I have to agree. The Dragon Ball manga had its share of gore, don't get me wrong, but even moments like Vegeta exploding one of the Saibamn were tamer compared to these bloodbath explosions.
Dragon Ball Multiverse tends to go overboard on gore in general. Someone ought to make a "punched through the chest" counter for the series by now.
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Augenis wrote:The power level view into the series has trained a significant portion of the fan base into real life stereotypical members of the Freeza empire, where each and every individual is reduced to a floating number above their heads and any sudden changes to said number are met with shock and confusion.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I have to agree. The Dragon Ball manga had its share of gore, don't get me wrong, but even moments like Vegeta exploding one of the Saibamn were tamer compared to these bloodbath explosions.
Dragon Ball Multiverse tends to go overboard on gore in general. Someone ought to make a "punched through the chest" counter for the series by now.
What about Gohan beheading the Cell Jrs? Or Gero's rampage in the city?
Contrary to Multiverse, Toriyama's gore doesn't tend to be bloody. Yes, things explode and get cut in half at times, and there might be some guts tossed about in the process, but there's usually not literally a bloodbath splatter after the fact.
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I have to agree. The Dragon Ball manga had its share of gore, don't get me wrong, but even moments like Vegeta exploding one of the Saibamn were tamer compared to these bloodbath explosions.
Dragon Ball Multiverse tends to go overboard on gore in general. Someone ought to make a "punched through the chest" counter for the series by now.
Since DBM has not been more gory than the Dragon Ball manga, imo, I don't agree. Seriously, look at #20 squeezing that man's neck. Was that necessary...? Which was immediately followed by him punching through Yamcha's chest (which was something you criticized regarding DBM)... Or the way Buu killed those two gun maniacs, or those earthlings ripped to shreds outside Babidi's ship... DBM's gore has been coherent with gore used in various DB fights and it has even always happened in the context of the fights, not outside of it.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Contrary to Multiverse, Toriyama's gore doesn't tend to be bloody. Yes, things explode and get cut in half at times, and there might be some guts tossed about in the process, but there's usually not literally a bloodbath splatter after the fact.
To me that's just choice of style effect. Personally, I don't find a fighter making another's head explode less gory if it has less blood showed (especially when things like guts and eye balls are still shown flying off).
Funny how no one mentioned Goku and Raditz getting hit with Piccolo's attack and how bloody they made their injury in the process. That is...until Japan censored it in Kai.
Wow Cell is actually trying to resist. Guess he doesn't take too kindly to being someone's puppet. Also lol at Vegetto's remark. He isn't going to let this one go.
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Please stop Babidi quickly and end this sub plot Otherwise, i actually liked this fight, and I'm glad we are done with one of most boring characters in DB universe
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1. Cell falls victim because he is very evil.
2. Cell resists out of principle and is able to resist because he is stronger in ki and will than vegeta was (who could at least partially resist)
3. Babidi tells him "hey there's a power up in this, so just go with it"
What do you all think?
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga. Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
TobyS wrote:1. Cell falls victim because he is very evil.
2. Cell resists out of principle and is able to resist because he is stronger in ki and will than vegeta was (who could at least partially resist)
3. Babidi tells him "hey there's a power up in this, so just go with it"
What do you all think?
I'm gonna go with option 3.
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How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
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Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
TobyS wrote:1. Cell falls victim because he is very evil.
2. Cell resists out of principle and is able to resist because he is stronger in ki and will than vegeta was (who could at least partially resist)
3. Babidi tells him "hey there's a power up in this, so just go with it"
What do you all think?
I'm going with option 1.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Contrary to Multiverse, Toriyama's gore doesn't tend to be bloody. Yes, things explode and get cut in half at times, and there might be some guts tossed about in the process, but there's usually not literally a bloodbath splatter after the fact.
To me that's just choice of style effect. Personally, I don't find a fighter making another's head explode less gory if it has less blood showed (especially when things like guts and eye balls are still shown flying off).
Well, I do. Toriyama's version of gory events strike me more as a B movie production with a limited budget, simply trying to convey what happening without a 1:1 sense of realism. I prefer this, partially because it's cleaner and can help to prevent confusion at times of what's happening in a black and white manga.
That said, there's no need to white knight Multiverse's more realistic depiction or anything. I simply think it's not really necessary since Toriyama is already shown to do a perfectly fine job without it. So it comes off a tad forced and that trying to be "edgy" feeling, but I'm certainly not going to condemn them for it. If I wanted to do that, the series has worse problems to latch onto.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
Wow, what a lame fight... Can't believe Hirudegarn didn't transform at all, anyway why the F*** Cell needs wash up? Can't he just do it by himself? lol
And about Babidi Mind Control, I don't think Cell is going to resist.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
BlazingBarrrager wrote: Also lol at Vegetto's remark. He isn't going to let this one go.
Well he should have been investigated and disqualified, but...you know...plot. At least someone there is lampshading the cheating instead of it being ignored.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
That said, there's no need to white knight Multiverse's more realistic depiction or anything. I simply think it's not really necessary since Toriyama is already shown to do a perfectly fine job without it. So it comes off a tad forced and that trying to be "edgy" feeling, but I'm certainly not going to condemn them for it. If I wanted to do that, the series has worse problems to latch onto.
Who's white knighting? I simply said my opinion on the subject. I didn't even mentioned if I felt it was more realistic or not.
jcogginsa wrote:i still don't understand how Cell killed Tapion
Me either. I think that's what is wrong in this fight. The rest is all enjoyable. The lack of a second form is also a bummer but not understanding the end of the fight is worse.
My strongest guess would be he regenerated inside of Hildegarn - just like Hildegarn manifested inside of him - and then just did the same to Hildegarn: Destroy him with an attack that was able to slice Hildegarn from top to bottom. The question is: Where there some Cell's inside of Hildegarn's body? I mean, it is not hard with all the pieces, that they were at least on his body. Or he regenerated below Hildegarn. I don't know.
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Otherwise, i actually liked this fight, and I'm glad we are done with one of most boring characters in DB universe
