"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Kagari » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:26 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Somehow I get a feeling more joke material is coming my way from this little interaction.
Here's a basic translation:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Blade » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:29 pm

I love the colour cover page of the opposing rosters - it's like looking at two parties in a Dragon Quest game. I get how some people are a little narked that Toriyama's designs are sort of derivative of his earlier work - but this is Akira Toriyama, he's always been this way, it's part of the charm that makes his work so deeply distinctive.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:43 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Somehow I get a feeling more joke material is coming my way from this little interaction.
Here's a basic translation:
Ah more delicious mocking material. Also giving me the impression that he learns nothing in F.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by omaro34 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:45 pm

I'm so tempted to post this on my page but I know my fans wouldn't like spoilers.

That 5th fighter for U7 just looks off to me. But I'll hold my judgement until we learn more. I'm glad there's diversity on both teams. I would hate seeing 5 Saiyans vs 5 Saiyans
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Basaku » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:50 pm

omaro34 wrote:I'm so tempted to post this on my page but I know my fans wouldn't like spoilers.

That 5th fighter for U7 just looks off to me. But I'll hold my judgement until we learn more. I'm glad there's diversity on both teams. I would hate seeing 5 Saiyans vs 5 Saiyans
Diversity is great but really, couldn't U6 Saiyan at least get a different hairstyle? Couldn't U6 Freeza look more unique? Cooler looked like Freeza's race yet still unique. Purple Cell doesn't look particularly good either, too much of a mash-up of old design elements. And the Nipple guy will forever be known as the Nipple guy because that's the only memorable thing about his design :|

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by precita » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:53 pm

Anyone think the purple Cell guy looks exactly like that red Cell knock-off that Pikkon fought in the Otherworld tournament?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:55 pm

You're jumping the gun. Just wait until we get to know them better, I'm pretty sure the Freeza guy has a good reason to look just like him.
precita wrote:Anyone think the purple Cell guy looks exactly like that red Cell knock-off that Paikuhan fought in the Otherworld tournament?
Not exactly alike but I thought about that guy as well. And Paikuhan.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:56 pm

Basaku wrote:Diversity is great but really, couldn't U6 Saiyan at least get a different hairstyle? Couldn't U6 Freeza look more unique? Cooler looked like Freeza's race yet still unique. Purple Cell doesn't look particularly good either, too much of a mash-up of old design elements. And the Nipple guy will forever be known as the Nipple guy because that's the only memorable thing about his design :|
The Freeza guy is like that on purpose though, just like Champa and Vados. Goku and Vegeta comment on his appearance, so it's not like Toriyama is ripping off Freeza and calling him a completely different, unrelated character. Plus, he may look difference once/if he transforms.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by precita » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:00 pm

So they only went with one Saiyan warrior? From the way Champa talked I thought we would see more than one Saiyan.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:02 pm

I like that the Freeza race is pointed for looking like Freeza and he seems bothered/ashamed by it. U6 likely had their own and hes possibly a decent guy ashamed of Freeza giving his race a bad rep?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:03 pm

Maybe he's fused.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Basaku » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:04 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Basaku wrote:Diversity is great but really, couldn't U6 Saiyan at least get a different hairstyle? Couldn't U6 Freeza look more unique? Cooler looked like Freeza's race yet still unique. Purple Cell doesn't look particularly good either, too much of a mash-up of old design elements. And the Nipple guy will forever be known as the Nipple guy because that's the only memorable thing about his design :|
The Freeza guy is like that on purpose though, just like Champa and Vados. Goku and Vegeta comment on his appearance, so it's not like Toriyama is ripping off Freeza and calling him a completely different, unrelated character. Plus, he may look difference once/if he transforms.
You can't mistake Champa with Beerus. It's is an "easy/cheap" design trick just to make 1 fatter than the other? Yep but effective. They look instantly distinct. Same with gender swap between Whis and Vados. But then we have U6 Kaioshins that look different yet similar just enough.

U6 Freeza is not different enough. Not a good design. Nothing more to that, either there's something in it that makes it distinct enough to be instantly recognizable as different character or there isn't. Remember Goten note in EOZ manga chapter? "I gave adult Goten different haircut to make him distinct". Per Toriyama himself so yes, he does know it has to be done. He just doesn't apply it in all cases which is unfortunate.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:11 pm

Basaku wrote:U6 Freeza is not different enough. Not a good design. Nothing more to that, either there's something in it that makes it distinct enough to be instantly recognizable as different character or there isn't. Remember Goten note in EOZ manga chapter? "I gave adult Goten different haircut to make him distinct". Per Toriyama himself so yes, he does know it has to be done. He just doesn't apply it in all cases which is unfortunate.
He has a different color, he doesn't have lipstick and his shoulder plates seem to be organic, while Freeza's are merely armor.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:11 pm

so i think
goku vs Freeza guy
vegeta vs saiyan
piccolo vs purple guy
buu vs bear
new guy vs robot

i also think the robot is the strongest
and hopefully buu and piccolo have got a power up

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:13 pm

20 years later and he still want give us the female super saiyan?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Cetra » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:14 pm

The Freeza guy rocks his style better than Freeza himself, in my opinion. Well, I do not like Freeza's first form.

I am not following the manga, are there only 5 people per universe or like 1-2 others per universe to be revealed?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Kishido » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:15 pm

Disappointed...

A Frieza guy was so clear... But well I hoped for a more unique design. The Piccolo looking guy is the only one interesting design wise. And holy shit... Either this Tarble looking Saiyan is complete fodder and Champa was really fooled thinking that Vegeta/Goku are some fodder or dunno. So far I can't take him seriously or can you see him going Super Saiyan Blue? (And amd that no female Saiyan)

Same goes for the last guy of Beerus team. A random nobody who looks completely boring. But well at least he has a lot of hype.

And Gohan is leaving at earth to protect it from what? And even if... We are speaking about Gohan... I bet if someone tries to enter earth he will own Gohan to trigger the plot for the next arc.

Further more I'm disappointed that there is no hint of Piccolo having training or soemthing... Realy instead we see Goku and Vegeta again...

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Basaku » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:20 pm

Cetra wrote:The Freeza guy rocks his style better than Freeza himself, in my opinion. Well, I do not like Freeza's first form.

I am not following the manga, are there only 5 people per universe or like 1-2 others per universe to be revealed?
5 vs 5. There may be some changes/unexpected swaps/reveals during the course of the arc but for now that's all

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LuckyCat » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:22 pm

Imagine if Beerus' team loses, we'd be seeing truckloads of new characters in Earth's new universe.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:24 pm

How is possible Goku and Vegeta training in the RoSaT again? Any explanations?
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