Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

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Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Angelus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:44 pm

Aside from Gero, of course

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by TheatreStyleKai » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:18 pm

In filler material most likely yes,as collateral damage between No. 18 and Vegeta's fight. I believe No. 17 also killed some motorcycle gang members by running them into walls with his van.

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:25 pm

I bet Park Ranger 17 is a "no second chances" type of guy with people with litter in his park.

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Angelus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:32 pm

Well it was only that guy in the truck that died in Vegeta and 18's fight right?

Not including filler though.
Marco Polo wrote:I bet Park Ranger 17 is a "no second chances" type of guy with people with litter in his park.
dropped a candy wrapper, eh? *ki blast* lol wtf :lol:

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:03 pm

Angelus wrote:Well it was only that guy in the truck that died in Vegeta and 18's fight right?

Not including filler though.
Marco Polo wrote:I bet Park Ranger 17 is a "no second chances" type of guy with people with litter in his park.
dropped a candy wrapper, eh? *ki blast* lol wtf :lol:
Kai dub (uncut) has a guy yell "My truck!" after Vegeta blew the truck up.

Vegeta fired the blast. 18 just jumped out of the way.

But even including filler, Lapis and Lazuli only killed Gero. No one else.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Angelus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:07 pm

Oh wow so present 17 and 18 are clean then. Not even those from collateral damage died from any of their altercations?

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:11 pm

Angelus wrote:Oh wow so present 17 and 18 are clean then. Not even those from collateral damage died from any of their altercations?
Yep. The only people who died (besides Gero) during the Androids conflict were killed by 13, 14, 15, 19, 20, or Cell. Other than Gero, 17 and 18's hands are clean.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Angelus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:13 pm

I guess the only one that actually did would be by Vegeta's hands. That truck driver. He did actually die in the manga right?

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:15 pm

Angelus wrote:I guess the only one that actually did would be by Vegeta's hands. That truck driver. He did actually die in the manga right?
Vegeta does kill the truck guy in the manga, they don't fight on the highway though.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Angelus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:18 pm

Ohh wait, was it in the manga where 18 attacked some Police officers that were running after them for hijacking a van?

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:20 pm

Angelus wrote:Ohh wait, was it in the manga where 18 attacked some Police officers that were running after them for hijacking a van?
Yes. But they live. The last panel of that scene shows they're alive.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:22 pm

To clarify, here's the scene;

*car turns over and crashes into wall*
*18 flies back to van*
*We see the cops with a disheveled look*
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:24 pm

They died cause tons of collateral damage in the form of destruction of property and severe injury, but I don't think anybody actually died.

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Angelus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:31 pm

Oh I see. Wow, these guys are far different from their future counterparts then when it comes to killing

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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:41 pm

Angelus wrote:Oh I see. Wow, these guys are far different from their future counterparts then when it comes to killing
I ascribe to the belief 19 and 20 DID appear in the future timeline, but anyone who would've been there to remember them is dead. Either Vegeta or Piccolo destroyed 19, so 20 runs away with his tail between his legs and activates 17 and 18. The two then kill 20.

Gero apparently put 16 out of sight in that timeline. With Gero killed before he can make plans to assign the second project of creating 13/14/15, 17 and 18 are left as the only RR Androids in operation. 9 is probably hidden away somewhere, and Cell is still an embryo. So with no Goku and thus Gero focused more on their ruthlessness and less on power, the Future Androids are way more evil yet also weaker than their present counterparts. There's also more people to kill. The Z-Fighters don't get a heads-up, so 17/18 slaughter them all.
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Re: Did 17 and 18 actually kill anyone, like their future counterparts?

Post by Lionel » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:12 am

#18's lack of redirection permitted a bystander to be killed. She also threatened to kill Mr Satan if he didn't comply with her demands. No actual blood may be on their hands, but it seems clear that they hold no reservations about it. Imagine what would have become of Piccolo once he had exhausted himself to the brink of collapse during his fight with #17.

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