Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
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Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
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Goku could touch King Kai's back and talk to Gohan just fine, just like he did when Gohan was clashing with Cell and like Yamcha talked to Bulma after everyone was teleported to the Earth. So why didn't Goku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the existence of the HTC, so Gohan would train and most likely become stronger than the androids?
Goku could touch King Kai's back and talk to Gohan just fine, just like he did when Gohan was clashing with Cell and like Yamcha talked to Bulma after everyone was teleported to the Earth. So why didn't Goku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the existence of the HTC, so Gohan would train and most likely become stronger than the androids?
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Good question. If I recall correctly, Goku conveyed how he would visit King Kai and Bubbles again should he die -- that would have been an opportune moment to relay the news of a transdimensional room that can be used to greatly increase power. You'll simply need to chalk it up to suspension of disbelief as the timeline of events would run counterintuitively to Toriyama's intended context for Trunks' world. You could extend the parameters of this scenario further and have Goku call upon his one day return to the mortal realm to teleport Gohan to New Namek and use their Dragon Balls.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
He probably didn't think about it. I doubt Goku was watching over everyone since his contact with the living world is likely limited. Goku didn't know who Goten was and that #18 is married with Krillin.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Goku died of natural causes in the future so his body is gone.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
In a Super bonus chapter future Goku has his body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Goku died of natural causes in the future so his body is gone.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
It was just an excuse for a shitty joke.Sarcasmos wrote:In a Super bonus chapter future Goku has his body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Goku died of natural causes in the future so his body is gone.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
I think that Kami's Lookout was destroyed in the future and Future Korin died there.Ash57 wrote:Title.
Goku could touch King Kai's back and talk to Gohan just fine, just like he did when Gohan was clashing with Cell and like Yamcha talked to Bulma after everyone was teleported to the Earth. So why didn't Goku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the existence of the HTC, so Gohan would train and most likely become stronger than the androids?
I also don't think Goku kept his body in the future.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Because everyone in the future timeline is a gargantuan asshole, perfectly content to abandon everyone on Earth to their prolonged, painful existence. And no, don't tell me "Well Goku couldn't warn him!" or "Well Vegeta is gone!" yeah and what's Piccolo doing in the afterlife? What's his excuse for not badgering King Kai until he contacts New Namek?
And don't tell me King Kai doesn't have to involve himself because it's an Earth problem. King Kai already made such an exception when he helps Bulma figure out where Namek is. This action in no way whatsoever helps the greater universe, it's just him deciding to help out his pupil and his tiny, insignificant planet. Hell, King Kai doesn't even bat an eye when everyone who visits him cheats the system by taking his training, training meant for dead warriors yet Goku and Piccolo and the rest all get it, then cheat by returning to life. Pretty sure that's not meant to happen either but does King Kai care? Nope, so spare me the BS of "King Kai can't intervene!" cause I ain't buying it.
And don't tell me King Kai doesn't have to involve himself because it's an Earth problem. King Kai already made such an exception when he helps Bulma figure out where Namek is. This action in no way whatsoever helps the greater universe, it's just him deciding to help out his pupil and his tiny, insignificant planet. Hell, King Kai doesn't even bat an eye when everyone who visits him cheats the system by taking his training, training meant for dead warriors yet Goku and Piccolo and the rest all get it, then cheat by returning to life. Pretty sure that's not meant to happen either but does King Kai care? Nope, so spare me the BS of "King Kai can't intervene!" cause I ain't buying it.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Where can I see this bonus chapter?Sarcasmos wrote:In a Super bonus chapter future Goku has his body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Goku died of natural causes in the future so his body is gone.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
[spoiler][/spoiler]TobyS wrote:Where can I see this bonus chapter?Sarcasmos wrote:In a Super bonus chapter future Goku has his body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Goku died of natural causes in the future so his body is gone.
You say it like they're actually capable of reaching New Namek.ekrolo2 wrote:Because everyone in the future timeline is a gargantuan asshole, perfectly content to abandon everyone on Earth to their prolonged, painful existence. And no, don't tell me "Well Goku couldn't warn him!" or "Well Vegeta is gone!" yeah and what's Piccolo doing in the afterlife? What's his excuse for not badgering King Kai until he contacts New Namek?
And don't tell me King Kai doesn't have to involve himself because it's an Earth problem. King Kai already made such an exception when he helps Bulma figure out where Namek is. This action in no way whatsoever helps the greater universe, it's just him deciding to help out his pupil and his tiny, insignificant planet. Hell, King Kai doesn't even bat an eye when everyone who visits him cheats the system by taking his training, training meant for dead warriors yet Goku and Piccolo and the rest all get it, then cheat by returning to life. Pretty sure that's not meant to happen either but does King Kai care? Nope, so spare me the BS of "King Kai can't intervene!" cause I ain't buying it.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Don't need to, Goku just uses the phone in kaios back to tell the namekians to gather em up and use them for them.DBZAOTA482 wrote: You say it like they're actually capable of reaching New Namek.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
When Goku died, there were no androids around, so telling Gohan about the RoSaT would not be a pressing issue.Ash57 wrote:Title.
