What is your Franchise Head-Canon?
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What is your Franchise Head-Canon?
Basically as the title says, what is your personal canon? I'm not sure how I currently feel about the movies right now, but at the moment I have a pretty good lock in on the anime series, and manga themselves: Since Super wasn't a thing at the time of GT, I consider GT a sequel "Side-Story" to DBZ filler and all (Super didn't happen). As far as Super goes, In my opinion it happened in Kai's timeline, since it follows the manga more closely (GT didn't happen). Obviously, I consider the Dragon Ball manga, and Super Manga to be in the same timeline as well. So all in all, I suppose I have two separate Canons, DB-DBZ-GT (excluding Super), and DB-Kai-Super (Excluding GT). I would probably throw the movies in DBZ-GT's timeline, but not all of them will fit and make sense. How about your canons?
Note: Please don't bombard the thread with arguments about the word "Canon" and what was pinned by Toriyama. This is more about what you like and accept, and what you don't like, and exclude more than anything else.
Note: Please don't bombard the thread with arguments about the word "Canon" and what was pinned by Toriyama. This is more about what you like and accept, and what you don't like, and exclude more than anything else.
Re: What is your Franchise Head-Canon?
I consider all anime filler canon. I place Movies 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 13 in the main anime canon. (I pretend Gohan is older looking in Movies 6-7 to make them fit).
I consider the special with Tarble canon, then Super, as well as certain scenes from the new movies that weren't in Super like Pilaf explaining how they became kids.
I consider the special with Tarble canon, then Super, as well as certain scenes from the new movies that weren't in Super like Pilaf explaining how they became kids.
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Manga:
DB-/Jaco
DB volumes 1 - 42
2008 Jump Special
BOG
ROF
Universe 6
Kai:
DB-/Jaco
DB Anime
Kai
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
Super
Anime:
Bardock: Father of Goku
DB Anime
DBZ Movie 1
DBZ Anime
History of Trunks
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
GT
DB Online:
Bardock Father of Goku
DB volumes 1 - 42
DB-/Jaco
DB volumes 1 - 42
2008 Jump Special
BOG
ROF
Universe 6
Kai:
DB-/Jaco
DB Anime
Kai
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
Super
Anime:
Bardock: Father of Goku
DB Anime
DBZ Movie 1
DBZ Anime
History of Trunks
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
GT
DB Online:
Bardock Father of Goku
DB volumes 1 - 42
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Hey Hey get your own topics
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Apologies, I even commented on that one which makes it worse, shows the memory I havesoppa saia people wrote:Hey Hey get your own topics
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It's cool I was just joking. That one is outdated anyway. Carry onXeztin wrote:Apologies, I even commented on that one which makes it worse, shows the memory I havesoppa saia people wrote:Hey Hey get your own topics
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I don't think it's out dated it's barely 1 month but i myself don't care though.It's cool I was just joking. That one is outdated anyway. Carry on
The question has been asked by you 10000000000 times and we have become very efficient.
I don't care about non canon stuffs like game, guide book, movie, etc
Spare the trouble because GT is CANON
Be quick and be done with it
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I don't care about non canon stuffs like game, guide book, movie, etc
Spare the trouble because GT is CANON
Be quick and be done with it
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Bardock The Father Of Goku.
DB 1-29,34-41,43-78,84-126,133-148.
KAI 1-54.
The History Of Trunks.
Kai 55-100,102-164
Son Goku and his Friends Return.
Battle Of Gods.
Resurrection F.
Kai 166-167.
Whatever Toriyama says in interviews that doesn't contradict the above in a big way such as Buu's new origin.
Super's U6 arc will be placed after Resurrection F if it doesn't get a movie adaption.
I wouldn't put any of the original movies or OVA's on the list but they're still fun to watch (Bio-Broly is movie filler so it doesn't count as a true movie).
DB 1-29,34-41,43-78,84-126,133-148.
KAI 1-54.
The History Of Trunks.
Kai 55-100,102-164
Son Goku and his Friends Return.
