Bodies in the afterlife.

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Bodies in the afterlife.

Post by TobyS » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:03 am

So we are told that Goku, and then the other dragon team boys are given bodies by Kami. Who restores even chaozus. They then have to ask Yemnas permission anyway for them to run off and use those bodies in the afterlife.

Kuririn dies on Namek and this is outside kaios jurisdiction. By definition it's fair assume it's outside kamis too which is why they use a wish transporting kuririns soul to earth and then back to life rather than more efficiently kami restoring his body at the checkout or elsewhere in the afterlife and bringing him back with only one wish.

We later see Goku get special permission to keep his body without a Kami both restoring and justifying it. This is said to be reward for saving the world.

Vegeta doesn't keep his but is retroactively given his back by Emna as a backup in these existence threatening scenario or Buu rampaging.

So this gives some questions.

1. Why aren't the future z-team able to contact the namekians and be wished back or use baba to come back for one day, even if baba was killed you'd think they could have Kami restore their bodies and use kaio to contact the nameks.
We also see Goku shown as having a body in one panel of toyos special chapter but this is a jokey image where he says “oh I'm dead” so it could be just a representation of him and not a statement that he canonically kept his body.

So by definition do we have to assume that :

A) Kami restored there bodies or would have done but found out they wouldn't be allowed to use kaio to contact the Nameks because they weren't a threat to more then one planet and/or kaio can't contact a planet outside kaios jurisdiction for dead guys from his place to sort out a non universe wide conflict?
B) Baba also died before she could help/died before they had trained enough in the afterlife to be strong enough to help.
C) Goku didn't keep his body and was already gone by then/wasn't allowed to use kaio to contact the nameks either. It was made a point that he got it for his cell heroics specifically so he must not of had a body regardless of what toyo showed.

2. Does Gokus earning a body after the cell games last forever? Or would he have to do an similarly good deed in dying after he's brought back in the Buu saga?
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