Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
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Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Aside from Gero, of course
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
In filler material most likely yes,as collateral damage between No. 18 and Vegeta's fight. I believe No. 17 also killed some motorcycle gang members by running them into walls with his van.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
I bet Park Ranger 17 is a "no second chances" type of guy with people with litter in his park.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Well it was only that guy in the truck that died in Vegeta and 18's fight right?
Not including filler though.
Not including filler though.
dropped a candy wrapper, eh? *ki blast* lol wtfMarco Polo wrote:I bet Park Ranger 17 is a "no second chances" type of guy with people with litter in his park.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Kai dub (uncut) has a guy yell "My truck!" after Vegeta blew the truck up.Angelus wrote:Well it was only that guy in the truck that died in Vegeta and 18's fight right?
Not including filler though.
dropped a candy wrapper, eh? *ki blast* lol wtfMarco Polo wrote:I bet Park Ranger 17 is a "no second chances" type of guy with people with litter in his park.
Vegeta fired the blast. 18 just jumped out of the way.
But even including filler, Lapis and Lazuli only killed Gero. No one else.
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Oh wow so present 17 and 18 are clean then. Not even those from collateral damage died from any of their altercations?
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Yep. The only people who died (besides Gero) during the Androids conflict were killed by 13, 14, 15, 19, 20, or Cell. Other than Gero, 17 and 18's hands are clean.Angelus wrote:Oh wow so present 17 and 18 are clean then. Not even those from collateral damage died from any of their altercations?
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
I guess the only one that actually did would be by Vegeta's hands. That truck driver. He did actually die in the manga right?
Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Vegeta does kill the truck guy in the manga, they don't fight on the highway though.Angelus wrote:I guess the only one that actually did would be by Vegeta's hands. That truck driver. He did actually die in the manga right?
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Ohh wait, was it in the manga where 18 attacked some Police officers that were running after them for hijacking a van?
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Yes. But they live. The last panel of that scene shows they're alive.Angelus wrote:Ohh wait, was it in the manga where 18 attacked some Police officers that were running after them for hijacking a van?
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
To clarify, here's the scene;
*car turns over and crashes into wall*
*18 flies back to van*
*We see the cops with a disheveled look*
"If it's just a nightmare, why does it HURT this much?"
*car turns over and crashes into wall*
*18 flies back to van*
*We see the cops with a disheveled look*
"If it's just a nightmare, why does it HURT this much?"
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
They died cause tons of collateral damage in the form of destruction of property and severe injury, but I don't think anybody actually died.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
Oh I see. Wow, these guys are far different from their future counterparts then when it comes to killing
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
I ascribe to the belief 19 and 20 DID appear in the future timeline, but anyone who would've been there to remember them is dead. Either Vegeta or Piccolo destroyed 19, so 20 runs away with his tail between his legs and activates 17 and 18. The two then kill 20.Angelus wrote:Oh I see. Wow, these guys are far different from their future counterparts then when it comes to killing
Gero apparently put 16 out of sight in that timeline. With Gero killed before he can make plans to assign the second project of creating 13/14/15, 17 and 18 are left as the only RR Androids in operation. 9 is probably hidden away somewhere, and Cell is still an embryo. So with no Goku and thus Gero focused more on their ruthlessness and less on power, the Future Androids are way more evil yet also weaker than their present counterparts. There's also more people to kill. The Z-Fighters don't get a heads-up, so 17/18 slaughter them all.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?
#18's lack of redirection permitted a bystander to be killed. She also threatened to kill Mr Satan if he didn't comply with her demands. No actual blood may be on their hands, but it seems clear that they hold no reservations about it. Imagine what would have become of Piccolo once he had exhausted himself to the brink of collapse during his fight with #17.