Battle Of Gods.
Resurrection F.
Kai 166-167.
Whatever Toriyama says in interviews that doesn't contradict the above in a big way such as Buu's new origin.
Super's U6 arc will be placed after Resurrection F if it doesn't get a movie adaption.
I wouldn't put any of the original movies or OVA's on the list but they're still fun to watch (Bio-Broly is movie filler so it doesn't count as a true movie).
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Bardock Father of Goku, DB portion of the manga, DBZ Kai, Yo Son Goku, BoG and maybe U6 if its good is what I consider my main continuity.
Dead Zone, the Z anime and certain other movies that can fit like 5, 8, 13 along with GT are the anime continuity.
DB-, the entire DB manga and DBO are the manga continuity.
Dead Zone, the Z anime and certain other movies that can fit like 5, 8, 13 along with GT are the anime continuity.
DB-, the entire DB manga and DBO are the manga continuity.
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Jaco the Galactic Patrolman --> Dragon Ball Minus --> Episode of Bardock --> The manga proper up to chapter 517 --> Heya! Son Goku & Friends Return --> Battle of Gods --> Resurrection F --> Super's animated Universe 6 arc and beyond --> Chapters 518 and 519 of the original manga --> Neko Majin Z --> Dragon Ball Online
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Kanzenban (with maybe the exception of the epilogue), Jaco/DBM, Super Manga + Toriyama's ROF script (though if he has been more involved with the anime, then it would replace the manga), plus direct guidebook statements by AT as well as his his interviews (and possibly the DBO material if it isn't contradicted). Basically everything Toriyama has written/stated, with more recent material/interviews overwriting the old in case of a contradiction.
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The Kanzenban edition of the manga is my personal "canon". Just that.
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Jaco the Galactic Patrolman Prologue
Original Manga DB & Z Manga / Kai
Bardock Father of Goku / History of Trunks TV Specials
Wrath of the Dragon Right Before BoG Arc.
Toyotaro's Manga Super Adaption
SSJ3 Goku vs Beerus BoG Movie Version.
BoG's Fight Retcons.
Super's FNF retcons.
DB Online as Time-Skip ending.
Original Manga DB & Z Manga / Kai
Bardock Father of Goku / History of Trunks TV Specials
Wrath of the Dragon Right Before BoG Arc.
Toyotaro's Manga Super Adaption
SSJ3 Goku vs Beerus BoG Movie Version.
BoG's Fight Retcons.
Super's FNF retcons.
DB Online as Time-Skip ending.
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Manga canon
DB-
Jaco
Dr. Slump
DB
DBZ
Battle of Gods
Resurrection F
Neko Majin Z
DBO
Expanded Universe canon
Bardock: Father of Goku
Episode of Bardock
Jaco
Dr. Slump & Arale
DB anime
Dead Zone
DBZ anime
(Movies 2, 3, 4, & 5 taking place within the 3 years of training,
movie 7 & Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans taking place in the 10 day wait,
movie 9 taking place in 7 year gap,
movie 10 in the month before the tournament,
movie 11 taking place minutes after Goku goes back to the afterlife,
movie 13 not long after Buu's defeat,
Shin Budokai not long after that,
Shin Budokai 2 not long after that,
Goku & his friends return not long after that)
Super (unless it gets contradictory then the movies will replace it.)
Neko Majin Z
DBGT
Hero's Legacy
Ultimate Tenkaichi
DBXV
Kai canon
Path to Power
New Dr. Slump
Kai
Super
DB-
Jaco
Dr. Slump
DB
DBZ
Battle of Gods
Resurrection F
Neko Majin Z
DBO
Expanded Universe canon
Bardock: Father of Goku
Episode of Bardock
Jaco
Dr. Slump & Arale
DB anime
Dead Zone
DBZ anime
(Movies 2, 3, 4, & 5 taking place within the 3 years of training,
movie 7 & Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans taking place in the 10 day wait,
movie 9 taking place in 7 year gap,
movie 10 in the month before the tournament,
movie 11 taking place minutes after Goku goes back to the afterlife,
movie 13 not long after Buu's defeat,
Shin Budokai not long after that,
Shin Budokai 2 not long after that,
Goku & his friends return not long after that)
Super (unless it gets contradictory then the movies will replace it.)
