state in GT he know he would lose and that is clear
THE POINT IS YOUR ARGUMENT ARE VERY FLAWED AND DOESN'T WORTH MENTIONING. That is an assumption at best and a cherry picking worth nothing.
You don't even give statement or reasoning to make your reasoning is a valid proof.
Those are 2 different case and you cannot even prove it's the same case. From the field ( hell), super saiyan3 etc
I don't really care about this argument but if you don't want to state your reasoning or logic still being as passive as it don't quote me.
You admit it or not your reasoning just an assumption at best and doesn't prove anything. the fact is that 2 thing are different and not even related at all .
I was taking this bait and this is over i don't want to waste anymore time.
You can state whatever you want. i don't care and No offense to anyone.