List Of Things That Turned Out To Be False Later On.

theherodjl · Post by **theherodjl** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:42 am

Like Goku claiming SSJ3 couldn't defeat Fat Boo or that the Potara were permanent for everyone who used them?

Polyphase Avatron · Post by **Polyphase Avatron** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:01 am

[Insert name here] is the strongest fighter ever.

SupremeKai25 · Post by **SupremeKai25** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:21 am

Whis' theory about Goku Black. He though that Zamasu used the Super Dragon Balls to create a fake copy of Goku while in reality Goku Black is just Goku's body possessed by an alternate timeline's Zamasu.

Also, when everyone fought that erasing Zamasu in the present would undo his work in the future. Sadly old Beerus didn't account for the Time Ring that protected Black from any change to the past.

MasenkoHA · Post by **MasenkoHA** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:27 am

The story Roshi gives for the Dragon Balls origins in episode 33

The origin Kaiou gives for Planet Vegeta’s demise in the Saiyajin arc

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:12 am

Future Trunks states Android 19 and 20 were responsible for killing the main cast and wrecking his world, then it later turns out to be Android 17 and 18 who were responsible for that.

ruler9871 · Post by **ruler9871** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:33 pm

That SSJ was an one & only thing

Cursed Lemon · Post by **Cursed Lemon** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:56 pm

The whole planet Vegeta + meteor debacle.

PremiumSalt · Post by **PremiumSalt** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:20 pm

Goku having been sent to earth as a baby to eradicate all life on it.

TobyS · Post by **TobyS** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:27 pm

PremiumSalt wrote:Goku having been sent to earth as a baby to eradicate all life on it.

This is still what pod babies did. So you could argue they still expected him to do that. It can still work either way. It's almost a linguistic/philosophical problem.

I mean his parents sent him there to survive, knowing pod babies wipe out planets.
Raditz assumes he was sent as a pod baby TO wipe out all life.
He's still vicious in minus till the head bump in canon.

People act like Broly/Minus changed more than it actually did.

He's going to grow up and wipe out the planet anyway, it's just a case of wether that was a goal in and of itself.

If anything I think it makes it more dark, they didn't want to wipe out earth, they just didn't even care that he would. It's like the famous Chomsky vs Harris e-mail debate. Are islamists killing civilians deliberatly morally worse than US imperialism stepping on people like ants, but not caring at all, as they are collatoral damage. Do islamists ironically perscribe more value to their victims.

TobyS · Post by **TobyS** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:29 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Future Trunks states Android 19 and 20 were responsible for killing the main cast and wrecking his world, then it later turns out to be Android 17 and 18 who were responsible for that.

I wonder why they never fixed this in reprintings it's a literal plot hole, not just a twist or retcon...

RedRibbonSoldier#42 · Post by **RedRibbonSoldier#42** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:21 am

kaiou is the highest god in the universe.

TobyS · Post by **TobyS** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:43 am

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:kaiou is the highest god in the universe.

Does anyone say he is? I only remember him being stated to be above Emna.

Steven Bloodriver · Post by **Steven Bloodriver** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:38 pm

theherodjl wrote:Like Goku claiming SSJ3 couldn't defeat Fat Boo or that the Potara were permanent for everyone who used them?

Son Goku was merely passing the torch to those younger than him, but like Son Gohan before them, Trunks Brief, Son Goten, and especially Gotenks were really too immature to take any threat seriously. The innards of Super Buu (Ultimate Jobber, Mr. Piccolo, Prissy Playboy, and Minion of the Prissy Playboy Absorbed) had canceled out the effects of the pair of Potara worn by Son Goku and Vegeta (Angel) to give birth to Vegito by dissolving the Kaioshin Magic of the Potara.

Steven Bloodriver · Post by **Steven Bloodriver** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:44 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:[Insert name here] is the strongest fighter ever.

From the top of my head I can think of four from Dragon Ball Z, Vegeta since the Saiyan Saga, Frieza since the Planet Namek Saga, Cell since the Androids Saga, and Hercule since the Cell Games Saga.

Darkprince410 · Post by **Darkprince410** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:01 pm

TobyS wrote:
RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:kaiou is the highest god in the universe.
Does anyone say he is? I only remember him being stated to be above Emna.

The oni that drives Goku from Enma's to the head of Serpent Road says that he stands above all the other gods of the universe.

Spoiler:

Steven Bloodriver · Post by **Steven Bloodriver** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:10 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote:Whis' theory about Goku Black. He though that Zamasu used the Super Dragon Balls to create a fake copy of Goku while in reality Goku Black is just Goku's body possessed by an alternate timeline's Zamasu.

Also, when everyone fought that erasing Zamasu in the present would undo his work in the future. Sadly old Beerus didn't account for the Time Ring that protected Black from any change to the past.

Not to mention the all-to-obvious fact that Son Goku and the Z Fighters had to pay the price of an entire timeline being erased by the Future Omni-King for not taking Goku Black out while they had the chance to do so when the Dark Saiyan Beyond God had visited their timeline with his Time Ring.

TobyS · Post by **TobyS** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:15 pm

Darkprince410 wrote:
TobyS wrote:
RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:kaiou is the highest god in the universe.
Does anyone say he is? I only remember him being stated to be above Emna.
The oni that drives Goku from Enma's to the head of Serpent Road says that he stands above all the other gods of the universe.

Spoiler:

Interesting. Isn't it a theme that higher levels are kinda secret. Like Piccolo thinks Shin might be the grand kaio and wasn't sure there even was a supreme Kaioshin.

Quite plausible it's classified and the oni is assuming.

But yeah out of universe a soft retcon for sure.

Kanzenshuu

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