Neko Majin Z
DBGT
Hero's Legacy
Ultimate Tenkaichi
DBXV
Kai canon
Path to Power
New Dr. Slump
Kai
Super
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First Bardock special; Jaco the Galactic Patrolman; manga chapters 1-517; Heya! Son Gokū and Friends Return!!; Battle of Gods; Revival of F; Super's Universe 6 arc; Dragon Ball chapters 518 and 519; possibly Neko Majin Z (I'm undecided); Dragon Ball Online
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My head canon is this
"DB-/Jaco
DB volumes 1 - 42
2008 Jump Special
BOG
ROF
Universe 6"
As this is what I believe actually is the canon. As an extra though, any explanations given in Super that weren't present in the movies is information I also see as being canon.
So if Super explains how Goku and Vegeta became SSJB or how Frieza got so powerful then I will take that as canon.
"DB-/Jaco
DB volumes 1 - 42
2008 Jump Special
BOG
ROF
Universe 6"
As this is what I believe actually is the canon. As an extra though, any explanations given in Super that weren't present in the movies is information I also see as being canon.
So if Super explains how Goku and Vegeta became SSJB or how Frieza got so powerful then I will take that as canon.
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Manga Canon:
-Dr.Slump
-Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
-Neko Majin Z
-Dragon Ball Minus
-Dragon Ball Manga
-Dragon Ball Z : Battle of Gods
-Dragon Ball Z : Revival of 'F'
-Universe 6 Saga
Anime Canon:
-Dragon Ball Anime
-All Dragon Ball Movies
-All Dragon Ball Z Specials
-All Dragon Ball Z Movies(exluding BOG and ROF)
-Dragon Ball GT
Modern Dragon Ball canon:
-Dr.Slump
-Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
-Neko Majin Z
-Dragon Ball Minus
-Dragon Ball Manga
-Dragon Ball Kai
-Yo!Son Goku and his Friends return
-Dragon Ball Super
Canon to all:
-Daizenshuu and other guidebooks(if it doesnt contradict anything)
-Akira Toriyama Interviews
Undecided:
-Dragon Ball Online
-Dr.Slump
-Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
-Neko Majin Z
-Dragon Ball Minus
-Dragon Ball Manga
-Dragon Ball Z : Battle of Gods
-Dragon Ball Z : Revival of 'F'
-Universe 6 Saga
Anime Canon:
-Dragon Ball Anime
-All Dragon Ball Movies
-All Dragon Ball Z Specials
-All Dragon Ball Z Movies(exluding BOG and ROF)
-Dragon Ball GT
Modern Dragon Ball canon:
-Dr.Slump
-Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
-Neko Majin Z
-Dragon Ball Minus
-Dragon Ball Manga
-Dragon Ball Kai
-Yo!Son Goku and his Friends return
-Dragon Ball Super
Canon to all:
-Daizenshuu and other guidebooks(if it doesnt contradict anything)
-Akira Toriyama Interviews
Undecided:
-Dragon Ball Online
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DB Minus
Jaco
DB Manga
Dragon Ball Super
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Jaco
DB Manga
Dragon Ball Super
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Everything from manga and anime except maybe Fusion Reborn.
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I think it would be impossible to have everything canon in one continuity or timeline. That's why I view DB Movies 1-4 and DBZ Movies 1-13 expect for Movie 9 and 13 to be alternate timelines. DBZ Movies 1-13 are like what if stories like DBZ Movie 7 can be a what if story if Cell never went back in time and Trunks found the blue paints to active the bombs inside #17 and #18. #17 & #18 where destroy early on which can explain why they where never reference again in the film and why Goku is seen shopping with Chi Chi at West City since the other Z fighters would be at Kami's lookout at this point. They would be worry that #16-18 and Cell are on the loose too.
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