He used the words like "eternal" and "permanent".Mireya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:03 pmIt's stated by who? Old Kaioshin? The same being who was against the usage of the DBs as they were only supposed to be used by the Namekians? No, your logic is the one broken. Pack it up.Ripper 30 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:13 amAnd it's stated that once defused nothing can undo fusion by Potara. The Potara create permanent beings for life. No your logic had loopholes, the mechanical parts are functioning same as potara here. Yea Potara fusion is still them too forever with your logic. So mechanical parts were one with them but not bomb? Even though both were part of their body. Potaras aren't removal implantations, they are supposed to merge beings eternally.Mireya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:16 am
It doesn't matter if the earrings create a powerful being. The power of uniting the bodies and keeping them united comes from them, so it's against them that Shenlong is fighting against when it spearates the individual, not against the individual formed by them. The androids aren't fully androids (cyborgs would be more accurate then), but the mechanic parts are considered one with them... their mechanic parts are still themselves, so the ability to turn this new being into humans again is beyond Shenlong. When they wish for the bomb to be removed it was already within Shenlong's capabilities, because that, much like the earrings, wasn't one with the androids, so the whole sequence isn't as random and inconsistent as you think. The bombs implanted in their bodies are comparable to the Potaras to Kibitoshin, not their mechanical constitution.
Old Kaioshin was also against the usage of the DBs to beings besides the Namekians so it makes sense he wouldn't consider it in his speeches.
Him not considering them doesn't have anything to do with even Goku never considering Dragon Balls to unfuse when throughout whole arc he was all about using Dragon Balls to solve issues be it Fat Boo destroying or Kid Boo yet somehow he doesn't take Dragon Ball into consideration? Yea no.
He explicitly told Vegeta, they can't go back to being 2 persons ever again despite knowing about Dragon Balls and he wouldn't tell that to a guy who was least interested in fusing.
The bomb wasn't a single one to the androids. It was an artifact hanging there on its own and wasn't blend with their own, so per say. So it isn't the same. Shenlong also pointed out that removing the bombs isn't changing their nature, so it's just different from just changing the structure of their body that it's part of their being. Clearly.
Except Goku has no knowledge on the whole thing. He only took Old Kaioshin's word for granted, as this latter said it couldn't be undone. He not taking time to ponder on the DB's effect on the earrings has nothing to do with their actual effect on the earrings. Besides, this is DB we are talking about... a show that the characters rarely do think about logical ways out certain situations.
Doesn't matter. Goku just didn't think the DBs would be able to do it or he just didn't even consider them... it's not reminiscent of their actual capability on this.
It was literally part of the internal systems of cyborgs Post-modification.
Goku throughout the whole arc was relying on Dragon Balls and there's no reason to not bring up Dragon Ball as solution to permanency of Potara but instead he was worried about going to highschool with Gohan. He literally was standing there thinking and all he can come up was consequence of him being permenently merged. Yea I love your out of Universe explanation, "My headcanon is not working but hey its DB hahaha"
Ok so with Fat Boo destruction, with Kid Boo he's aware of Dragon Ball but suddenly he's not here and even told his rival who was against merging that he will never split back? Yea no.
I love how you suddenly went inside Goku's mind there and can almost rewrite DB.
Mad Swami wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 amI just want to say I also don't think it should of happened even if it theoretically could. Nothing is being done with either Shin or Kibbito really so why defuse? Not to mention I like Kibbito kai design wise and character wise. It is like a symbolic way to show Shin transition into more of a real kai. Idk
They literally defused in the arc where Super Dragon Balls were introduced, they should have used them since it's way more powerful than anything and has no flaws. Them defusing via Porunga is a plothole since Dragons can't grant wishes surpassing them, he can't revert 18 back to her old self coz of power. He reverted Piccolo Daimao coz he was on-par or weaker than Kami, Kibitokai was way stronger than Muri and he shouldn't have been able to do it.