Is Ultra Instinct The *Final* Or *Ultimate* Powerup For Goku?

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Re: Is Ultra Instinct The *Final* Or *Ultimate* Powerup For Goku?

Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:17 am

theherodjl wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Nothing is sacred. Give it time and there will be something. There is no high nor low the series probably won't go to eventually.
So what are we looking at? Goku has discovered the ultimate martial art with UI, how is he going to surpass that?
How did he surpass a legendery, once in a lifetime, transformation? He'll find a way.

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Re: Is Ultra Instinct The *Final* Or *Ultimate* Powerup For Goku?

Post by theherodjl » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:04 am

Lord Frieza wrote:How did he surpass a legendery, once in a lifetime, transformation? He'll find a way.
UI is more than just another transformation that Saiyans can achieve, it is the pinnacle of martial might & skill that is referred to "the state of the Gods(equal to the Hakaishin apparently)" and is the fighting style of the Angels. Unless Whis or Daishinkan have something better that they're not informing Goku about then there's no greater powerup to be obtained. From what it seems, all Goku can do is just linearly increase his general power and that will cause his UI to rise in strength proportionately.
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Re: Is Ultra Instinct The *Final* Or *Ultimate* Powerup For Goku?

Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:40 am

theherodjl wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:How did he surpass a legendery, once in a lifetime, transformation? He'll find a way.
UI is more than just another transformation that Saiyans can achieve, it is the pinnacle of martial might & skill that is referred to "the state of the Gods(equal to the Hakaishin apparently)" and is the fighting style of the Angels. Unless Whis or Daishinkan have something better that they're not informing Goku about then there's no greater powerup to be obtained. From what it seems, all Goku can do is just linearly increase his general power and that will cause his UI to rise in strength proportionately.
Super Saiyan was a legendery form that was which could only be achieved by one saiyan every few generations, it has vertually god like statues for the saiyans and is the pinnacle of power Saiyan's strive for. Yet now its the bottom rung of a ladder with multiple branches.

"Pinnacle of martial might & skill" could be used for vertually ever new form and powerup Goku has gotten over the years and he surpassed it time & again, often to the detriment of the series. I would very much like the buck to stop at UI, especially since they seem to be going down the root that Goku can currently only use it in a highly intense battle. But the series has time and again pushed further and created new forms and power ups it didn't need. Why would it stop now? You've even just stated a likely candidate for further learning in the Daishinkan and there is always the very real possibility of even stronger beings if the series decided to expand on it's alternate timeline or multiverse ideas. Hell we have just found out that U7 has a two beings of incredible power that everyone seemed to be totally unaware of, Broly and Molo the Planet Eater.

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Re: Is Ultra Instinct The *Final* Or *Ultimate* Powerup For Goku?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:00 pm

theherodjl wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Nothing is sacred. Give it time and there will be something. There is no high nor low the series probably won't go to eventually.
So what are we looking at? Goku has discovered the ultimate martial art with UI, how is he going to surpass that?
Pretty sure people said the same thing with Super Saiyan back in the day, and Super Saiyan God. "How do you go beyond Super Saiyan? It's the legendary form." "How do you go beyond Super Saiyan God. It's a God form!" Pretty sure people thought that before later, we got our answer. So we probably will get that answer eventually. Dragon Ball never stops escalating.
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