When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
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When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
It was Kibito's skill.
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Re: since when does kaioshin know kaikai?
I had the same thought. I simply just made it that when the pair separated magically, they each transferred a bit of knowledge to one another, kai kai being what Supreme Kai received. That's my headcanon, at least.
Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
Whis made it sound Kai Kai was a ability Kaioshin was suposed to have. Perhaps due to his age, he didn't learn it until being merged with Kibito.
Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
I would say he acquired it during the fusion, however the other fusion users haven't learned techniques from their fusees. It is true that Kibitoshin lasted years, that might have something to do with it.
The other possibility is that Kibito taught him after they defused.
The other possibility is that Kibito taught him after they defused.
Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
I don't see why Kaioshin can't have a rich existence full of various interests we're not privy to in the series proper. Like, we don't know him, you know? We don't know his life. We don't know what he's about.
Re: since when does kaioshin know kaikai?
Well, that sounds good enough to me.Wizard Sesame wrote:I had the same thought. I simply just made it that when the pair separated magically, they each transferred a bit of knowledge to one another, kai kai being what Supreme Kai received. That's my headcanon, at least.
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
it seems the other kaioshins and even daikaioshin didn't know kai kai since they didn't use it to escape from majin buu.Hugo Boss wrote:Whis made it sound Kai Kai was a ability Kaioshin was suposed to have. Perhaps due to his age, he didn't learn it until being merged with Kibito.
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It could become questionable that he was limping toward Gohan instead of just teleporting. But then, that's easily resolved by him having been pretty battered up at that part, so he could have simply not had enough ki.Cipher wrote:I don't see why Kaioshin can't have a rich existence full of various interests we're not privy to in the series proper. Like, we don't know him, you know? We don't know his life. We don't know what he's about.
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
Oddly, in DBZ ep.241 it actually does sound like Kaioshin's the one to say "Kai-Kai" when they take Gohan off to the Kaioshin Realm. An anime-only thing, and it goes against him later identifying it as Kibito's technique, but there you have it. Or am I simply mishearing?
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
I'm pretty sure that Kaioshin is listed as being a user of Kai-Kai. He's a transcendental authority figure whose position supersedes that of the regular Kais and adjudicator for the dead, King Yemma. Who knows how many years of written and unwritten history he's been witness to; this includes the comprehension of techniques. The more reasonable question to ask might be where Kibito acquired it. It's possible he originally learned it from Kaioshin.
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No. Kaioshin(merged with Kibito) tells Goku and Vegeta, that it was Kibito's ability, when they discuss how to get to New Namek after Kid Buu blew up Earth.Lionel wrote:I'm pretty sure that Kaioshin is listed as being a user of Kai-Kai. He's a transcendental authority figure whose position supersedes that of the regular Kais and adjudicator for the dead, King Yemma. Who knows how many years of written and unwritten history he's been witness to; this includes the comprehension of techniques. The more reasonable question to ask might be where Kibito acquired it. It's possible he originally learned it from Kaioshin.
I smell a retcon.
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
if kaioshin knows kai kai,he should be really really stupid to not use it when fat buu showed up.dbgtFO wrote:No. Kaioshin(merged with Kibito) tells Goku and Vegeta, that it was Kibito's ability, when they discuss how to get to New Namek after Kid Buu blew up Earth.Lionel wrote:I'm pretty sure that Kaioshin is listed as being a user of Kai-Kai. He's a transcendental authority figure whose position supersedes that of the regular Kais and adjudicator for the dead, King Yemma. Who knows how many years of written and unwritten history he's been witness to; this includes the comprehension of techniques. The more reasonable question to ask might be where Kibito acquired it. It's possible he originally learned it from Kaioshin.
I smell a retcon.
Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
I guess someone figured that the Future Trunks arc was turning out a little too good so far, and hadn't met its "needless inconsistencies" quota yet. I'd prefer to go back to when Kaioshin and Kibito being split back up was just pointless, instead of contradictory.
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
I guess he learn it from Kibito off screen or he may learn after fusing with Kibito for so long.
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
It's 100% plausible that he learnt it from being fused with someone who already knew it and used it several times while fused.
It's not an inconsistency if it's more likely to happen than not, just because it's not spelled out.
When Kuririn and Yamcha learned the Kamehameha we didn't think it was a mistake, we just thought "oh cool they learnt that move"
As someone pointed out he could have been taught it by Kibito/Elder Kai post split from Kibito, although I prefer the fusion answer.
It's not an inconsistency if it's more likely to happen than not, just because it's not spelled out.
When Kuririn and Yamcha learned the Kamehameha we didn't think it was a mistake, we just thought "oh cool they learnt that move"
As someone pointed out he could have been taught it by Kibito/Elder Kai post split from Kibito, although I prefer the fusion answer.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
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Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
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He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
is there any evidence to suggest Supreme Kai didn't always know Kai-Kai?
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Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
MaxZ wrote:is there any evidence to suggest Supreme Kai didn't always know Kai-Kai?
dragonballer wrote:if kaioshin knows kai kai,he should be really really stupid to not use it when fat buu showed up.dbgtFO wrote:No. Kaioshin(merged with Kibito) tells Goku and Vegeta, that it was Kibito's ability, when they discuss how to get to New Namek after Kid Buu blew up Earth.Lionel wrote:I'm pretty sure that Kaioshin is listed as being a user of Kai-Kai. He's a transcendental authority figure whose position supersedes that of the regular Kais and adjudicator for the dead, King Yemma. Who knows how many years of written and unwritten history he's been witness to; this includes the comprehension of techniques. The more reasonable question to ask might be where Kibito acquired it. It's possible he originally learned it from Kaioshin.
I smell a retcon.
Re: When Did Kaioshin Learn the Kai-Kai Technique?
We don't know when , maybe it is related with the potara fusion with Kibito as formentioned. However why should we care ? He could have learned it even after the fusion .