How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
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How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
All during the Buu Saga. As this is Buuhan, there's already one Mystic Gohan in him already
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SS3 is 8x stronger than SS. Buuhan would need to become 10x stronger at least to match SS3 Vegito.
How many Gohans is that? I have no idea, Buuhan didn't become 2x stronger than Buutenks, so I guess a lot of Gohans
How many Gohans is that? I have no idea, Buuhan didn't become 2x stronger than Buutenks, so I guess a lot of Gohans
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Buutenks defused, so it was just like Super Buu + Mystic Gohan at that point
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Possibly nine? SSJ Vegetto was superior to Buuhan by a noticeable degree but it wasn't to the extent that he could simply tank attacks with no damage suffered or retaliate without having to exert himself at points.
If only Buuhan could have looked into what Gohan and Piccolo's memories recalled of the Kaioken -- Vegetto would be outmatched. Who knows? It could be that he would be forced into seeking out Elder Kaioshin for the potential unlock as a desperation move.
If only Buuhan could have looked into what Gohan and Piccolo's memories recalled of the Kaioken -- Vegetto would be outmatched. Who knows? It could be that he would be forced into seeking out Elder Kaioshin for the potential unlock as a desperation move.
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I would agree nine I guess. Buuhan was able to rival SSJ1 Vegito so with an 8x boost he should be able to rival Vegito SSJ3. However to secure a victory I would say 10-11 total.
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Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
And how many more Mystic Gohans to beat SSJ2 Vegito?
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Actually, Buuhan could just shunkanido his ass to King Kai's planet, absorb him and try the kaioken. KKx10 Buuhan would definitely call for a SS3 Vegito, even if a 10x boost isn't enough to defeat that kind of power, it would still be superior to SS2. The question would be can Buu use techniques stored in the absorbee's mind or does he have to see them in action?Lionel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:15 pm Possibly nine? SSJ Vegetto was superior to Buuhan by a noticeable degree but it wasn't to the extent that he could simply tank attacks with no damage suffered or retaliate without having to exert himself at points.
If only Buuhan could have looked into what Gohan and Piccolo's memories recalled of the Kaioken -- Vegetto would be outmatched. Who knows? It could be that he would be forced into seeking out Elder Kaioshin for the potential unlock as a desperation move.
SS2 Vegito is 2x stronger than Suppa Vegito, and perhaps 4x stronger than Buuhan(maybe less), so maybe another Gohan to match SS Vegito, and another one to match SS2? that is if Gohan provides a 2x boost for Buu, maybe it's just 1.5x, who knows?
Buuhan 10
SS Vegito 20
SS2 Vegito 40
SS3 Vegito 160
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Oh so if Buuhan found a way to make Goten and Trunks fuse in him, adding a SSJ3 Gotenks to his power, it would have been close to SSJ Vegito alreadyKoitsukai wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:12 pmActually, Buuhan could just shunkanido his ass to King Kai's planet, absorb him and try the kaioken. KKx10 Buuhan would definitely call for a SS3 Vegito, even if a 10x boost isn't enough to defeat that kind of power, it would still be superior to SS2. The question would be can Buu use techniques stored in the absorbee's mind or does he have to see them in action?Lionel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:15 pm Possibly nine? SSJ Vegetto was superior to Buuhan by a noticeable degree but it wasn't to the extent that he could simply tank attacks with no damage suffered or retaliate without having to exert himself at points.
If only Buuhan could have looked into what Gohan and Piccolo's memories recalled of the Kaioken -- Vegetto would be outmatched. Who knows? It could be that he would be forced into seeking out Elder Kaioshin for the potential unlock as a desperation move.
SS2 Vegito is 2x stronger than Suppa Vegito, and perhaps 4x stronger than Buuhan(maybe less), so maybe another Gohan to match SS Vegito, and another one to match SS2? that is if Gohan provides a 2x boost for Buu, maybe it's just 1.5x, who knows?
