I don't say none of that ...Rakurai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:53 amI'm sorry, what? The bold is the pinnacle definition of "fan theory/headcanon" at its finest.
Goku coming back w/o the suit =/= not needing it, especially when literally the only time we see him side the Earth's core is with the suit. Episode made it quite clear he would've died w/o the suit.
goku is not affirming anything ... he only gives a supposition that is contradicted later and you cannot deny that ..
something that everyone noticed even those who comment here
and anyway ... vegeta manages to overcome absolute zero in ssj
you compare reality with fiction ... but I'm the one who commits fallacies?Rakurai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:53 amFrom my PoV, it is you committing fallacies by using hyperboles like 'absolute zero' to claim it means something. This is why ppl like you cant be taken seriously. The most correct way to powerscaling is to compare feats between characters vs. characters, not characters vs. rocks, in the same work. Because the former establishes an accurate truth (but not necessarily infallible), the latter never does.
Also I give zero shits about feats in Digimon, Saint Seiya, etc. We are talking about DB here. When you start comparing DB to other franchises your whole argument falls apart.
But it's clear I'm not going to be able to convince you on anything. So agree to disagree, this will be my last message on this. No DB writer will ever follow these fan theory tier lists in the first place, especially not fans comparing GT to Super like destructive feats ever meant anything in the first place.
Pan hits rildo and Roshi fights with Jiren, of course ...
kamba fights vegito bluken but can't beat jiren lol
it does not invalidate anything ... I give you saying that you are being too closed with respect to the techniques ... comparing them with real things and saying that they are incoherent when everyone has seen those things before in fiction and has nothing absurd at all
It means a lot ... because it is the power that the scriptwriters and the author want to give their characters ... for something there are declarations, for something there are facts and other official material
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"Super Saiyan Grade Five (Strongest Form) An aura with sparks like flashes of lightning and an upright, combative hairstyle are the distinguishing features of this, the strongest Saiyan warrior! One’s personality also becomes aggressive; even the ordinarily gentle Gohan started to enjoy battle! Its power is enough to push back even Cell’s energy bullet, which had enough force to blow away the Solar System."
they give it importance ... because it is ...
Each screenwriter has a different idea and perspective when it comes to creating the power and limits of his character ... even without knowing what will come next with other series based on the same work
and when comparing the simply who showed better feats and that's all
I will tell you one last thing .... they can change the power of a character or transformation simply to sell you that even though before I did not show so much power that is not a novelty
Bardock Xeno, SSJ4, SSL and Gogeta etc etc