Don't tell me I don't understand when I understand completely. Zamasu would have more chances of accomplishing his goal if he were to fuse with Black rather than be alone. Like I said, it's the reason he even agreed to be in cahoots in the first place.Cetra wrote:I am afraid you do not understand this from a psychological view because it is not "literally him".
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You seem to say that a lot and yet you use terms that go against the dynamics of personality. The "single Zamas" cannot achieve anything anymore if he ceases to exist by creating a new one. Do you understand that? If it is not revealed to be a collective consciousness, then they are dead by merging into one person that just thinks like them. And that is why I wanted to know how they are gonna show they fusion because that is a significant difference.ryou766 wrote: Don't tell me I don't understand when I understand completely.
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That single Zamasu does achieve something by being apart of a fusion that ultimately will have better chances of accomplishing his goal than he did as a single person.Cetra wrote:The "single Zamas" cannot achieve anything anymore if he ceases to exist by creating a new one. And that is why I wanted to know how they are gonna show they fusion because that is a significant difference.
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Only if he would still exist at that time and be aware and that is what we do not know.ryou766 wrote:That single Zamasu does achieve something by being apart of a fusion that ultimately will have better chances of accomplishing his goal than he did as a single person.Cetra wrote:The "single Zamas" cannot achieve anything anymore if he ceases to exist by creating a new one. And that is why I wanted to know how they are gonna show they fusion because that is a significant difference.
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
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If they used the Potara, which they most likely will, they will have one mind that shares the ideologies/memories of the two people that created the fusion. It isn't like Piccolo and Nail/Kami's fusion where they are able to choose who has the dominant mind.Cetra wrote:Only if he would still exist at that time and be aware and that is what we do not know.
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The Potara was more like it had different effects in the three cases we ever witnessed and if it really is one mind, then, just as I said, that one Zamas will be gone. You seem like it would be okay for you to vanish into a person that thinks like you.ryou766 wrote:If they used the Potara, which they most likely will, they will have one mind that shares the ideologies/memories of the two people that created the fusion. It isn't like Piccolo and Nail/Kami's fusion where they are able to choose who has the dominant mind.Cetra wrote:Only if he would still exist at that time and be aware and that is what we do not know.
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
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You don't get the point here. Zamasu will still be able to achieve his goals as he's partly responsible for the creation of the end result. And yes, I WOULD be fine with it; because it's because of me that the fusion even happened in the first place. Part of ME will exist in THAT person. Zamasu clearly has no problem with it, either.Cetra wrote:Zamas will be gone. You seem like it would be okay for you to vanish into a person that thinks like you.
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So you would give up your existence, your self-awareness for that? Wow.ryou766 wrote:You don't get the point here. Zamasu will still be able to achieve his goals as he's partly responsible for the creation of the end result. And yes, I WOULD be fine with it; because it's because of me that the fusion even happened in the first place. Part of ME will exist in THAT person. Zamasu clearly has no problem with it, either.Cetra wrote:Zamas will be gone. You seem like it would be okay for you to vanish into a person that thinks like you.
EDIT because of the second next post: That is not how psychology works. But if you want to be gone just to give birth to someone "like you who is not you" and lose your self-awareness, okay. Be aware, that is what we are. The ego is the instance that perceives reality. So you are gone completely with giving up this essence.
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Kai was just Z uncut. So keeping Z made sense.rs_chaosmaster wrote:Dragon Ball Kai being named Dragon Ball Z Kai. Toei and Funimation both being obsessed with that Z Branding. Was their any point to this 2nd part of the statement since you just agreed with what i said. LOLValerius Dover wrote:What's your basis for this guess? And regarding the release date, "International" doesn't necessarily mean US. Several other countries have already announced their dubs. I wouldn't expect any activity from Funimation anytime soon.
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You mean to reach new heights of power and become steps closer to achieving my ultimate goal like Zamasu? Yes.Cetra wrote:So you would give up your existence, your self-awareness for that? Wow.