Buuhan 10
SS Vegito 20
SS2 Vegito 40
SS3 Vegito 160
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I think so, yes. Vegito would've still won, but probably without so much flair. Talking about the manga, in the anime base Vegito is already enough for Buuhan.Angelus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:45 pmOh so if Buuhan found a way to make Goten and Trunks fuse in him, adding a SSJ3 Gotenks to his power, it would have been close to SSJ Vegito alreadyKoitsukai wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:12 pmActually, Buuhan could just shunkanido his ass to King Kai's planet, absorb him and try the kaioken. KKx10 Buuhan would definitely call for a SS3 Vegito, even if a 10x boost isn't enough to defeat that kind of power, it would still be superior to SS2. The question would be can Buu use techniques stored in the absorbee's mind or does he have to see them in action?Lionel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:15 pm Possibly nine? SSJ Vegetto was superior to Buuhan by a noticeable degree but it wasn't to the extent that he could simply tank attacks with no damage suffered or retaliate without having to exert himself at points.
If only Buuhan could have looked into what Gohan and Piccolo's memories recalled of the Kaioken -- Vegetto would be outmatched. Who knows? It could be that he would be forced into seeking out Elder Kaioshin for the potential unlock as a desperation move.
SS2 Vegito is 2x stronger than Suppa Vegito, and perhaps 4x stronger than Buuhan(maybe less), so maybe another Gohan to match SS Vegito, and another one to match SS2? that is if Gohan provides a 2x boost for Buu, maybe it's just 1.5x, who knows?
Buuhan 10
SS Vegito 20
SS2 Vegito 40
SS3 Vegito 160
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If going we're going by the anime, Boohan would need to absorb more than 400 Ultimate Gohans in order to match SSJ3 Vegetto. Base Vegetto was outmatching Boohan in hand to hand combat and then kicked back his planet buster with only some effort but even then, Vegetto may have just been milking it to make it look like he was having any trouble. Since fusion gave Goku & Vegeta at least a double boost over what the Ultimate state did for Gohan, Boohan would need a minimum of 800 Ultimate Gohans to bridge the gap against SSJ3 Vegetto.
As for the manga, Base Vegetto is somewhat implied to be weaker than Boohan so I imagine that Boo would need to absorb significantly less Ultimate Gohans to defeat SSJ3 Vegetto.
As for the manga, Base Vegetto is somewhat implied to be weaker than Boohan so I imagine that Boo would need to absorb significantly less Ultimate Gohans to defeat SSJ3 Vegetto.
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Gohan was about half Buuhan's power so he'd need like 20 more.
Vegito was paying was playing with Buu the entire time.
Vegito was paying was playing with Buu the entire time.
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So Gotenks is stronger than Gogeta and Vegetto in your logic?
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Goku can go ssj3, its stated Vegito has access to everything Goku and Vegeta have.
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Sure, but Vegerot going SS3 is entirely headcanon.
Great strawman. Having SS3 doesn't equate to automatically being stronger, just look at BoG and Rage-boosted SS2 Vegeta surpassing SS3 Goku.
Never stated in the series at all.miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:25 pmGoku can go ssj3, its stated Vegito has access to everything Goku and Vegeta have.
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Abilities aren't transformations. What you're arguing right now is the equivalent of saying a fusion between Hercule and Freeza would be able to go Golden.
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A transformation is an ability. Techniques and transformations are both abilities. Also if Vegito can go Ssj why cant he go ssj3.
Also where is the proof that if Frieza fused his fusion couldn't use Golden.
We also have seen fusions can later use the god forms.
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You're being disingenuous by arguing a technique anyone can learn, for example the Kamehameha, is the same as a transformation unique to a certain race.miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:18 amA transformation is an ability. Techniques and transformations are both abilities. Also if Vegito can go Ssj why cant he go ssj3.
Also where is the proof that if Frieza fused his fusion couldn't use Golden.
We also have seen fusions can later use the god forms.
We've never seen a fusion in the series use a unique transformation only one of the fusees had. Purely headcanon to insinuate Vegerot could use SS3, just like how it's purely headcanon to suggest a fusion of Freeza and Hercule could go Golden.
The difference is Gogeta / Vegerot are the fusions of a Vegeta and Goku who both have SSB. Goku's the only one with the transformation SS3.