Goku could touch King Kai's back and talk to Gohan just fine, just like he did when Gohan was clashing with Cell and like Yamcha talked to Bulma after everyone was teleported to the Earth. So why didn't Goku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the existence of the HTC, so Gohan would train and most likely become stronger than the androids?
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
dbgtFO wrote:When Goku died, there were no androids around, so telling Gohan about the RoSaT would not be a pressing issue.Ash57 wrote:Title.
Goku could touch King Kai's back and talk to Gohan just fine, just like he did when Gohan was clashing with Cell and like Yamcha talked to Bulma after everyone was teleported to the Earth. So why didn't Goku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the existence of the HTC, so Gohan would train and most likely become stronger than the androids?
That does not matter. You're telling me Goku saw nothing wrong when he saw almost every damn Z fighter in hevean? That is just another excuse Goku should of mentioned the chamber the moment he saw all his friends dead 3 years later. King kai helps out of nowhere in saiyan and Buu saga but he doesn't help now?
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Goku may not ever have become aware that something was up back on Earth and he may not have met his friends in heaven either.Perfectionist-Cell wrote:That does not matter. You're telling me Goku saw nothing wrong when he saw almost every damn Z fighter in hevean? That is just another excuse Goku should of mentioned the chamber the moment he saw all his friends dead 3 years later. King kai helps out of nowhere in saiyan and Buu saga but he doesn't help now?
The thing is we don't know, so blaming Goku, when we don't have such crucial information seems a bit harsh.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Those are major threats. #17 and #18 are only threats to the Earth and nothing else. Vegeta and Nappa have been known to wipe out other planets before. Buu was a threat to the whole universe and even King Enma had Vegeta be sent back to Earth to fight Buu.Perfectionist-Cell wrote: King kai helps out of nowhere in saiyan and Buu saga but he doesn't help now?
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North Kaio specifically helped Goku, his prized student. Excluding outside continuity, he was never concerned with Earth, in particular. Any immediate concern derives from caring about Goku. Otherwise, he watches over all of his planets equally, without interference.
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After everyone died, Goku was probably like "There's not much we can do". Not to mention it's possible that #17 and #18 blew up Kami's Lookout before they can use the Room of Spirit and Time.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Even if it's a "shitty joke" it's still more real than the statement in your first post.DBZAOTA482 wrote:It was just an excuse for a shitty joke.Sarcasmos wrote:In a Super bonus chapter future Goku has his body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Goku died of natural causes in the future so his body is gone.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
dbgtFO wrote:Goku may not ever have become aware that something was up back on Earth and he may not have met his friends in heaven either.Perfectionist-Cell wrote:That does not matter. You're telling me Goku saw nothing wrong when he saw almost every damn Z fighter in hevean? That is just another excuse Goku should of mentioned the chamber the moment he saw all his friends dead 3 years later. King kai helps out of nowhere in saiyan and Buu saga but he doesn't help now?
The thing is we don't know, so blaming Goku, when we don't have such crucial information seems a bit harsh.
Well... I'm going to say this.
Suppose Goku did not meet them. I'm pretty sure Piccolo Tien Yamcha and Chaotzu all went to King Kais planet Vegeta and Krillin may tag along. They tell him their problem and he would be happy to help. They can ask the Nameks to summon Porunga and ask them to wish all of them back to life and fix earth from all the damage the androids inflicted on it. Goku is confused on how he is alive and then Piccolo fills him in when he finds him. They go into the HTC and then goodbye androids.
But there is one flaw with this. Why wouldn't Goku go to King Kai's planet? He always goes there.
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Re: Why didn't FutureGoku use King Kai's abilities to warn Future Gohan of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Perfectionist-Cell wrote:dbgtFO wrote:Goku may not ever have become aware that something was up back on Earth and he may not have met his friends in heaven either.Perfectionist-Cell wrote:That does not matter. You're telling me Goku saw nothing wrong when he saw almost every damn Z fighter in hevean? That is just another excuse Goku should of mentioned the chamber the moment he saw all his friends dead 3 years later. King kai helps out of nowhere in saiyan and Buu saga but he doesn't help now?
The thing is we don't know, so blaming Goku, when we don't have such crucial information seems a bit harsh.
Well... I'm going to say this.
Suppose Goku did not meet them. I'm pretty sure Piccolo Tien Yamcha and Chaotzu all went to King Kais planet Vegeta and Krillin may tag along. They tell him their problem and he would be happy to help. They can ask the Nameks to summon Porunga and ask them to wish all of them back to life and fix earth from all the damage the androids inflicted on it. Goku is confused on how he is alive and then Piccolo fills him in when he finds him. They go into the HTC and then goodbye androids.
But there is one flaw with this. Why wouldn't Goku go to King Kai's planet? He always goes there.
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