Biggest exageration by fans?
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GT is no longer in the mainline canon, its now like the movies. You can consider it canon if you wish, but its more like an alternate universe.
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
precita wrote:GT is no longer in the mainline canon, its now like the movies. You can consider it canon if you wish, but its more like an alternate universe.
GT fits with Toei's ball and Z
super fits with kai
the 2 films fit with jaco and the manga... .
rows 2 and 3 can switch a little if you want but that makes the most sense. As super doesn't seam to be something that takes place in the same universe as garlic jr and cooler....
GT- main canon (anime canon)
kai and super-modern anime canon
manga-original canon.
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
Someone being out of character in DBS.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
It's easily "everyone but Goku (and sometimes Vegeta) was useless in Z!". Though that stereotype seems to be becoming true as of recently.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
*Posted in wrong thread, ignore, delete, what-have-you, sorry!*
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
@Gyt Kaliba I think you mean to post that in this thread:
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...Indeed I did. This is what I get for posting when someone's yakking at me, my bad.baneofdemon22 wrote:@Gyt Kaliba I think you mean to post that in this thread:
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
It's no problem! I just didn't want your post to go to waste!Gyt Kaliba wrote:...Indeed I did. This is what I get for posting when someone's yakking at me, my bad.baneofdemon22 wrote:@Gyt Kaliba I think you mean to post that in this thread:
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Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
That's your opinion, man, every fan has his own headcanon (or in your case multiple) but the vast majority of fans don't accept GT as canon.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:precita wrote:GT is no longer in the mainline canon, its now like the movies. You can consider it canon if you wish, but its more like an alternate universe.
GT fits with Toei's ball and Z
super fits with kai
the 2 films fit with jaco and the manga... .
rows 2 and 3 can switch a little if you want but that makes the most sense. As super doesn't seam to be something that takes place in the same universe as garlic jr and cooler....
GT- main canon (anime canon)
kai and super-modern anime canon
manga-original canon.
Re: Biggest exageration by fans?
The dub being 150% unwatchable.
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Kuririn Fan wrote:That's your opinion, man, every fan has his own headcanon (or in your case multiple) but the vast majority of fans don't accept GT as canon.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:precita wrote:GT is no longer in the mainline canon, its now like the movies. You can consider it canon if you wish, but its more like an alternate universe.
GT fits with Toei's ball and Z
super fits with kai
the 2 films fit with jaco and the manga... .
rows 2 and 3 can switch a little if you want but that makes the most sense. As super doesn't seam to be something that takes place in the same universe as garlic jr and cooler....
GT- main canon (anime canon)
kai and super-modern anime canon
manga-original canon.
the vast majority actually love GT,it's just online for the past few years it's the "cool" thing to bash GT. People feel some need to loo kcool and say GT isn't canon if you even mention ssj4. And the fact of the matter is canon=continuity according to the creators,so its not my opinion that GT is canon to ball and Z,its the sequel to em,unless toei says super is canon to Z and retcon GT,then GT stays canon. My opinion might be about super fitting in with kai,maybe the made it for the manga or not to connect with anything and be its own universe,but the manga being the original canon is a fact,it was the first one made.
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Ever since Super started airing, I feel like fans have forgotten just how bad GT is. I think they've been exaggerating its quality just a tiny bit.
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Definitely Broly's power and Kuririn "dying all the time".
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Doctor. wrote:Ever since Super started airing, I feel like fans have forgotten just how bad GT is. I think they've been exaggerating its quality just a tiny bit.
I think people exaggerate how bad GT is,it's got the least amount of plot holes,best pacing,and didn't spam the broken over used formula from Z.
I also think to many people are defending super no matter how much it messes up. People act like super is flawless or look for flaws with a much larger and older Z to justify super's faults. I mean its fine to like super but it IS the first DB series animated so.....OMFG the colors! I"M BLIND!
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It's got the most amount of plot holes considering the number of episodes it has and the WORST pacing, what are you talking about?
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To be fair counting GT Krillin died 4 times.ChahikoDBZ wrote:Definitely Broly's power and Kuririn "dying all the time".
There are very few fictional characters that have died 4 times or more.
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Four times out of 500+ episodes though, isn't really as high of a count as it sounds. Especially not when the main character of the entire franchise dies twice himself.
Well, that and his third time is when practically everyone dies, so can we really even fairly count that one against him?
Well, that and his third time is when practically everyone dies, so can we really even fairly count that one against him?
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Especially the start of GT. Wasn't there like a 5-10 episode gap of pure nothingness after Ledgic? I like GT okay, don't get me wrong, but outside of the main arc episodes, it was very boring to watch.Doctor. wrote:It's got the most amount of plot holes considering the number of episodes it has and the WORST pacing, what are you talking about?
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Oh that's true. I wasn't thinking about GT.The Monkey King wrote:To be fair counting GT Krillin died 4 times.ChahikoDBZ wrote:Definitely Broly's power and Kuririn "dying all the time".
There are very few fictional characters that have died 4 times or more.
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"Yamcha died more than two/three times, he died against Dr. Gero (as opposed to being badly injured)"
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