How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

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How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:47 pm

Considering the fact Frieza in Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku was decades younger than he was during the Planet Namek Saga, would that mean Frieza was weaker than when he went to Planet Namek?

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by Koitsukai » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:18 pm

He looked the same back then as in Z. He never trained, only sparred with his father but we don't know to what extent. I'm guessing he was as strong as in Z. He was clearly older than in early DBS Broly, so perhaps that spar with King Cold happened between his introduction and Minus.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by Lionel » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:04 pm

Outside of the father-son sparring that Koitsukai mentioned, Freeza probably didn't do much of anything. In fact, unless Freeza's race is clarified to retain their power regardless of how much physical activity they engage in, you would think Freeza's body would have atrophied and grown weaker due to lack of said activity. It seems like he primarily sits in his hover chair administrating his empire.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by Sadala Elite » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:43 pm

He was just as strong as he was at the Namek saga. The Freeza race naturally maintains their strength even when they don't train (Freeza never trained before RoF).

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by theherodjl » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:16 pm

I think its possible that Freeza can grow stronger just by keeping up with moderate exercise, to become thousands of times stronger by using Tagoma as a punching bag for 4 months means that Freeza's Ki must rise unintentionally if he simply works up a sweat on any given day. That may just be why Freeza previously remained in his first form and in a hoverchair much of the time, he didn't care to actually increase his strength anymore than it had grown.
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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:19 pm

He's the same.

Freeza said he never trained in his life in RoF so he has the same power since birth.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by TobyS » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:10 am

Yeah if his race has some equivalent of puberty he probably got some proportional increase from that, but otherwise yeah, same as the day he was born.
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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by Psajdak » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:53 pm

Better question is, how much stronger Freeza in now, after facing the likes of SSB, Toppo, Jiren, and Broly, if he gained so much after beating up Tagoma.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:53 pm

Psajdak wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:53 pm Better question is, how much stronger Freeza in now, after facing the likes of SSB, Toppo, Jiren, and Broly, if he gained so much after beating up Tagoma.
I thought it was implied that he maxed out and the only thing he gained was True Golden Frieza.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by Sadala Elite » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:49 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:53 pm
Psajdak wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:53 pm Better question is, how much stronger Freeza in now, after facing the likes of SSB, Toppo, Jiren, and Broly, if he gained so much after beating up Tagoma.
I thought it was implied that he maxed out and the only thing he gained was True Golden Frieza.
The Broly movie flat out stated that Freeza got stronger after the ToP.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:42 pm

Sadala Elite wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:49 pm
miguelnuva1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:53 pm
Psajdak wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:53 pm Better question is, how much stronger Freeza in now, after facing the likes of SSB, Toppo, Jiren, and Broly, if he gained so much after beating up Tagoma.
I thought it was implied that he maxed out and the only thing he gained was True Golden Frieza.
The Broly movie flat out stated that Freeza got stronger after the ToP.
I thought Vegeta said he was afraid Frieza might get a new form and get stronger.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by BagetaSama » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:50 pm

He was the same. I see no reason to believe Freeza had increased his power in between Planet Vegeta's destruction, and the Namek arc. Nothing in the older material nor modern material suggests it.

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Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

Post by funrush » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:05 am

The whole premise of his crazy powerboost in RoF is that he literally never trained in his entire life. So I'd imagine that back then he was pretty much the same as he was in the Freeza arc.
miguelnuva1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:53 pm
Psajdak wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:53 pm Better question is, how much stronger Freeza in now, after facing the likes of SSB, Toppo, Jiren, and Broly, if he gained so much after beating up Tagoma.
I thought it was implied that he maxed out and the only thing he gained was True Golden Frieza.
Nah, Goku or Vegeta ridicules him in RoF for heading straight to Earth after getting that form, because if he spent more time training he probably would have won.

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