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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by theherodjl » Mon May 20, 2019 10:43 pm

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I literally never see the Moon have the right angular size in any fictional media. It ALWAYS looks bigger in just about every fictional setting I can think of. Same with the Sun. Why is Akira Toriyama even being singled out here?

Name 1, no... name 10 fictional settings that depicts the Moon with the right angular size.
Because Akira Toriyama didn't just draw the moon as being bigger than what it actually is, he actually drew the moon as being located right next to the Earth as though it looked exactly like "not to scale" depictions of the sun & moon on diagrams of the solar system. Toei copied this same drawing and had it depicted in the anime.
The point here being that its not about AT or Toei being singled out but that there is enough evidence to support a theory that the Earth is at a different distance in DB like in other mediums of fiction. The theory can be "dumb as shit" to you all you want but it does have some merit to it.
I hate how some people think that Pure Boo is undisputedly the strongest Boo but I wouldn't call it "dumb as shit", just that I don't agree.
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Melee_Sovereign » Tue May 21, 2019 2:07 am

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Mon May 20, 2019 10:43 pm

he actually drew the moon as being located right next to the Earth as though it looked exactly like "not to scale" depictions of the sun & moon on diagrams of the solar system.
When did he do this?

Even if he did, he's still far from alone in doing this. It's a sort of thing you see all the time in animation and cartoons. Still no reason to single him out.

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by theherodjl » Tue May 21, 2019 2:54 am

Melee_Sovereign wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 2:07 am
theherodjl wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:43 pm

he actually drew the moon as being located right next to the Earth as though it looked exactly like "not to scale" depictions of the sun & moon on diagrams of the solar system.
When did he do this?

Even if he did, he's still far from alone in doing this. It's a sort of thing you see all the time in animation and cartoons. Still no reason to single him out.
Here, Toriyama's drawing on the left and Toei's on the right.
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue May 21, 2019 5:32 am

Once again, it's artistic license. There's a scene in the Jaco manga where Jaco's spaceship crashes into the moon and the moon only appears to be a few times bigger than the ship. That's obviously not meant to be the case.
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by theherodjl » Tue May 21, 2019 6:20 am

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Once again, it's artistic license. There's a scene in the Jaco manga where Jaco's spaceship crashes into the moon and the moon only appears to be a few times bigger than the ship. That's obviously not meant to be the case.
That's a gag scene, the depiction of Earth from Freeza's ship is serious on the other hand.
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue May 21, 2019 12:34 pm

theherodjl wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 6:20 am
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Tue May 21, 2019 5:32 am
Once again, it's artistic license. There's a scene in the Jaco manga where Jaco's spaceship crashes into the moon and the moon only appears to be a few times bigger than the ship. That's obviously not meant to be the case.
That's a gag scene, the depiction of Earth from Freeza's ship is serious on the other hand.
No, it's really not. You're making mountains out of anthills for no reason.

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue May 21, 2019 4:26 pm

theherodjl wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 6:20 am
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:32 am
Once again, it's artistic license. There's a scene in the Jaco manga where Jaco's spaceship crashes into the moon and the moon only appears to be a few times bigger than the ship. That's obviously not meant to be the case.
That's a gag scene, the depiction of Earth from Freeza's ship is serious on the other hand.
Goku taking Boss Rabbit and his gang to the moon is also a gag scene. Yet you don't seem to have a problem using it for your argument.
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Nokra » Tue May 21, 2019 5:49 pm

That kakarot last name
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Nokra » Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 pm

Kakarots last name is son.

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Melee_Sovereign » Tue May 21, 2019 7:22 pm

theherodjl wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 2:54 am

Here, Toriyama's drawing on the left and Toei's on the right.
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The funny thing about outer space is it's 3-dimensional. You can literally view the Earth-Moon system from any position.

The scan on the left is perfectly acceptable seeing as the Moon is just a spec. The Moon is very likely much further off into the distance than the Earth, with the path between the two bodies being near parallel to our perspective. The problem is you're assuming the path between the Moon and Earth is perpendicular to your perspective, when it probably isn't. Toei's illustration is also perfectly acceptable, although it can be an opposite case where the Moon is closer than the Earth, with again, the path between them being near parallel to the reader's perspective. Here's a picture I took myself in Universe Sandbox simulator to give you an idea what I mean for the manga scan. Universe Sandbox has all the celestial bodies and their distances to scale. I can take any picture I want from any perspective. I can zoom in in two dimensions, or three.

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The Moon is further off into the distance than the Earth from my perspective (the distance being to scale to the Moon's actual distance). The path between the Moon and Earth is not perpendicular to my perspective, but rather, near parallel.

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by mute_proxy » Wed May 22, 2019 1:55 am

Nokra wrote:
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Kakarots last name is son.
Goku's family name is Son, so it is his last name. It's not a fan theory

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Nokra » Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 am

mute_proxy wrote:
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Kakarots last name is son.
Goku's family name is Son, so it is his last name. It's not a fan theory
Kakarot has no last name.

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by mute_proxy » Wed May 22, 2019 9:33 am

Nokra wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 am
mute_proxy wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:55 am
Nokra wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 pm
Kakarots last name is son.
Goku's family name is Son, so it is his last name. It's not a fan theory
Kakarot has no last name.
But the character that also has the name Kakarot, does.

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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Nokra » Wed May 22, 2019 9:49 am

mute_proxy wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 9:33 am
Nokra wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 am
mute_proxy wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:55 am


Goku's family name is Son, so it is his last name. It's not a fan theory
Kakarot has no last name.
But the character that also has the name Kakarot, does.
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Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Post by Melee_Sovereign » Wed May 22, 2019 2:39 pm

Nokra wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 am
mute_proxy wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 1:55 am
Nokra wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 pm
Kakarots last name is son.
Goku's family name is Son, so it is his last name. It's not a fan theory
Kakarot has no last name.
Why are you deliberately being obtuse? Just say that Goku doesn't have a Saiyan last name.

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