DB vs the moon
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DB vs the moon
The DBZ:Kakarot's retcon or whatever you wanna call it, triggered this thread but it is something that was always on my mind:
I won't even touch the fact that the world would go crazy without the moon, so let's go pass that.
Roshi destroys the moon in DB
Piccolo destroys the moon in DBZ and it remains destroyed and that's why Vegeta couldn't find it.
What happened to the moon? after Roshi destroyed it to de-transform Ohzaru Goku, it appeared again in DBZ for Piccolo to blow it up once again. Was it wished back in DB? how come Piccolo had to do it again? also, I can't tell if the moon is ever seen again after that, I think I have seen it but I can't be sure. Was it wished back again? I know it doesn't regenerate by itself, but there it was for Gohan to go ohzaru. Was it wished back off-screen?
Is there an in-universe explanation I am missing for this moon issue?
I won't even touch the fact that the world would go crazy without the moon, so let's go pass that.
Roshi destroys the moon in DB
Piccolo destroys the moon in DBZ and it remains destroyed and that's why Vegeta couldn't find it.
What happened to the moon? after Roshi destroyed it to de-transform Ohzaru Goku, it appeared again in DBZ for Piccolo to blow it up once again. Was it wished back in DB? how come Piccolo had to do it again? also, I can't tell if the moon is ever seen again after that, I think I have seen it but I can't be sure. Was it wished back again? I know it doesn't regenerate by itself, but there it was for Gohan to go ohzaru. Was it wished back off-screen?
Is there an in-universe explanation I am missing for this moon issue?
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iirc When Kami approaches Goku offering to train him he mentions that he wants to remove Goku's tail and recreate the moon. Goku doesn't realize what one has to do with the other but Kami tells him not to worry about it. Been a long time since I read the Piccolo Daimao Arc so I miight be wrong.
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Since there's no longer any Oozaru tails to worry about, you might think either Kami or Dende would proceed in rebuilding it for the second and hopefully final time. Destroying Earth's natural satellite like that must have some ramifications for the planet. Although it's just as likely that Toriyama didn't put much thought into the matter and decided to have it remain destroyed.
Under different circumstances, the planet's rotations, ocean tides, and axial tilt would be altered if Toriyama was trying to make the consequences as realistic as possible (not the best phrase to use when discussing Toriyama's writings though). Jackie Chun and Piccolo would become pariahs with who knows how much damage and loss of life having been inadvertently caused at their hands.
Under different circumstances, the planet's rotations, ocean tides, and axial tilt would be altered if Toriyama was trying to make the consequences as realistic as possible (not the best phrase to use when discussing Toriyama's writings though). Jackie Chun and Piccolo would become pariahs with who knows how much damage and loss of life having been inadvertently caused at their hands.
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You know, that's probably exactly why the Z Senshi refuse fame & fortune for their actions: they have been responsible, directly & indirectly, for a lot of the chaos plaguing the Earth over the past couple centuries. For the Z Senshi to take credit for solving the various crises threatening the world would also lead to having acknowledged that they also caused them in the first place. The public backlash from the population of Earth might force Goku & Co into obscurity...and that's why they simply let a weakling like Mr. Satan claim victory for defeating various villains, the truth is actually worse.Lionel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:41 pm Since there's no longer any Oozaru tails to worry about, you might think either Kami or Dende would proceed in rebuilding it for the second and hopefully final time. Destroying Earth's natural satellite like that must have some ramifications for the planet. Although it's just as likely that Toriyama didn't put much thought into the matter and decided to have it remain destroyed.
Under different circumstances, the planet's rotations, ocean tides, and axial tilt would be altered if Toriyama was trying to make the consequences as realistic as possible (not the best phrase to use when discussing Toriyama's writings though). Jackie Chun and Piccolo would become pariahs with who knows how much damage and loss of life having been inadvertently caused at their hands.
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I remember hearing somewhere that Toriyama ditched tails because he couldn't figure out how Saiyans would wear pants with them. While I don't believe that story I do like the idea of him obsessing over insignificant minutiae but totally missing the much larger and obvious glaring problem that having no moon creates.
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That does ring a bell, I shall go over that arc as well.It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:17 pm iirc When Kami approaches Goku offering to train him he mentions that he wants to remove Goku's tail and recreate the moon. Goku doesn't realize what one has to do with the other but Kami tells him not to worry about it. Been a long time since I read the Piccolo Daimao Arc so I miight be wrong.
But after Piccolo did it because of Gohan, there were no more mentions about the moon, right? by the time the saiyans arrive the moon is still gone, so if Kami recreated it again it must've been after Freeza was defeated and somewhere between Goku's arrival from Yadrat.
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Well I take it as When Kami was revived, he brought it back. That or the Earth endured a while with no moon until resurrecting Tien(Because they got 3 wishes if I am remembering correctly, two for Tien and Chaiotzu and the final for the moon
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IMO the Moon was recreated after the Boo saga, with the Dragon Balls.