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Gohan being a scholar, having a wife and child was not something that could prevent him to hear news from his family or pay a visit like he did in the last arcs, hell he could even know by Piccolo, his lack of interest in his friends safety is questionable, as for Goten even if he had to study for days, you could say Trunks wouldn't tell him what the heck is happening? "I met myself from the future, cool huh?" and that could engage in something. I know their absence are It is purposely not to wear Nozawa so much, I'm just saying they could elaborate more.alakazam^ wrote:Piccolo warned Trunks that Gohan wasn't a fighter and Trunks never acted like something was up. Gohan doesn't know he had to ask him anything and, for him, Trunks is just a guy he met years back and helped with the current threat, they aren't buddies.Noah wrote:No, actually they didn't give any, Gohan lack of interest in Future Trunks and Goten being absent are just assumptions made by us.
Chichi made Goten study because he's having a test.
Do you have a source on that?Hellspawn28 wrote:I doubt it. I remember it was Toei that pick "Dragon Ball Z Kai" for Kai outside of Japan, not Funimation.
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Goten pretty much knows what's going on though. Even if he did what would he do? Not even present trunks is going to the future.Noah wrote:Gohan being a scholar, having a wife and child was not something that could prevent him to hear news from his family or pay a visit like he did in the last arcs, hell he could even know by Piccolo, his lack of interest in his friends safety is questionable, as for Goten even if he had to study for days, you could say Trunks wouldn't tell him what the heck is happening? "I met myself from the future, cool huh?" and that could engage in something. I know their absence are It is purposely not to wear Nozawa so much, I'm just saying they could elaborate more.alakazam^ wrote:Piccolo warned Trunks that Gohan wasn't a fighter and Trunks never acted like something was up. Gohan doesn't know he had to ask him anything and, for him, Trunks is just a guy he met years back and helped with the current threat, they aren't buddies.Noah wrote:No, actually they didn't give any, Gohan lack of interest in Future Trunks and Goten being absent are just assumptions made by us.
Chichi made Goten study because he's having a test.
Do you have a source on that?Hellspawn28 wrote:I doubt it. I remember it was Toei that pick "Dragon Ball Z Kai" for Kai outside of Japan, not Funimation.
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The thing is, Gohan doesn't need to talk to his family every day and there's no reason to think they aren't safe. Remember that we're in day 2 since Trunks returned.Noah wrote:Gohan being a scholar, having a wife and child was not something that could prevent him to hear news from his family or pay a visit like he did in the last arcs, hell he could even know by Piccolo, his lack of interest in his friends safety is questionable, as for Goten even if he had to study for days, you could say Trunks wouldn't tell him what the heck is happening? "I met myself from the future, cool huh?" and that could engage in something. I know their absence are It is purposely not to wear Nozawa so much, I'm just saying they could elaborate more.
Maybe Trunks and Goten don't talk over the phone and Trunks has been too busy with trying to impress Mai or something.
I don't know if it's because of Nozawa but they don't need to use everyone all the time and they did explain anyway, you just weren't satisfied with it and were being unfair.
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Just don't call their merged form if they do have one, Zamasu Black Zamasu, and I think it'll be just fine.
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So Zamasu and black gonna merge.. holy shit... how they going kill them? if future zamasu has a immortal body?
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Maybe when they fuse the immortal state resets, as they make a new being.vashter wrote:So Zamasu and black gonna merge.. holy shit... how they going kill them? if future zamasu has a immortal body?
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I think Gosu could work out as a pretty cool name for this Goku Black / Zamasu fusion. "Go" means "enlightenment" in Japanese and "Su" can mean "long life" or "longetivity", which is fitting with how Zamasu wants to "enlighten" the world (sort of...), with Zamasu being immortal and with the Potaras' effect lasting forever.
Anyway, I'm totally fine with Merged Zamasu as a "name" for their fusion. Now what I'm really excited about is the actual design of the fusion, and to see if I actually got it right with my concept. x)
Anyway, I'm totally fine with Merged Zamasu as a "name" for their fusion. Now what I'm really excited about is the actual design of the fusion, and to see if I actually got it right with my concept. x)
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Don't say something like that, the episode hasn't even premiered yet. My hypothesis at the moment is that "Present" Zamasu is actually from the present of a hidden timeline.namekiansaiyan wrote:Present Zamasu being Black makes no sense and probably never will.
I'm all for being critical, but not by saying something won't make sense before we even know the details.
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My vote to BLAMASU,
It's silly enough. A Zamasu that... BLAM! you.
It's silly enough. A Zamasu that... BLAM! you.
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